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Nexon banning legitimate players

http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1394279-Nexon-banning-legitimate-players-%28and-letting-dupers-botters-run-free%29%26nxid%3D6

Roughly two hours ago, a well-known glitch with tower of oz involving Orange Slimes was found that they could be spawned in (essentially) any map. A harmless glitch that spiced up this otherwise boring game and Free Market. Upon realizing that these mobs did not take damage in the Free Market, I immediately stopped (which means less than half an hour of doing this).

I was banned for one week, for "hacking or use of illegal third-party programs."

While this is indeed a glitch, I am yet again disappointed with how this was handled. There are several individuals (no-names yeah I know) who BLATANTLY duplicate items, flaunt them, and sell them OUT IN THE OPEN and do not get banned. It took GM's under two hours to ban me for a harmless glitch. Why not ban those who deserve it?

This used NO hacks or third-party programs. If I am going to be banned, at least make the ban statement accurate.

This again shows how inconsistent Nexon is with banning. There are hundreds of botters across all servers in Stronghold maps, blatantly and intentionally cheating with zero repercussions. People who abused the Bounty Hunter glitch were unbanned based on a "will of good faith" or some other crap. People who hacked and duped years ago had their accounts released during "2nd chance 2.0" (desperate much?) with ALL of their illegitimate items in-tact.

How is my ban fair? And yes, I've already e-mailed customer support.

Banning because of something as harmless as this is absolutely ludicrous (and I don't need to remind you your game needs all the support it can get.. banning one of the most popular livestreamers over something as silly as this does not help).

Please lift this ridiculous ban from myself and others. Take the game down for an emergency USC if it's seriously that big of an issue.

Should also patch the issues that are actually detrimental to the game related to tower of oz when you fix this (broken 43f questions, 49f, ryude sword being unobtainable).

#freebryan

March 10, 2015

36 Comments • Newest first

Rachelll

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpynGAfg7hc]no one here has a sense of humor[/url]

Reply March 10, 2015
sparkshooter

[quote=xXMCheifXx]so is botting and duping but nexon doesn't ban for that[/quote]
The "they did that but didn't get punished!" excuse. Classic.
Though I have to admit, I use it from time to time.

Reply March 10, 2015
Edatron

[quote=reverexx2]Also, [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/maintenance/ban-list/00IJx/permanent-bans-01-29-2015-02-04-2015]nexon does ban botters[/url], its just that everytime one gets removed three more replace it.[/quote]

So, technically they gave up trying to ban them, because the other posts that follow are all "Permanent Bans: Ad-Spammers"

Reply March 10, 2015
hongfung

Could have been a permanent ban. An exploit is still an exploit. If you got away completely free, then I think people who got banned from say the bounty hunter event would find it unfair. I'm sure there were many who tried it once or twice, but stopped realizing the consequences, but still got banned.

And the thing with dupers/hackers/bots/ect., for everyone you ban, two more appear. They can keep on banning and banning, but it is an endless battle. In addition, I have heard that there are some people using Ps' to frame legitimate players by taking screenshots/videos of a copy of their character hacking. This gives them even more work to go through. Not saying Nexon is perfect, but it helps to see things from a different perspective.

Reply March 10, 2015
SmexHeal

#FreeBryan

Reply March 10, 2015
gottigotti

[quote=xXMCheifXx]u think me clown me not me 2m2m solo dorothy summon slime[/quote]

me think u banned clown

Reply March 10, 2015
Anthoy84

[quote=necron1636]Its just a week.[/quote]

Not the point. Legitimate players shouldn't be getting banned, especially considering Nexon's streak.

OT: Sorry for the loss. Now you can quit (for a week)!

Reply March 10, 2015
epicderp

Considering we just came off of one of the most annoying hacks/glitches involving the free market, the cannoneer bomb hack. I'd say it was justified. You were intending to cause "havoc" in the free market by disrupting the normal flow of the map.

I do however agree with your sentiment on the obvious hackers/dupers/botters that roam the game in plain sight without being banned but that's not to say you're excused from interfering with the normal gameplay of other players.

Reply March 10, 2015
necron1636

Its just a week.

Reply March 10, 2015
xXMCheifXx

[quote=gottigotti]u deserve the ban

hope it teaches u a lesson and gets u off ur "legit" high horse clown[/quote]

u think me clown me not me 2m2m solo dorothy summon slime

Reply March 10, 2015
SlipperySlimes

Why are you posting it here? What do you expect basilers to do about it..

Reply March 10, 2015
Cotopia

its your fault own fault for abusing the glitch. Even if its harmless, a glitch its always a glitch. Now bear with the consequences

Reply March 10, 2015
gottigotti

u deserve the ban

hope it teaches u a lesson and gets u off ur "legit" high horse clown

Reply March 10, 2015
xXMCheifXx

[quote=KamikazeDes]But summoning sacks can't be used in the FM, and (apparently) the only way to get rid of these mobs were through a gm's support. I mean, consider it like when hackers spawned PB and all those mobs in the FM. It drove everyone crazy. This is the same concept, albeit on a much, much smaller scale. Spawning mobs in the FM is mean anyway. You'd kill everyone who had their shops up![/quote]

I refused to summon them in an FM with permits. I got them in FM1 once (all Granny's).

You could kill them with a DrK using Beholder's Revenge, or having a familiar attack (only useful in FM's, not the entrance).

