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Compensation for Connection issues over holiday

Artasi has comfirmed that we will be receiving compensation for the spotty connectivity over the holiday break. There is currently a poll on the Nexon forums as to what we will receive. The thread is located [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1356405%26p%3D11313144%26viewfull%3D1%23post11313144]here[/url]. If you highly prefer one package over the others, please take the time to log onto the forums to vote. The options are as follows:

Option 1: (1-Day 2x EXP Special Coupon, 7 Day Granny's Food Stand, 7 Day Store Remote Controller, 30 Day Maple Teleport Rock, 30 Day Traveling Merchant, 30 Day Portable Storage)

Option 2: (1-Day 2x EXP Special Coupon, 1-Day 2x Drop Special Coupon, 90 Day Duration Water of Life, 30 Day Maple Teleport Rock, 30 Day Traveling Merchant, 30 Day Portable Storage)

Option 3: (EXP Booster - 11 Pack (4 Hours), 30 Day Safety Gem, 30 Day Respawn Pass, 30 Day Maple Teleport Rock, 30 Day Traveling Merchant, 30 Day Portable Storage)

January 8, 2015

52 Comments • Newest first

nhan1st

[quote=jonathansayshi]@nhan1st: Yeah, the majority of the CRA bossers in Bera are greedy and hog the loot for themselves. There are a handful of people who don't hog it and let looters keep what they get, but most still take what they can get.[/quote]

I guess it's just a population difference then. Here pretty much everyone who can afford it already has their ra set and all we do is try to perfect it so the sales of boss drop isn't a lot. Maybe there's many new players needing ra sets in bera?

Reply January 9, 2015
TrumanB

I vote #1. I honestly don't care about grinding and lvling. I just want to sell my old equips and items.
@Neospod As for the merchant store... It's not going mess up the economy. 7 days does barely any harm. If you're talking about competition, supply and demand will take place... after the 7 days the supplies will be lower, and prices would most likely rise again. If anything, this helps other players who don't buy nx be able to make some mesos. And people looking to buy certain things will be able to get it. I remember there used to be people in ch 1 and all the way to the last channel (19) in fm 1. (People even used to sell stuff in ch 2 fm entrance). If people are selling things for low prices, then w/e... let them, after the 7 days people can merch from that. <That's basically what's happening to the winter style boxes... They were super expensive, then fell down, and now it's starting to stablize again> one again, supply and demand. This is basically everyone, people and buy/ sell cheap things for a short time.

Reply January 9, 2015
jonathansayshi

@nhan1st: Yeah, the majority of the CRA bossers in Bera are greedy and hog the loot for themselves. There are a handful of people who don't hog it and let looters keep what they get, but most still take what they can get.

Reply January 9, 2015
Dorks

If they're going to give compensation, at least do it so people who suffered from their various issues can be kind of happy.

Reply January 9, 2015
nhan1st

[quote=jonathansayshi]@nhan1st: The people in my server who do CRA do get more than 3b. Let's say with just CRA, Warrior Helms and Thief Helms are 300-400m each, and people usually get multiple because they take the drops from their looters. So 6 people in party, that's at least 3.6b right there and that was just one of the CRA bosses. If you want to get into prices with pants, okay sure. 400-500m per warrior and thief pants, so that's another 4.8b. So that's 8.4b. Let's subtract 3 people that get pants & helms. So subtract 2.1b? That's still 6.3b. So 6.3b from just doing Chaos Queen and Chaos Pierre. Do you want to throw in Chaos Vellum? And okay, if you want to accuse Chinese meso farming sites wherever you're getting that information from, fine by me.[/quote]

I see your point, since tops are dirt cheap here in bellonova. However, this assuming looters gives up the drop. I was thinking more of the line of a person killing the boss and only selling his drop since my ally works by looters only pay 50% of drops and not 100%.

