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What does quotlegitquot mean nowadays?

I posted this rant as a comment on my video addressing InmateSearch, as a reply to someone still accusing InmateSearch of being illegitimate. I'll repost it here because I feel like it will get more attention. Let me know you guys' opinions on this. Here goes:

Everyone has a different definition for the word "legit". Legitimacy can range from whether someone hacks, bots, account shares, uses dupes, exploits etc. But the question is where do you draw the line? I've already confirmed that InmateSearch does not hack or bot, judging from his experience gain. If I were to train for 22 hours (like I did for a whole week), I'd gain roughly 250b exp on 1x, while using the party play method. I've heard that InmateSearch trains 18 hours, yet he gains 350b a day. The most likely explanation for this is that he's using the duped 1.5x boxes. That raises the question, does him using 1.5x boxes, make him illegitimate? He's still training a crazy amount of hours a day, so does him using duped buffs negate his effort and make him illegitimate?

As for the rumors of him account sharing, he's posted on Southperry, that his vacation is ending on the 29th of Jan. If this holds true, then he should either stop or slow down by a lot. If he continues to train at this rate after the 29th, we'll be able to confirm either that he lied about his vacation ending, or he is indeed account sharing. The final point I wanted to bring up was the party play method. Some people are saying that this is an "exploit". Does this mean that I am illegitimate? I've been playing Maplestory for 8 years, and I've never touched a hacking program, I've always tried my best to stay away from any dupes or exploits, which is why I feel strongly against people calling this training method an exploit.

/endrant

tl;dr I still think InmateSearch is legit

January 25, 2014

13 Comments • Newest first

loxiona

[quote=xtripled]yes those people are illegit, by definition you must follow nexon's ToS to be truly legit. Therefore 90%+ of the population is not legit.

it's not an exploit, it was intentional. KMS has the same system.[/quote]

KMS can't exploit it that well since they don't have a party play at hoh, or a lot of other areas for that matter. That's probably one of a few reasons why there top guy isn't lvl 250 yet despite having a lot more time to reach 250 in respect to GMS. You can't really even compare our levels to theirs anymore. We have it a lot easier than they do.

Saying that it is intential because KMS has it still is pretty poor support that it isn't an exploit. If it was an intended feature we wouldn't have had to discover it in the first place. It also wasn't introduced with party play, but with the 41 level difference rule, which intention and very purpose was to not reward parties with big level differences.

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/updates/update-notes/00H6x/v-141-cygnus-awakening-update-notes

[quote=Update notes]EXP Penalty Changes

The EXP penalty has been removed for hunting monsters that are of a lower level than you.

However, no Party EXP will be rewarded for parties with a 41+ level difference between its lowest and highest level members.
[/quote]

Reply January 26, 2014 - edited
Gummybearwizard

@xtripled: I acknowledge that, I said by a community's standards not nexon's. But this is a community topic, not directed towards nexon representatives.Seeing nexon lets players run free governing the morals of the player base seems to be up to the players. If 90% of us are not legit by nexon's standards who are we to hold others to it and what's the standard we believe in?

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
xtripled

[quote=Gummybearwizard]According to most of the "active" community, those who are in big guilds, participate in high level training, bossing, or merching,etc for the most part define legit as someone who doesn't scam or hack in an obvious way like botting or harmful way like keyloging. No one really defines it by following the tos to the letter as pretty much all of those people have done things like buy or sell nx. I'd for say it's illegit if he duped the 1.5 boxes himself but since nexon has let haxers run rampant I doubt many people who really fund and spend on their characters can say for sure they have never bought anything that could have been duped like nebs, no boom aees, rac masks,etc.

Some people claim using the party system to the point where you take other members exp is illegit, but the game is coded that way and kms has that as well. It could be nexon's intention to have it work that way, and if it isn't it's up to them to change it.Shared drops from bosses like cra was suddenly implemented without any acknowledgement, are people who make a full party for cra and get more drops illegit?[/quote]

yes those people are illegit, by definition you must follow nexon's ToS to be truly legit. Therefore 90%+ of the population is not legit.

[quote=3bmwhccnj1q]Using the game's 40 level difference exp denial system to give all bonus experience to one character is an exploit. Most high level players are abusing it. If you are using this same glitch, you are not legit. Sad fact is, legit players could not possibly compete with hackers/exploiters.

