Xenon Funding Questions
Hi and thanks for any input you can give!
1.) With 2b and counting (I do not see my self a extremely funded), is it worth it to main a Xenon?
2.) What kind of equips should I shoot for? Would it be best to have just a 9% top if I cannot get a decent % all stat one?
May 29, 2013
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[quote=ExoBishops]Just in case you don't know,
Xenon is going to be nerfed like hell.[/quote]
I know, it was already nerfed in KMS and if we get that same nerf, I will still want to play the class.
Just in case you don't know,
Xenon is going to be nerfed like hell.
[quote=xMissngo]Any tips on armor to start gathering now?[/quote]
Hmm... I'd suggest you get a RSP or something if you can find one. The high base stat will favor you better than a 3% all tempest... You should also get a black bean hat and overall... Heliseum cape / shoes or Nova ones if you afford. Get some decent HQ pantheon gloves. And then... Empress shoulder... and w/e earrings and rings you can afford... same for face and eye
[quote=Mirabosh]Why not^^ Xenon is still a fun and unique class.[/quote]
Any tips on armor to start gathering now?
Why not^^ Xenon is still a fun and unique class.
[quote=Mirabosh]That's on paper only. Sure, they have lower % dmg per sec, but the fact that almost every piece of equip gives +all stat favors xenon greatly.
Take for example a xenon with 1.5k base of every stat. He has 210% all stat and 900 atk (xenon's weapon as quite low attack)
1.5 (4(str+dex+luk)) (atk/100)
1.5 (4(4650+4650+4650)) (900/100)
1.5 (55 800) (9)
753 300 maximum range
Now take a Kaiser with 2.5k base str, 1.5k dex total, 300% str and 1k atk
1.32 (str*4 + dex) (atk/100)
1.32 (10 000*4 + 1500) (1000/100)
1.32 (41 500) (10)
547 800 maximum range
See the huge gap? It is realistic for a xenon to get 1.5k base and so is it for a kaiser to get 2.5k, but that's about the maximum each of them could get as of now. The MEE also brought to KMS players a HUGE source of + all stat, making the gap even bigger. This is why they lowered the multiplier of xenons in the last nerf...[/quote]
But I cannot get 210% all stat and 900 attack, think I should still main a Xenon?
[quote=johny2toes]Xenon pre-nerf was weaker then GMS Kaiser. So the term "Over-powered" can't really apply to it. It was powerful but it wasn't the most powerful class.[/quote]
That's on paper only. Sure, they have lower % dmg per sec, but the fact that almost every piece of equip gives +all stat favors xenon greatly.
Take for example a xenon with 1.5k base of every stat. He has 210% all stat and 900 atk (xenon's weapon as quite low attack)
1.5 (4(str+dex+luk)) (atk/100)
1.5 (4(4650+4650+4650)) (900/100)
1.5 (55 800) (9)
753 300 maximum range
Now take a Kaiser with 2.5k base str, 1.5k dex total, 300% str and 1k atk
1.32 (str*4 + dex) (atk/100)
1.32 (10 000*4 + 1500) (1000/100)
1.32 (41 500) (10)
547 800 maximum range
See the huge gap? It is realistic for a xenon to get 1.5k base and so is it for a kaiser to get 2.5k, but that's about the maximum each of them could get as of now. The MEE also brought to KMS players a HUGE source of + all stat, making the gap even bigger. This is why they lowered the multiplier of xenons in the last nerf...
[quote=kiue]I thought I mention the fact that Xenon already got nerfed and his damage calculation has also decreased (meaning his weapon multiplier went down)
Not even worth using up all 2bil for Xenon since %all stats are hard to get and the game play style is boring as well. Everyone is just like, "OMG, it is an OP job, ima main him and KS everyone". Then when Nerf comes, everyone starts QQing about a job that was OP to begin with.
Just pick a job you know you will like other than a job that is going be nerfed and you'll QQ about it and quit changing to another class...
Just my opinion so... don't judge[/quote]
Xenon pre-nerf was weaker then GMS Kaiser. So the term "Over-powered" can't really apply to it. It was powerful but it wasn't the most powerful class.
I thought I mention the fact that Xenon already got nerfed and his damage calculation has also decreased (meaning his weapon multiplier went down)
Not even worth using up all 2bil for Xenon since %all stats are hard to get and the game play style is boring as well. Everyone is just like, "OMG, it is an OP job, ima main him and KS everyone". Then when Nerf comes, everyone starts QQing about a job that was OP to begin with.
Just pick a job you know you will like other than a job that is going be nerfed and you'll QQ about it and quit changing to another class...
Just my opinion so... don't judge
[quote=Chubrook]@xMissngo: id have to wait for the game to come up again..[/quote]
Ok, just post here when you can, and do you have an estimate of how much meso that all costed?
[quote=Chubrook]i dont have a lot of % all stat but im trying my hardest to even out in the stats since % all is so hard to find so far i gots 78% dex 84% str 24% luk 32% all just for xenon
thats not counting all the skill xenon has that gives all stat %[/quote]
Can you tell me what equips you have? Like the names, stats and potentials?