Reply January 9, 2015
jonathansayshi

@nhan1st: The people in my server who do CRA do get more than 3b. Let's say with just CRA, Warrior Helms and Thief Helms are 300-400m each, and people usually get multiple because they take the drops from their looters. So 6 people in party, that's at least 3.6b right there and that was just one of the CRA bosses. If you want to get into prices with pants, okay sure. 400-500m per warrior and thief pants, so that's another 4.8b. So that's 8.4b. Let's subtract 3 people that get pants & helms. So subtract 2.1b? That's still 6.3b. So 6.3b from just doing Chaos Queen and Chaos Pierre. Do you want to throw in Chaos Vellum? And okay, if you want to accuse Chinese meso farming sites wherever you're getting that information from, fine by me.

Reply January 9, 2015
nhan1st

[quote=jonathansayshi]@nhan1st: That's pretty racist, but okay. I doubt botters make 15b a week anymore due to the fact that elite bosses got a pretty hard nerf in terms of what comes out of the chests. Clean slates are a lot more rare now, although I could be wrong. I also know that elite bosses spawn a lot less now. And I don't know what the prices are like in Nova, but the bossers in Bera make waaaaay more than 3b a week. I'm speaking from experience before you judge me by the way my avatar looks.[/quote]

I don't know where you get the racist comment from since nowhere was I discriminating against race, but I'll let it slide. If you can post up the prices for boss weekly sales, I can post up stats for chinese mesos farmers/botters. In mesos alone, a legit person can grind 1.5m or so in an hour with a pet at high level maps. A botter would be using illegit method which would make it more efficient for him. If you walked into a map with a bw botter you know what I mean so I'll bump it to 2m an hour. Assuming in a day 22hours is botting and 2 hours are from reconnecting, that's 44m a day in mesos alone. Botters usually run 6-10 maple at a time, so at minimum they're making 264m a day and 1.85b a week not including drops. Now if we're talking about elite bosses farming, a legit pair can farm one elite boss in an hour with one person as kishin, and one person grinding. A botter can use a kishin mule with a bot per ch netting them drops of 100m worth an hour whether slates, epic pot scrolls, cubes, cubic/chaos blades, or spell traces. in 22 hours, thats' 2.2b and a week is 14.4b.
FYI, calling mesos farmers chinese isn't racist because the largest and majority of illegit mesos farming sites are run by Chinese and I'm have nothing against them anyways.

Reply January 9, 2015
jonathansayshi

@nhan1st: That's pretty racist, but okay. I doubt botters make 15b a week anymore due to the fact that elite bosses got a pretty hard nerf in terms of what comes out of the chests. Clean slates are a lot more rare now, although I could be wrong. I also know that elite bosses spawn a lot less now. And I don't know what the prices are like in Nova, but the bossers in Bera make waaaaay more than 3b a week. I'm speaking from experience before you judge me by the way my avatar looks.

Reply January 9, 2015
nhan1st

[quote=jonathansayshi]Aside from the debate of whether the botters or the funded control the market, there aren't many "idiots" that are refusing to listen to common sense, like you claim. In practically all of the comments you see on this thread, most people are voting for what they think is best for themselves, which is what @nhan1st is trying to say. Besides voting for what YOU most need, he states the abilities and the requirements to maintain a permit and/or shop in the free market.

There isn't a RIGHT option to choose, just a favorable option towards the player base. So if you're claiming that people who don't choose option 1 lack common sense, I'm afraid I disagree. And to try to settle your argument about who controls the free market: While it's true that hackers/dupers/botters may hold clean slates, spell traces, duped nebs, no boom aees, they don't control the market as much as the funded players do. Depending on the amount of funded players in your world that can actually do CRA/Hard Magnus/Gollux, they have more influence over the market than hackers/dupers/botters do, in my opinion. Potentially, duped nebs or no boom aee's would be completely useless if you don't have the equips itself to use them on, which is where the funded players come in. You don't see dupers or botters doing CRA/Hard Magnus/Hell Gollux. I guess you could say the funded and the illegitimates influence different part of the economies, but it's not solely illegitimate players or solely funded players that control the economy.[/quote]

I never once said anyone who didn't choose option one lack common sense. I said anyone who thinks by having the mass getting free 7 day hired merchant will ruin the economy lacks common sense. I agreed that funded players control the boss drop prices in the economy, but that's only because botters make more profit with the smaller drops. Funded players can only do major bosses like once a week which net them 3b max in drops. Botters in a week can farm about 350 clean slates alone netting them 15b. at least. If bossing made more profit than botting, all the chinese mesos farmers would definitely be controlling the boss drop prices too.

