General

@wiiman360: .....The point is that lower level equips, primarily Empress and even Fafnir are increased in quantity now. SW was affecting thier value way too much and was messing the equip progression curve. This was also talked about by Ruin3d in his thread.

@Eaglesmash56: I've had a friend do Lith 2 times per day and Rosa once as well, he's gotten at least 1 item over the past 2 days (he got 2 on the first) It might just be bad luck. Im not saying the drop rate is anywhere NEAR as good as it was before, just that its not as low as people are making it out to be =P

Edit: Another thing to bear in mind is that Cygnus and CRA bosses reset weekly (the new drop system will probably deflate the things they drop by the way) Whereas these bosses reset daily.

[quote=bluebomber24]@wiiman360: I can't argue with that.[/quote]

also, this new boss system doesnt affect SW at all since trades are solo-only...

[quote=Scenarios]You want to know what's wrong with cheap strong items? Imbalance of prices across all "end game" equips, causing deflation in Emp and RA along with others. Why would someone go for a full RA set when dirt cheap SW equips would have been littered all over the place?

There's no reason to complain about a nerfed drop rate that was originally way too high for equips of that strength. And yes, I am in fact calling out those who are qqing about a nerfed drop rate, it's not like they don't drop at [b]all[/b] anymore.[/quote]

Emp has been outdated for some time now (and is pretty necessary to getting decent SW gear, since they generally have more slots to work with and come with attack, plus you need to transpose if you want at least some tradability).
Full RA + nova/tyrant is better than the sw set, with investment into what makes them good (enhances).

The drop rate nerf to this extent just makes things worse for everyone involved. The rich make less money and introduce way less gear into the market (since the tougher bosses were the only ones with a half decent drop rate), the average folks need to shell out more to complete their set, and the less funded wont be able to afford the weapons at all. And I say "weapons" specifically because every piece of the armor was pretty damn rare even with the "introductory" boost.

@wiiman360: I can't argue with that.

[quote=bluebomber24]I know a few that got some equips. Also, some reasons potentially behind the nerf:

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2780320/2/45286125Reason_why_Sweet_was_Nerfed.html#45286125
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2780343/1/45286130new_boss_drop_system.html#45286130
http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1071393-Swee****er-drop-rate-change%26nxid%3D6

Ruin3d has stated that the drop rate wasn't dropped that much and also not alot of time has passed. I mean you should be making observations over a month's time.[/quote]

i didnt mind them lowering the drop rate of weapons but they should have kept the same drop rate for non-weapons. as ruin3d said some weapons were getting to cheap but non-weapons were 400-1b and 1.5b the gloves, and here is the reason:
lets say bosses had the same drop rate for every equip, then if a boss drops something it can drop 1 out of around 27 equips of which only 5 are non-weapons, so there is a lower chance to egt an equip. then a weapon is only needed for 1 job, but everyone of the 40-50 needs the same non-weapon, making it hard to get the full set and now with the drop-rate lowered.... gg

i just want them to increase the drop rate of non-weapons T-T

@DatNewNew: That's the communication person who communicates from the devs. He is not a moderator. If you think its a horrendous rate, oh well.

[quote=derpinDrk]and what's wrong with cheap strong items?[/quote]
You want to know what's wrong with cheap strong items? Imbalance of prices across all "end game" equips, causing deflation in Emp and RA along with others. Why would someone go for a full RA set when dirt cheap SW equips would have been littered all over the place?

There's no reason to complain about a nerfed drop rate that was originally way too high for equips of that strength. And yes, I am in fact calling out those who are qqing about a nerfed drop rate, it's not like they don't drop at [b]all[/b] anymore.

I like the exp

Unfortunately I didn't come to my senses and only did the quest line days before the nerf. Only managed to hunt grosso a few times with no success. Despite not finding anything and lowered drop rate, I still like the trips because it gives amazing exp on top of the daily RLH. I use 2x coupons on my trips and get around 5% each run, or 20% each day towards herb town.

[quote=lazershock]You could always go to Rein and Lith harbors, where the drop rate is actually still quite generous. Its really not that big of a difference compared to pre-nerf, Rosa and Herb Town rarely gave the stuff even then.[/quote]

Ive been doing 2 runs to Lith and 1 to Rosa each day after the nerf (6 lith runs 3 rosa runs) and still nothing as where before Id get 2 or three a day

[quote=wiiman360]because the 1st 15 days you couldnt face red grosso, which is the boss that dropped me around 12 weapons prenerf and after it i have killed him around 10 times and 4 of the dark blue livy and nothing.

and eveyone ive asked has got no equips at all post-nerf

@Scenarios : actually only weapons would've be cheap, equips would still be quite expensive[/quote]

I know a few that got some equips. Also, some reasons potentially behind the nerf:

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2780320/2/45286125Reason_why_Sweet_was_Nerfed.html#45286125
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2780343/1/45286130new_boss_drop_system.html#45286130
http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1071393-Swee****er-drop-rate-change%26nxid%3D6

Ruin3d has stated that the drop rate wasn't dropped that much and also not alot of time has passed. I mean you should be making observations over a month's time.

[quote=Kuraitou]How do you know the drop rate sucks when the changes have only been out for 2 days now? Most days before the nerf I didn't get anything either. In fact, the whole time Commerci was out I only got 3 or 4 equips - in 23 days. That's an average 6-7 days between drops. Of course it's not going to be better than that now.[/quote]

because the 1st 15 days you couldnt face red grosso, which is the boss that dropped me around 12 weapons prenerf and after it i have killed him around 10 times and 4 of the dark blue livy and nothing.

and eveyone ive asked has got no equips at all post-nerf

@Scenarios : actually only weapons would've be cheap, equips would still be quite expensive

[quote=Scenarios]This was bound to happen, all the better anyways, if drop rate hadn't been nerfed the market would've been overflowing with uber cheap SW equips.[/quote]

and what's wrong with cheap strong items?

This was bound to happen, all the better anyways, if drop rate hadn't been nerfed the market would've been overflowing with uber cheap SW equips.

How do you know the drop rate sucks when the changes have only been out for 2 days now? Most days before the nerf I didn't get anything either. In fact, the whole time Commerci was out I only got 3 or 4 equips - in 23 days. That's an average 6-7 days between drops. Of course it's not going to be better than that now.

You could always go to Rein and Lith harbors, where the drop rate is actually still quite generous. Its really not that big of a difference compared to pre-nerf, Rosa and Herb Town rarely gave the stuff even then.

I was just doing it for the EXP and Denaros anyway.

Never found a single SW item before the drop rate change. Not going to try now.

[quote=Yvraine]When did the drop happen? Because I've done 60+ voyages in Rosa and have yet to get a single SW drop.[/quote]

January 8th.

[quote=FireBreather]Why do you complain at free equips?[/quote]

nothing is free.

[quote=FireBreather]Why do you complain at free equips?[/quote]
It takes time to get the equips, alot of time. Time = money, in fact time>money.
If the chances were good i'd gamble my time since I would already be playing, but now forget about it.

damn, life is so hard nowadays