[quote=Din0]@xMissngo: What level do you get the special hat? and I'm not sure what the stats of that hat are :[/quote]
The hat is level 80.
There are a couple Hot Times for Xenon:
Berylroid (permanent android)
Xenon Cap (12 to all stats, 200 HP and MP, 50 defense and magic defense, 10 slots, if you are a 3rd or 4th job Xenon you get an extra 5% critical chance, 3 to all stats, and 6 attack) *Epic on reveal*
Bits Box
Personality Trait Potion
10 Winter Limit Coins
Mystery Mastery Book
1 Frosty Scroll (chosen randomly out of 5)
5 people per world receive the Unlimited medal, 5 per world receive a Tyrant Belt (same for Boots and Cloak)
@itamardol: I replied to your PM
So sorry fro late response, I was at work
You should spent some time training some other characters that will benefit your Xenon greatly.
Get a Kaiser to 100 for rank S Character card (+40 str)
Get a Angelic Buster to 100 for rank S Character card (+40 dex)
Get a Hayato to lvl 70 for his link skill (+5 all stats and 5 attack)
Cannoneer to lvl 100 for lvl 2 link skill (+25all stats and 10% HP/MP)
Mechanic to lvl 100 for rank S character cards (+15% buff duration)
Put AB, Xenon and Mechanic in the same card deck to active Pirate special effect (%PDR).
If you have a Jett, train it to lvl 120 for an extra all stats + attack buff (link skill, but can differ alot)
Edit : Evo rings and Tempest equips with % all stats also give a lot of +all stats and attack, try getting your hands on those.
Your crusader codex will give some + all stats and a medal, for example Neo city one gives +6 all stats and 1 attack also.
Furthermore, you can easily scroll a 20+ single stat tree branch nose (or buy it for around 100m).
And when Xenon finally arrives, hunt at Helisium mini-bosses for Nova/Helisium equips for a massive All stats/attack boost.
@Mirabosh: I see what you mean, although getting 100% All Stat is much easier/cheaper then 300% luk making it a better investment.
[quote=johny2toes]Actually All Stat% is always going to be better by quite a bit. It doesn't just raise base stats but stats from equipment as well.
So let's say I have 100 dex, luk, and str and have +50 All Stats from an equip.
If I have 100% Luk I'll have +300 luk
If I have 100% All Stat though I'll have 450 stat boost.[/quote]
If you have 300%* luk, you'll gain +450 stat from that, giving you 600 luk, 150 dex and 150 str = 900 total
If you have 100% all, you'll gain +150 every stat, giving you 300 of each = 900 total
I understand getting say 15% all is comparable to getting 21% luk, which obviously makes % all better. But to simplify a xenon's funding you can divide all his % luk, str and dex by 3 and add that to his % all stat
[quote=Mirabosh]9% luk doesn't magically become 3% all BUT it is equivalent to it, unless some of your base stats are higher (if most of your equip give + luk, then 9% luk is better than 3% all)[/quote]
Actually All Stat% is always going to be better by quite a bit. It doesn't just raise base stats but stats from equipment as well.
So let's say I have 100 dex, luk, and str and have +50 All Stats from an equip.
If I have 100% Luk I'll have +300 luk
If I have 100% All Stat though I'll have 450 stat boost.
9% luk doesn't magically become 3% all BUT it is equivalent to it, unless some of your base stats are higher (if most of your equip give + luk, then 9% luk is better than 3% all)
[quote=lilchiq]
the level 80 ones do well for the class.[/quote]
How exactly?
If All % is hard to get, aim for an equip with 3line which is LUK%, DEX% and STR%?
I would suggest thief top and bottoms, the level 80 ones do well for the class.
[quote=Din0]9% all top? and I was able to grab 3% all shoulders/Pendant/ring for like 30m ea., I found a Czak in the fm for like 250 (under average by like 3 int), an ABR for 75m, and 6%+3%all earrings for 250m~ Hopefully this helps~
Oh and get a cannoneer to 100, for that 25(?)all and a Hayato for that 10![/quote]
Instead of a czak, do you think the special hat the give for xenon will be better?
Cannoneer to 120*
[quote=johny2toes]9% luk does not get turned into 3% str/dex/luk.
9% luk is 9% luk.
If you read that off Ayumilove simply just stop. She's an idiot who doesn't know anything. Her information is very inaccurate and false.
You should be aiming for All Stat%, +All Stat gear such as Nova gear / Zakum / Horntail, and Atk gear.[/quote]
Ok thank you ill edit that part out.
9% luk does not get turned into 3% str/dex/luk.
9% luk is 9% luk.
If you read that off Ayumilove simply just stop. She's an idiot who doesn't know anything. Her information is very inaccurate and false.
You should be aiming for All Stat%, +All Stat gear such as Nova gear / Zakum / Horntail, and Atk gear.
[quote=Kyotis]I don't think the part about 9%Luk becoming 3% str, dex, and Luk is true o.o[/quote]
I don't know how to do links but if you Google search "xenon skills" the first link should have a part called Xenon Notes, look at what it says there.