Reply January 9, 2015
jonathansayshi

[quote=nhan1st]You basically said what I wanted to say but can't be bothered because idiots would refuse to listen to common sense. I chose 1 because I do not have the range to boss and is currently using a permit because it's the most cost effective. Not to mention once noobs mass flux the market with spell traces/slates/etc..., this gives me a chance to hoard all of it and sell it back at 50%+ profit. I'm a merchant at heart and it's crazy for me to ignore all that money.[/quote]

Aside from the debate of whether the botters or the funded control the market, there aren't many "idiots" that are refusing to listen to common sense, like you claim. In practically all of the comments you see on this thread, most people are voting for what they think is best for themselves, which is what @nhan1st is trying to say. Besides voting for what YOU most need, he states the abilities and the requirements to maintain a permit and/or shop in the free market.

There isn't a RIGHT option to choose, just a favorable option towards the player base. So if you're claiming that people who don't choose option 1 lack common sense, I'm afraid I disagree. And to try to settle your argument about who controls the free market: While it's true that hackers/dupers/botters may hold clean slates, spell traces, duped nebs, no boom aees, they don't control the market as much as the funded players do. Depending on the amount of funded players in your world that can actually do CRA/Hard Magnus/Gollux, they have more influence over the market than hackers/dupers/botters do, in my opinion. Potentially, duped nebs or no boom aee's would be completely useless if you don't have the equips itself to use them on, which is where the funded players come in. You don't see dupers or botters doing CRA/Hard Magnus/Hell Gollux. I guess you could say the funded and the illegitimates influence different part of the economies, but it's not solely illegitimate players or solely funded players that control the economy.

Reply January 8, 2015
ChopSuey

At heart I rather choose option 3, but looking at polls it's about even for option 1 and 3 and I can see why. Unfortunately I would not able to train for 24 hours straight (unless I'm not a human) and I already have granny store making option 1 useless for me.

Just remember these are compensations, not just a "free stuff". Ask yourself, when Nexon were DDoSed do you lose more from training or selling your items?

Reply January 8, 2015
CherryTigers

[quote=Neospod]What do the botters really control? they only control mesos rates and elite boss drops. Do they control price of empress/cra/tyrants/gollux/godly gears? Botters don't play maplestory as a game they play maplestory as a business [/quote]

Meso rates have a direct correlation to all the prices of everything. Hackers/botters dictate the purchasing power of mesos, hence, they control the economy.

Every MMORPG has hackers. Nexon does not per say eliminate hackers. It would be impossible. Instead, game economists have found ways to co-exist with hackers. There are meso sinks. Often times, the best ways to control the meso market is by destroying capital which creates a deflationary economy, which reverses the inflation we are having. This is what Starforce has done for us.

Reply January 8, 2015
nhan1st

[quote=David0696]Just to keep my thoughts on the official forms and here consistent...
I posted this on the official forums.

I voted for option 3. As the poll shows, most of the debate is over option 1 and option 3.