That aside, calling yourself legit and being an avid user of a hacking/blackmarket website...is troll/pathetic.[/quote]
it's not an exploit, it was intentional. KMS has the same system.

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
SilverFoxR

If you don't break any rules and play the game properly, you're legit.

See? That was easy.

/thread

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
3bmwhccnj1q

[quote=ZeroByDivide]I posted this rant as a comment on my video addressing InmateSearch, as a reply to someone still accusing InmateSearch of being illegitimate. I'll repost it here because I feel like it will get more attention. Let me know you guys' opinions on this. Here goes:

Everyone has a different definition for the word "legit". Legitimacy can range from whether someone hacks, bots, account shares, uses dupes, exploits etc. But the question is where do you draw the line? I've already confirmed that InmateSearch does not hack or bot, judging from his experience gain. If I were to train for 22 hours (like I did for a whole week), I'd gain roughly 250b exp on 1x, while using the party play method. I've heard that InmateSearch trains 18 hours, yet he gains 350b a day. The most likely explanation for this is that he's using the duped 1.5x boxes. That raises the question, does him using 1.5x boxes, make him illegitimate? He's still training a crazy amount of hours a day, so does him using duped buffs negate his effort and make him illegitimate?

As for the rumors of him account sharing, he's posted on Southperry, that his vacation is ending on the 29th of Jan. If this holds true, then he should either stop or slow down by a lot. If he continues to train at this rate after the 29th, we'll be able to confirm either that he lied about his vacation ending, or he is indeed account sharing. The final point I wanted to bring up was the party play method. Some people are saying that this is an "exploit". Does this mean that I am illegitimate? I've been playing Maplestory for 8 years, and I've never touched a hacking program, I've always tried my best to stay away from any dupes or exploits, which is why I feel strongly against people calling this training method an exploit.

/endrant

tl;dr I still think InmateSearch is legit[/quote]

Using the game's 40 level difference exp denial system to give all bonus experience to one character is an exploit. Most high level players are abusing it. If you are using this same glitch, you are not legit. Sad fact is, legit players could not possibly compete with hackers/exploiters.

That aside, calling yourself legit and being an avid user of a hacking/blackmarket website...is troll/pathetic.

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
xuaexboyxxx

if everyone thinks that lnmatesearch is illegitimate, that does not mean he is actually illegitimate.
why not leave him do his own business

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
Gummybearwizard

According to most of the "active" community, those who are in big guilds, participate in high level training, bossing, or merching,etc for the most part define legit as someone who doesn't scam or hack in an obvious way like botting or harmful way like keyloging. No one really defines it by following the tos to the letter as pretty much all of those people have done things like buy or sell nx. I'd for say it's illegit if he duped the 1.5 boxes himself but since nexon has let haxers run rampant I doubt many people who really fund and spend on their characters can say for sure they have never bought anything that could have been duped like nebs, no boom aees, rac masks,etc.

Some people claim using the party system to the point where you take other members exp is illegit, but the game is coded that way and kms has that as well. It could be nexon's intention to have it work that way, and if it isn't it's up to them to change it.Shared drops from bosses like cra was suddenly implemented without any acknowledgement, are people who make a full party for cra and get more drops illegit?

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
Psychopathic

[quote=Autistic]Is this not your thread? http://www.g(a)mersoul.com/forums/showthread.php?195655 seems pretty illegitimate to me.[/quote]

I'm pretty certain they are different people.

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
Skarppp

[quote=Autistic]Is this not your thread? http://www.g(a)mersoul.com/forums/showthread.php?195655 seems pretty illegitimate to me.[/quote]

He is zerobydivide not dividebyzero
Please sir, don't try to be a hero

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
Psychopathic

I honestly don't care who hits 250 first, both of you seem like decent people.
Either way, Nexon NA has already told us the level cap will be increasing further.

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
xFinalSorax

Hit 250 first please.
I'm rooting for you.

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
Skarppp

If you're legit
you should probably quit

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited
Zephorax

i'd say as long as there isn't any 3rd party program or whatever, then you're legit in my books

Reply January 25, 2014 - edited