Reply March 10, 2015
Ziub

I'm surprised you were banned that fast or banned at all...but meh it's only a week right? I'm sure you have much better things you can do.

Reply March 10, 2015
reverexx2

[quote=xXMCheifXx]This is no different than using summoning sacks. I understood it was an unintended glitch, which is why I stopped after understanding how it worked well enough to report it properly.[/quote]

1) You didn't mention in your thread that you reported it
2) You should've said so in the first two lines to get even more support from Basil lurkers
3) My friend, this is just a one week ban and from the tone of your thread you wanted to cause some mild mischief. While I also question Nexon's banning patterns I don't think your case warrants a real complaint.. you should just pass it off as you being a thug.

Reply March 10, 2015
ox0Shad0w0xo

@xXMCheifXx See, but Nexon doesn't know what you were using them for. If they could be spawned in fm you could have potentially spawned them and killed people in shop permits, or at the very least attempted to. They ban botters all the time though, and they've been cracking down on dupers too, but who knows why some still survive their purges. At least you can take joy in the fact that they didn't permanently ban you for it. 1 week sounds like a "slap on the wrist because you normally don't do this type of thing" kind of ban

Reply March 10, 2015
KamikazeDes

[quote=xXMCheifXx]This is no different than using summoning sacks. I understood it was an unintended glitch, which is why I stopped after understanding how it worked well enough to report it properly.[/quote]
But summoning sacks can't be used in the FM, and (apparently) the only way to get rid of these mobs were through a gm's support. I mean, consider it like when hackers spawned PB and all those mobs in the FM. It drove everyone crazy. This is the same concept, albeit on a much, much smaller scale. Spawning mobs in the FM is mean anyway. You'd kill everyone who had their shops up!

Reply March 10, 2015
Flya

Nexon: "Bryan 2m2m No Clown solo dorothy. Makes the clowns upset and quit game so less money. Ban all 2m2m No clowns"

Reply March 10, 2015
Caeg

The thing I find humorous is that Nexon has even stated that they won't ban people who exploit if they're not doing it to a mass degree. I don't recall where they stated though. Sadly, Basil lacks sympathy for anyone. Best of luck to you with this.

Reply March 10, 2015
xXMCheifXx

[quote=KamikazeDes]I agree that it's harsh, but then again, you were knowingly breaking the rules. Why do it if you knew the potential repercussions...[/quote]

This is no different than using summoning sacks. I understood it was an unintended glitch, which is why I stopped after understanding how it worked well enough to report it properly.

Reply March 10, 2015
IHurtzLotz

[quote=xXMCheifXx]so is botting and duping but nexon doesn't ban for that[/quote]

actually nexons been REALLY banning a buncha botters lately..most of the top 1-50 in the rankings have disappeared randomly and reappear in a week or couple days showing they are stopping botters. As for duping..theres already reports of duping accounts/mules being banned but idk why nexon doesnt ban the obvious ones =.=

Reply March 10, 2015
LeadIn

One of the many reasons why I quit maplestory, banning the wrong person.

Reply March 10, 2015
reverexx2

[quote=xXMCheifXx]"Upon realizing that these mobs did not take damage in the Free Market, I immediately stopped (which means less than half an hour of doing this)."

reading is cool

if they could take damage they'd all be dead within seconds so it'd be like a GM summoning slimes[/quote]

"it seems like if the monsters could take or deal damage, you wouldve continued to play the game in a way that was not meant to be played" understanding hypotheticals is also cool.

I don't think the main issue is whether or not the slimes could damage players, the point is that an ordinary player could summon monsters in an unintended place.

Also, [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/maintenance/ban-list/00IJx/permanent-bans-01-29-2015-02-04-2015]nexon does ban botters[/url], its just that everytime one gets removed three more replace it.

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
KamikazeDes

I agree that it's harsh, but then again, you were knowingly breaking the rules. Why do it if you knew the potential repercussions...

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
goldyboi

I see your loss man. I hope your wife gets out of the hospital. My condolences if anything happens.

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
xXMCheifXx

[quote=krishman]Abusing bugs/glitches is against ToS iirc[/quote]

so is botting and duping but nexon doesn't ban for that

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
krishman

Abusing bugs/glitches is against ToS iirc and the notice is probably just generic

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
IHurtzLotz

i think nexon has high expectations of "good" players to not do it and just report the bug for it to get fixed/patch instead of doing it

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
SunsetChaos

send a ticket

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
IHurtzLotz

I think they didn't realize that it was a bug/glitch and the obvious choice was third party program or hack...

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
xXMCheifXx

[quote=reverexx2]I disagree. You potentially disrupted the Free Market and it seems like if the monsters could take or deal damage, you wouldve continued to play the game in a way that was not meant to be played.[/quote]

"Upon realizing that these mobs did not take damage in the Free Market, I immediately stopped (which means less than half an hour of doing this)."

reading is cool

if they could take damage they'd all be dead within seconds so it'd be like a GM summoning slimes

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
reverexx2

I disagree. You potentially disrupted the Free Market and it seems like if the monsters could take or deal damage, you wouldve continued to play the game in a way that was not meant to be played. And while you might not have been running any game-breaking third party programs, Nexon has used that ban reason to cover intentional use/abuse of glitches which was what you clearly did.

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited
DKChoiii

You're not Weezy

Reply March 10, 2015 - edited