Option 1: (1-Day 2x EXP Special Coupon, 7 Day Granny's Food Stand, 7 Day Store Remote Controller, 30 Day Maple Teleport Rock, 30 Day Traveling Merchant, 30 Day Portable Storage)
Option 3: (EXP Booster - 11 Pack (4 Hours), 30 Day Safety Gem, 30 Day Respawn Pass, 30 Day Maple Teleport Rock, 30 Day Traveling Merchant, 30 Day Portable Storage)

What is different?
Option 1: (1-Day 2x EXP Special Coupon, 7 Day Granny's Food Stand, 7 Day Store Remote Controller
Option 3: (EXP Booster - 11 Pack (4 Hours), 30 Day Safety Gem, 30 Day Respawn Pass

I voted for what helps ME the most. I do not have many things to sell so I would not care to get a shop right now. It would not help me very much. However, the alternative would be amazing for me. I always lose EXP at bosses such as Gollux because of the difficulty. Dying once at level 210 is bothersome. It may take away a day's worth of EXP I had acquired. Over time, I never go above 20% EXP because I lose more EXP than what I gain from bossing. I do not train on mobs so that is out of the question. However, since I get almost all of my EXP from bosses, I would be able to pinpoint exactly when I would want to use these coupons. That would make the most use of them.

Some persons are voting based on what is best for the market. I people should vote for what is best for themselves. There is an argument floating around both on here and BasilMarket about thousands of players opening their shops in the Free Market and how it will effect the economy. To tackle this argument, it would be important to point out several things.

What we have in the game is called a Free Market but it is not really one. A free market would have no barriers to enter the market. In MapleStory, users have to purchase a shop with NX. Having reward points only gives two days worth of shop time, closer to four if reset right before it expires. To keep a store running, there must be some sort of incentive, obviously monetary. Items in the shop would have to be worth enough to create a profit margin. Otherwise, the seller would lose out on resources. When shops can be opened by anyone and everyone, items that were previously not worth selling will be introduced to the market. New items that will be brought to the market will not really have that much demand. If they did, they would have been in stores already. Prices will drop for those items that will already have been in shops such as Tyrant equipment, Chaos Root Abyss set pieces, and Gollux equipment.

This is just my thought on the matter. If people can kill Hard Magnus, Chaos Root Abyss bosses, and Hell mode Gollux, and do not have the resources to open a shop, something is wrong. Compared to the resources needed to kill these bosses, the upkeep of a store is minuscule. Prices of these equipment will not drop drastically in my opinion as everyone is saying. Tyrant capes cannot really drop due to the "resources" needed to trade it, a Platinum Scissor of Karma. Boots and belts still will sell for max mesos. The price of that will not change just because of shop availability. Only the price of inferior goods will decrease significantly, and I do not care for them.[/quote]

You basically said what I wanted to say but can't be bothered because idiots would refuse to listen to common sense. I chose 1 because I do not have the range to boss and is currently using a permit because it's the most cost effective. Not to mention once noobs mass flux the market with spell traces/slates/etc..., this gives me a chance to hoard all of it and sell it back at 50%+ profit. I'm a merchant at heart and it's crazy for me to ignore all that money.

Reply January 8, 2015
David0696

Just to keep my thoughts on the official forms and here consistent...
I posted this on the official forums.

I voted for option 3. As the poll shows, most of the debate is over option 1 and option 3.

Option 1: (1-Day 2x EXP Special Coupon, 7 Day Granny's Food Stand, 7 Day Store Remote Controller, 30 Day Maple Teleport Rock, 30 Day Traveling Merchant, 30 Day Portable Storage)
Option 3: (EXP Booster - 11 Pack (4 Hours), 30 Day Safety Gem, 30 Day Respawn Pass, 30 Day Maple Teleport Rock, 30 Day Traveling Merchant, 30 Day Portable Storage)

What is different?
Option 1: (1-Day 2x EXP Special Coupon, 7 Day Granny's Food Stand, 7 Day Store Remote Controller
Option 3: (EXP Booster - 11 Pack (4 Hours), 30 Day Safety Gem, 30 Day Respawn Pass

I voted for what helps ME the most. I do not have many things to sell so I would not care to get a shop right now. It would not help me very much. However, the alternative would be amazing for me. I always lose EXP at bosses such as Gollux because of the difficulty. Dying once at level 210 is bothersome. It may take away a day's worth of EXP I had acquired. Over time, I never go above 20% EXP because I lose more EXP than what I gain from bossing. I do not train on mobs so that is out of the question. However, since I get almost all of my EXP from bosses, I would be able to pinpoint exactly when I would want to use these coupons. That would make the most use of them.

