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[quote=defensenub]it's because the people who did actually pay for things are the mlc. artasi chose the iconic figureheads OF cashgrab.[/quote]

You sir clearly did not understand what i meant. In ems there are paid dungeons that players get items from, anything from energizers to miracle scrolls (whatever those are o.o).
The players who would pay for the mini dungeons would be flooding the market with these items. Onyx apples in ems are just a few mil because to these dungeons, where they are anywhere between a couple hundred mil in GMS. [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1923879/]List can be found here.[/url]

I think it honestly be nice to have more of these items in the market. Yet all people see is "oh just another thing i have to waste my money on". Nobody is telling you to spend your money on the game, there are multiple people who have proven that you can get places without spending money on the game!

Also, Im pretty sure there are more people than just the MLC who spend money on the game.

mlc is beyond a joke, but any post that even snubs their glory will result in deletion and a ban lel

there has been no noticeable change that nexon themselves couldn't do. idk why they'd focus on things that will just cause more problems.

@dulcet it's because the people who did actually pay for things are the mlc. artasi chose the iconic figureheads OF cashgrab.

Yes, this would just be another advantage for cash players - that I can understand. But what I don't understand is why Nexon can't actually work to improve existing maps in the game to give us more viable options of training. Not every solution has to be related to NX. We already have more than enough cash shop 'conveniences' and more than enough people quit because of that. Please work on improving game maps to provide for more training options first before considering this. Improving the game itself should be prioritized, not paid add-on dungeons.

[quote=mageofbattles]Herro maplers~

I just wanted to comment and explain why this is all happening.

First, not all of the MLC supports this.
Secondly, I don't think this is p2w. The cash shop is for convenience, and should give an advantage to players that pay. This is what cubes, 2 x's coupons, cash equips, safety scrolls, and pets do. This dungeon allows for convenience in training. I was under the impression that we'd implement a free pass a day.

Lastly, Remember that almost everything we work on, we want your guys suggestions to help out. This is the same case, we're not implementing this yet, the reason the thread was made was to get your guys feedback. And as such, we'd like you guys to give constructive criticism. If you don't like what we're doing, tell us why, and what you'd like us to change.[/quote]
why do nx users need another advantage when there are countless other problems with the game that haven't been addressed? if it's not p2w, it's still very poor prioritizing
between the thread at the Nexon forums and the one in Southperry, you guys have all the constructive criticism you need for this. I agree with anyone who said to just implement regular mini dungeons. we don't need or want the bells and whistles that come with it, if it means limiting most players to a certain number of entries

Herro maplers~

I just wanted to comment and explain why this is all happening.

First, not all of the MLC supports this.
Secondly, I don't think this is p2w. The cash shop is for convenience, and should give an advantage to players that pay. This is what cubes, 2 x's coupons, cash equips, safety scrolls, and pets do. This dungeon allows for convenience in training. I was under the impression that we'd implement a free pass a day.

Lastly, Remember that almost everything we work on, we want your guys suggestions to help out. This is the same case, we're not implementing this yet, the reason the thread was made was to get your guys feedback. And as such, we'd like you guys to give constructive criticism. If you don't like what we're doing, tell us why, and what you'd like us to change.

I like how people are complaining about the paying aspect but dont realize what they can get from it due to the people who actually do pay for it. You dont want to spend oney cool we get it.

I'm going to go ahead and vote no on these pay to train maps, not like my opinion will matter but it's worth a shot.

Baffling that they're trying to play this off as a solution to crowded maps and KSing. There are a dozen other things the MLC should be focusing on.
Not to mention every time we pick and choose new content from other versions and patch the code in, everything else breaks, then it continues to break every single new update because Nexon doesn't plan ahead.

hey that's my thread, callin MLC out on their crap >.<

[quote=whatthejew]Why add more content? We currently have tons of dead maps/PQs that could be changed/altered around for a better play experience.
I believe fixing these issues first before adding in a pay-to-train aspect would be the smarter thing to do.[/quote]

and that is why Maple is going down the toilet lmao

Why add more content? We currently have tons of dead maps/PQs that could be changed/altered around for a better play experience.
I believe fixing these issues first before adding in a pay-to-train aspect would be the smarter thing to do.

There are other ways to solve the crowding in certain areas, but they put a, "money making method", along to not solving the true core of the issue. Very few people will pay to avoid MP3, or R&J, but it won't solve the Drill Hall problem. If they nerf those places too (MP3 and R&J) along with adding PMD, it'll show that they support Pay-to-Win and not Pay-for-Convenience.

I say let Nexon do what they want. Just because they implement a "Pay to Play" system doesn't mean you are forced to play. Throughout my time playing MS, Nexon has given me more free Maple Points that I've bought NX. I say this time, we let Nexon win. Also, our two cents doesn't really matter. Nexon will be Nexon and you will be you getting Nexoned.

@aznunlt: Yes! How'd you know I bet those. Stalker >.<

[quote=whoamomma1]@above Yeah well, you got no friends, can't even pick what class to main, probably leeched your way up like every noob. Probably why you can't even pick a main because you haven't played it properly.[/quote]
Do you bet your left nutsac on it

[quote=dorks]so like isn't one of mlc's goal to lessen the grinding and improve the social experience of the game because okkkkk this is EXACTLY what we need now that the daily count for dipq went from 10 to 5
(sarcasm)
according to coppersan you can also buy with meso? just go with that problem solved. as for the grinding i guess it should be saved for another day[/quote]

I think for the 'buy with meso' thing is an exclusive EMS cash trade system. We don't have that so we can't legally get it with mesos.

EDIT: rephrased before mods start banning me for phrasing.

lol bringing back 50% exp bonuses per party member in certain maps will def make maple a more social game

The fact that Dimension PQ went from 10 to 5, is just sad. Lets make hell levels more hell!
They should remake PQs have no limits again

If there's a way to earn entries in game aside from just "1 free daily" then I don't really see "harm" in it but at the same time I don't think it should be the focus of future content.

If there's no alternative method to getting entries besides spending NX then whether or not it's the intention it will simply appear to be a cheap grab for money.

so like isn't one of mlc's goal to lessen the grinding and improve the social experience of the game because okkkkk this is EXACTLY what we need now that the daily count for dipq went from 10 to 5
(sarcasm)
according to coppersan you can also buy with meso? just go with that problem solved. as for the grinding i guess it should be saved for another day

i agree with her 100%

Bring back 50% bonus party EXP per member. Problem solved.

It's too late now