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What does legit mean nowadays?

Repost, because old thread got trolled and locked.

I posted this rant as a comment on my video addressing InmateSearch, as a reply to someone still accusing InmateSearch of being illegitimate. I'll repost it here because I feel like it will get more attention. Let me know you guys' opinions on this. Here goes:

Everyone has a different definition for the word "legit". Legitimacy can range from whether someone hacks, bots, account shares, uses dupes, exploits etc. But the question is where do you draw the line? I've already confirmed that InmateSearch does not hack or bot, judging from his experience gain. If I were to train for 22 hours (like I did for a whole week), I'd gain roughly 250b exp on 1x, while using the party play method. I've heard that InmateSearch trains 18 hours, yet he gains 350b a day. The most likely explanation for this is that he's using the duped 1.5x boxes. That raises the question, does him using 1.5x boxes, make him illegitimate? He's still training a crazy amount of hours a day, so does him using duped buffs negate his effort and make him illegitimate?

As for the rumors of him account sharing, he's posted on Southperry, that his vacation is ending on the 29th of Jan. If this holds true, then he should either stop or slow down by a lot. If he continues to train at this rate after the 29th, we'll be able to confirm either that he lied about his vacation ending, or he is indeed account sharing. The final point I wanted to bring up was the party play method. Some people are saying that this is an "exploit". Does this mean that I am illegitimate? I've been playing Maplestory for 8 years, and I've never touched a hacking program, I've always tried my best to stay away from any dupes or exploits, which is why I feel strongly against people calling this training method an exploit.

/endrant

tl;dr I still think InmateSearch is legit

January 28, 2014

21 Comments • Newest first

ImCensored

inmatesearch is the best!
#2 and lower? you can forget the rest
he trains and yolos all day
sitting on his computer chair, camping at the bay

Reply January 28, 2014
Elufu

As the Japanese proverb says, [i]the nail that sticks out gets hammered[/i]. There's always something to criticise and people will always express their pure opinion on the matter. He doesn't seem to care much about what others think and that's the best way to get by it. Just let the bystanders say their thing and go by your way of what you think would generally be considered legitimate.

The fact that he has been unbanned is enough for me to believe that whatever he is doing is justified and deemed 'okay' for NexonNA.

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
ZeroByDivide

[quote=BoredAF]You do know if he gets to 249 and is at a high enough percent he might just call in to work sick right and play till he gets to 250. Him playing past his vacation days doesn't prove anything.[/quote]

That is very true. I didn't factor in the possibility of 2x events, so I assumed he would be stuck at 248. Now that he's this close, there's pretty much no stopping him.

OT: I'm getting fed up with your nonsense, @Skarppp. If you're going to rhyme / haiku, at least do it like @epyiee and prove a point while you're at it.

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Chinglez

[quote=LunaTehMerc]Hello everyone, it is me,
A rhyming cat is what you'll see.

I'm the true cat of Broa, so fear me
I'll give you a choice: cc, or dc

Try to fight with the Rhyming Cat,
You won't win, and you know that.

If you don't surrender, prepare for the worst.
You'll never win because i'll come in first.

Don't fight with my fellow buffs
They can't be beat no matter what
Try your best, you'll find yourself in cuffs
Give up now, or else be shut.

Also zero, just so i can weigh in,
I think he's legit, but sadly he'll win.
The fight for 250 was a tough path indeed
I commend you for your attempt to succeed.

<3[/quote]
I bet you I could rhyme
just as well as you could take a climb
So please no more
Rhyming is such a chore

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Simcaz

@Broriginal: Just because you use them doesn't make them legit. LOL

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
loxiona

[quote=ZeroByDivide]The final point I wanted to bring up was the party play method. Some people are saying that this is an "exploit". Does this mean that I am illegitimate? I've been playing Maplestory for 8 years, and I've never touched a hacking program, I've always tried my best to stay away from any dupes or exploits, which is why I feel strongly against people calling this training method an exploit.[/quote]

It very much is an exploit on the party play system, since the 41+ level rule was intended to deny everyone party experience, and not just everyone but the attacker. Since you are knowingly using this glitch in the system for your own gain, you are infact, exploiting it. Legitimacy is subjective and will vary from person to person, so I'll leave that to Nexon, who has the final say in such a matter (They seem to be okay with it so far, so who knows).

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Kiryuin

http://www.vappingo.com/word-blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ellipsis.png

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Broriginal

@Simcaz What you say refers to moral absolutism. It's like saying Buddha isn't a good person because he left his family behind to pursue finding a truth. Or like saying Gandhi is a bad person because at one point he praised Hitler. Yeah the 1.5x things may be duped, but using them doesn't mean you're not legit. Half of the scrolls, gears in this game is duped so please shush.

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
vhood

inb4 gm bans regardless

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Endless102

You guys need to stop rhyming
Should look at your timing
Because your wasting it
so should quit
He might be a Zero
But hes my Hero
Sleeping only 3 hours
and dost even take showers
I hate him for making luminous bandwagon
But people see him as a dragon
So good luck to you
And you will be first in my heart Boo

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Jaredragonx9

inmatesearch and zerobydivide
yall both my guys
luminous 4 lyfe
cucumberz

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Star909

I don't see why I even tried to have a thought process on this thread now if it's just going to be trolled upon.

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Star909

I'm pretty sure he said he wasn't using the 1.5 boxes because they would be too expensive for his wallet. Now what he is doing is considered an exploit by many. Some as a glitch. But to call out abusing a exploit would be similar to calling many speed-runners illegitimate because they have to heavily abuse exploits and glitches. Do we technically call them illegitimate because of that (well the glitch category is it's own category but I digress)? I think only Nexon holds the power to tell whether he is legitimate or not and no one really should be able to call him out without being a Nexon employee.

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Skarppp

I have a better idea than rhymes.
Time to write haiku

Scott has fun with moons
Nobody can stop my moons
no map spawn for you

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Endless102

My man don't worry
instead lvl to 250 in a hurry
Its a game no need to fight
so instead sleep at night
But it looks like you wont be number one
Buts its ok you still have Adrian's bun
In your race to 250 you have gained alot
But you found friends on the dot
So lets get along
Everything will be ok Zhong.

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Kaneusta

Hey Zero! Good luck to both of ya on the goal to 250.

Anyways continuing on,
From what I recall, someone said Inmate did the calculation and said he would he would 250 by wednesday anyhow- considering the average amount of exp he gets per day. If he doesn't, oh well.

Continuing on, the party exploit thing- I don't consider an exploit. He's not using a VAC hack or anything of that sort, or using anything that is outside of game aka third party programs. It's inside the game, and everything he's doing he is doing from within the game. I see no problems with it. He is perfectly fine doing it and so are you, and I know many high level players does it to powerrush a new character to level 120ish at Romeo and Juliet or such with a lvl 170+ Phantom/Kanna.

It's within game, and it doesn't require anything outside of game to make it work. It does not change any of the game mechanics either. He's perfectly legit in my opinion as well.

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Nidalee

everyone has mesos that have been obtained through illegitimate means, if people are really that technical no one is legit

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Castrius

idc at this point. Mostly everyone high level or with a ton of meso has participated in taking advantage of glitches or exploits. But as long as it doesnt affect my characters or my playing experience i could care less.

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Skarppp

I believe that inmate is possibly legit
But I do have to admit
my dc's do not work on him
it may be slim
this is just on a whim
He could be blocking the headers
Now it's time for some Chinese checkers

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited
Simcaz

The 1.5x boxes are duped, of course it's not legit to use duped items, in any way at all.

Reply January 28, 2014 - edited