Some persons are voting based on what is best for the market. I people should vote for what is best for themselves. There is an argument floating around both on here and BasilMarket about thousands of players opening their shops in the Free Market and how it will effect the economy. To tackle this argument, it would be important to point out several things.

What we have in the game is called a Free Market but it is not really one. A free market would have no barriers to enter the market. In MapleStory, users have to purchase a shop with NX. Having reward points only gives two days worth of shop time, closer to four if reset right before it expires. To keep a store running, there must be some sort of incentive, obviously monetary. Items in the shop would have to be worth enough to create a profit margin. Otherwise, the seller would lose out on resources. When shops can be opened by anyone and everyone, items that were previously not worth selling will be introduced to the market. New items that will be brought to the market will not really have that much demand. If they did, they would have been in stores already. Prices will drop for those items that will already have been in shops such as Tyrant equipment, Chaos Root Abyss set pieces, and Gollux equipment.

This is just my thought on the matter. If people can kill Hard Magnus, Chaos Root Abyss bosses, and Hell mode Gollux, and do not have the resources to open a shop, something is wrong. Compared to the resources needed to kill these bosses, the upkeep of a store is minuscule. Prices of these equipment will not drop drastically in my opinion as everyone is saying. Tyrant capes cannot really drop due to the "resources" needed to trade it, a Platinum Scissor of Karma. Boots and belts still will sell for max mesos. The price of that will not change just because of shop availability. Only the price of inferior goods will decrease significantly, and I do not care for them.

Reply January 8, 2015
jonathansayshi

[quote=Rachelll]You did your math sooo wrong....

44 hours of 1.5x doesn't beat 24 hours of 2x.

Do the math:
44 hours of 1.5x vs 24 hours of 2x+20 hours of 1x (for a total of 44 hours)
44 hours of 1.5x gives you the same amount of exp as 66 hours of 1x
24 hours of 2x gives you the same amount of exp as 48 hours of 1x but since you trained 20 hours more for the previous options, add 20 hours of 1x here for a total of 68 hours of 1x.

68>66.
The 24 hours of 2x (assuming full use) is more efficient and "better" than the 44 hours of 1.5x[/quote]

Have fun training 24 hours nonstop. Also, keep in mind I'm taking 2x events into consideration. And unless they're letting us use the 24 hour 2x coupon DURING a 2x event, then the 44 hours of 1.5x is still better. Even if they do let us use the 24 hour 2x during an event, you'd only be training under 4x for.. roughly 8 of those hours, whereas you can save your 1.5x coupons for any 2x event. So, yes, mathematically, 24 hours of 2x is better, but ideally, and more EFFICIENTLY as you so bluntly stated, 44 hours of 1.5x is still better.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
LittleTLK

[quote=Rachelll]You did your math sooo wrong....

44 hours of 1.5x doesn't beat 24 hours of 2x.

Do the math:
44 hours of 1.5x vs 24 hours of 2x+20 hours of 1x (for a total of 44 hours)
44 hours of 1.5x gives you the same amount of exp as 66 hours of 1x
24 hours of 2x gives you the same amount of exp as 48 hours of 1x but since you trained 20 hours more for the previous options, add 20 hours of 1x here for a total of 68 hours of 1x.

