So lets talk healthcare
Do y'all think a central planned health care system or a free market system is better?
Personally I feel like a free market system is better because it allows insurance companies to compete with each other for the best coverage at the optimal price. Sadly, Americas like free handouts so it wouldn't work
Realistically, I feel like there should be a central planned health care system (a better reformed version of what we currently have), and then have a private free market system that some people can choose to opt to, and in doing so, they forfeit their benefits in the central system but also no longer have to pay the taxes associated with the central system.
September 19, 2012
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[quote=NonSonoFronz]If the government were to take too much control of healthcare, they'd be partially in charge of choosing what procedure should and shouldn't be done on someone.
Since it would be on their dime and not someone else.[/quote]
The private healthcare companies do that all the time, RIGHT NOW.
If a procedure is more expensive than they want to pay for (ie, it cuts into their profits too much), they deny it.
If somebody's little girl has cancer and treating her will cost more than they want to let out of their profit margin, they tell the parents "too bad".
I've had doctors prescribe treatment for me that my healthcare company said no to.
If the government was running things, they wouldn't have to deny coverage to people so they can buy their rich CEOs another yacht.
Like all the other countries with successful health care system(s) they say "America is not the way!".
In whatever system we use, we would HAVE to make sure the government doesn't get overly involved with it.
Healthcare decisions need to be made by patients and healthcare professionals. THAT'S IT.
If the government were to take too much control of healthcare, they'd be partially in charge of choosing what procedure should and shouldn't be done on someone.
Since it would be on their dime and not someone else.
[quote=aznseal]Do y'all think a central planned health care system or a free market system is better?
Personally I feel like a free market system is better because it allows insurance companies to compete with each other for the best coverage at the optimal price. Sadly, Americas like free handouts so it wouldn't work [/quote]
You're speaking as if "free market" private health insurance hasn't existed for a hundred years already, and we haven't already seen that it DOESN'T work.
All it does is make CEOs of private healthcare companies rich, and drive up the cost of healthcare for everyone else.
"Healthcare costs have gone up at 4x the rate of inflation" says the headlines... so who exactly is GETTING that increase..?
Not doctors, not nurses, not ambulance drivers, not the lady who takes your blood.. it's the private insurance companies and their buddies "BigPharma".
The private healthcare insurance companies got SO greedy the country had to pass a law limiting the amount they're allowed to SKIM off the top of the money people pay them for healthcare insurance. Some companies had reached a level of 30% (or more) they skimmed from what people were paying them for insurance, leaving only 70cents (or less) for every dollar paid to them that would actually go to providing healthcare for their policy holders.
That's a lot of new BMWs for the healthcare CEOs and board members and a lot less healthcare for their "free market" patsies.
Instead we need a centrally administered agency that uses only 7% of the amount collected for administrative purposes and puts 93cents of every dollar paid for healthcare actually INTO healthcare.
Oh wait... we already have that. It's called "Medicare".
What we need is to open up Medicare for EVERYONE, and then watch what the "free market" does to the greedy private insurance companies.
[quote=uiluj4]i want everything i need to fall out of the sky and given to me for free because that's what obama promised will happen. shhhh don't tell the republicans about it, or else they'll think obama is a socialist when really he is a communist jihadist trying to destroy America[/quote]
obviously just look at his name
[quote=Ness]How's college going for you so far?
I, personally, hate programming.[/quote]
Pretty good. Majoring in zoology is really fun.
[quote=aznseal]In about 1.5 years, yes O_O[/quote]
How's college going for you so far?
I, personally, hate programming.
im to young to care about this
I like a free market with a voucher system. Everyone pays in and everyone gets enough of a voucher to pay for a basic healthcare plan purchased on the free market.
This way we can have the benefits of a free market system (innovation, improved access and technologies for people willing to pay, etc...) while guaranteeing basic and necessary healthcare for all.
I also very much favor a mandate. Everyone MUST purchase healthcare. The entire concept of insurance fails if you allow only sick people to buy it.
Good luck getting an intelligent discussion.
Why do you specify it to americans
[quote=MellowYellow]Oh you are discussing politics on basilmarket? You must be a political scientist![/quote]
In about 1.5 years, yes O_O