68>66.
The 24 hours of 2x (assuming full use) is more efficient and "better" than the 44 hours of 1.5x[/quote]

Except few people are able to train for 24 hours straight.
Theoretically, the 2x is better, but in practice, the 1.5x coupons are better.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
Rachelll

[quote=jonathansayshi]Just to clear things up: For people who want EXP, keep in mind that Option 1 is 24 hours of 2x, while Option 3 is 44 hours of 1.5x. Hopefully you can do the math and realize that Option 3 is longer. On another note, Artasi stated that the 1.5x boxes DON'T EXPIRE. That means you can use the 1.5x ANYTIME, rather than be restricted by a 24 hour 2x coupon. And as Artasi said, you can also stack it with 2x coupons you buy from the cash shop, unlike the 24 hour 2x coupon from Option 1. If, however, you're looking at the 7 day granny shop, those of you in more packed servers, that just means you're going to be stuck with hordes of people hogging fm spots and complaining about how full the fm is. For those of you who think people that are 200+ don't train as much, well, you're very wrong. Ultimately I think Option 3 is best.[/quote]

You did your math sooo wrong....

44 hours of 1.5x doesn't beat 24 hours of 2x.

Do the math:
44 hours of 1.5x vs 24 hours of 2x+20 hours of 1x (for a total of 44 hours)
44 hours of 1.5x gives you the same amount of exp as 66 hours of 1x
24 hours of 2x gives you the same amount of exp as 48 hours of 1x but since you trained 20 hours more for the previous options, add 20 hours of 1x here for a total of 68 hours of 1x.

68>66.
The 24 hours of 2x (assuming full use) is more efficient and "better" than the 44 hours of 1.5x

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
itoldyounoob

The 7 day Granny really shoots the people who bought a 30 day recently in the foot.
Other than that, It's pretty nice. I'd be happy regardless with what I get, but option 3 looks best to me.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
LittleTLK

[quote=David0696]Option 3 is way better for people who boss. A 30 day Respawn Pass is unbelievably amazing. I would be maybe level 213 or 214 by now if I never lost EXP from bosses such as Gollux. In 30 days, I think I would be able to level just because I would not be losing exp. I will not have to worry about people dying in bosses such as Empress who came because they wanted the instanced shards.

Having 7 day shops will kill prices, especially with real-time price tracking services provided by owls. Prices will be cheaper, for sure. Then that just reduces incentive to open a shop to sell certain items for those who can normally open a shop. I am thinking that the new items that will be brought to the market will not really have that much demand. If they did, they would have been in stores already.[/quote]

I'd be cPBing errday for exp if I got #3.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
David0696

Option 3 is way better for people who boss. A 30 day Respawn Pass is unbelievably amazing. I would be maybe level 213 or 214 by now if I never lost EXP from bosses such as Gollux. In 30 days, I think I would be able to level just because I would not be losing exp. I will not have to worry about people dying in bosses such as Empress who came because they wanted the instanced shards.

Having 7 day shops will kill prices, especially with real-time price tracking services provided by owls. Prices will be cheaper, for sure. Then that just reduces incentive to open a shop to sell certain items for those who can normally open a shop. I am thinking that the new items that will be brought to the market will not really have that much demand. If they did, they would have been in stores already.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
jonathansayshi

Just to clear things up: For people who want EXP, keep in mind that Option 1 is 24 hours of 2x, while Option 3 is 44 hours of 1.5x. Hopefully you can do the math and realize that Option 3 is longer. On another note, Artasi stated that the 1.5x boxes DON'T EXPIRE. That means you can use the 1.5x ANYTIME, rather than be restricted by a 24 hour 2x coupon. And as Artasi said, you can also stack it with 2x coupons you buy from the cash shop, unlike the 24 hour 2x coupon from Option 1. If, however, you're looking at the 7 day granny shop, those of you in more packed servers, that just means you're going to be stuck with hordes of people hogging fm spots and complaining about how full the fm is. For those of you who think people that are 200+ don't train as much, well, you're very wrong. Ultimately I think Option 3 is best.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
TrumanB

[quote=Neospod]@nhan1st: congratz you got me there, and how much of those duped scrolls and nebs survived and if they're duped and there are so many why are no boom 3bil and 25% boss nebs 5bil?[/quote]

Uh thousands. That's cause people got access to them when they were 50 mil, it's obvious people who go crazy stocking up while they're available. And since the big dupe thing is over, prices have risen... I have a ton of all stat nebs on noob items.

@jonathansayshi Most botters have shops anyways... what's the point of botting if they can't sell it.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
jonathansayshi

[quote=nhan1st]And hence my point is proven. Why are you afraid of other people undercutting when only the funded have access to the godly gears and the unfunded doesn't. Your argument is full of holes, not to mention the only reason why funded players have access to godly gears is because they have access to those items sold by botters, duped equips from hackers. Where did all those %boss nebs come from? Where did all those no boom aee come from? The only thing funded people have over hackers and botters are the cubing which honestly doesn't compare to the value of hundreds of duped scrolls and nebs.

Edit: I'm done arguing with you, I'm just going to use all my mules to vote for option 1 [/quote]

SoOoOo, with that knowledge, you think Option 1 is better, where bots will now get 7 day shops? Okay.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
xylyls

[quote=KamikazeDes]I want to say "Oh look at all the crap, cause thats what it is," but I don't want to spit a gift horse in the mouth.
But seriously, look at all this crap, cause thats what it is.[/quote]

Hey I know you

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
LittleTLK

Respawn pass? 30 day?
You realize that's 30K NX right there, right?
Hell yeah, give me that. It's so awesome for Empress/cPB.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
SadVirgin

I don't get the big deal. If you're a merchant worried about undercutting, just take that as an advantage and go for a buying spree that week instead of selling, then you have larger monopoly when the free shops expire and everyone will be forced to buy from you at a greater price. If unfunded people make money in the process then what's the harm in that, they might become your customers later too if you're selling something they want. Only now they have the funds to buy it. Money circulates.
If other people buy up cheap rare items before you do then that's your problem. Need to get your game on.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
nhan1st

[quote=Neospod]What do the botters really control? they only control mesos rates and elite boss drops. Do they control price of empress/cra/tyrants/gollux/godly gears? Botters don't play maplestory as a game they play maplestory as a business [/quote]

And hence my point is proven. Why are you afraid of other people undercutting when only the funded have access to the godly gears and the unfunded doesn't. Your argument is full of holes, not to mention the only reason why funded players have access to godly gears is because they have access to those items sold by botters, duped equips from hackers. Where did all those %boss nebs come from? Where did all those no boom aee come from? The only thing funded people have over hackers and botters are the cubing which honestly doesn't compare to the value of hundreds of duped scrolls and nebs.

Edit: I'm done arguing with you, I'm just going to use all my mules to vote for option 1

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
nhan1st

[quote=Neospod]Great assumption man if you're basing me off my basil avatar then you're sadly mistaken.
What about all the people stocking up for months css in bundles of hunders this event will ruining there hard work and patience the market's going to take a long time to recover from this 7 days.
That's what i said in my op that 1 day is good but 7 days is broken[/quote]

You don't understand this game economy don't you? It's not controlled by normal people, it's controlled by botters. If normal people stock up with hundreds, botters would already have thousands. Any cheap slates would be bought immediately and prices will get back to normal once the shop expires. I'm basing my assumption on your basil character, I'm basing it on your lack of economical knowledge. @CherryTigers please settle this, I don't mind if he says I'm wrong

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
LiftConcept

[quote=Neospod]Great assumption man if you're basing me off my basil avatar then you're sadly mistaken.
What about all the people stocking up for months css in bundles of hunders this event will ruining there hard work and patience the market's going to take a long time to recover from this 7 days.
That's what i said in my op that 1 day is good but 7 days is broken[/quote]

This is good for the economy....Stop now

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
XcoldshadowX

It might not matter which option you choose after all. "Vote Early and Often" seems to apply to this poll; many of the voting accs were signed up to the forums today. The people with the most hottime mules will control what we get.

Reply January 8, 2015 - edited
nhan1st

[quote=Neospod]@MrSinDeath19: This is bull unless you work your but off daily then that's fair but people who paid real life money should get an advantage over people who spent no money[/quote]

Please, funded people don't control the economy, hackers and botters do. The only thing people funded get over unfunded is the ability to boss and this only pay to win thing already screwed up the game after big bang with the release of cubes. I spent over hundreds of dollars on maple cosmetics and do I complain how cash clothes/hair/face doesn't give a benefit over regular clothes? No. Stop being a whiny kid because people get seven days of fairness. I don't care if noobs lowball. This means I get 7 days to stock up on cheap items before the shop expires and resell it for higher once it's gone. I bet you're not even rich enough to do that "mr funded".

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LiftConcept

[quote=MrSinDeath19]Good. The funded players had way too much of a power curve. If this closes the gap then great. Plus the more people strong enough to take on end-game bosses, then more CRA and gollux and even tyrant gear will be available thus lowering the price. Sure it sucks for the highest players, and if this were the real world it would suck economically. But this is a game, and theres no reason why everyone shouldn't be able to get at least close to "powerful"[/quote]

Uhm I don't think thats how it's going to work but okay..

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MrSinDeath19

[quote=Neospod]Maybe for the less funded people but for the more funded people it will ruin everything, if it was 1 day i would love this but 7 days no?
Most unfunded players will make everything beyond cheap since they don't know price or they want quick mesos, let's say css cost 50mil atm it will cost 20mil since everyone is going to undercut and since free owls and mapleFN everyone can search what items they want and people can be anywhere and just put stuff in there granny shop, man i hope nexon realise what they're doing [/quote]

Good. The funded players had way too much of a power curve. If this closes the gap then great. Plus the more people strong enough to take on end-game bosses, then more CRA and gollux and even tyrant gear will be available thus lowering the price. Sure it sucks for the highest players, and if this were the real world it would suck economically. But this is a game, and theres no reason why everyone shouldn't be able to get at least close to "powerful"

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Tashie

yeahhhh need that 7 day merch lol

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nathanjo

[quote=Neospod]Everyone please don't pick option 1 it's broken everything in the economy will be ruin </3 </3 </3 </3 >.< >.< >.< >.<[/quote]

You are not really smart are you? Its the actual opposite, This will greatly help the economy, and overall create more active maplers selling in the market, and items cheaper and everyone can find what they always wanted!

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ItzRayRay920

Option 1 b/c I want a 7 day merchant!

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UchihaNight

Option 2 save a pet adopt a pet

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Doutei

[quote=kinosira]Why not just expand their server bandwidth instead of those bs craps?[/quote]
cus increasing bandwidth obviously protects people from DDOS.

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kinosira

Why not just expand their server bandwidth instead of those bs craps?

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SLUgaming

i say 3 is the best benefit unless you want all the fms full of shops with random garbage in them ...

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nathanjo

option 1 is obviously the better choice guys, Everyone choose option 1. Its better for the economy and stuff will be cheaper, and we all Win. No need to get those exp boosters, we can just buy winter coupons, etc. plus you will be getting alot more money from this due to free shops, so... Those that complain about how FM is gonna be full with shops, got no idea that is actually a good thing. There is 20 channels, Enough for all of you to set up shops. Option 1 is the best in the long run.

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MrSinDeath19

3 is the best. I have multiple accounts, and having multiple granny shops really doesn't benefit me. So Exp boosts it is!

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MapleBhav

Come on option 1!

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Darknite388

Says i can't vote

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KamikazeDes

I want to say "Oh look at all the crap, cause thats what it is," but I don't want to spit a gift horse in the mouth.
But seriously, look at all this crap, cause thats what it is.

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Ben1214

3 is the best

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SanjuPM

yeah for reason mentioned above me, Voted option 3

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epikkhighh

i would prefer package 3, and i hope package 3 wins.
merchant stores? the fm will be packed to ch 2 fm 7 again.
water of life? you can get it from rewards shop, i already have 2 spare.

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