Ua Hero Vs Ua Bucc
I have reached a conflict with myself: I don't know which UA I want to make. I had planned on a Hero, but with the upcoming Pirate Revamp, I wouldn't mind a Bucc. Damage is not something I care about, I would just like pros and cons so as to help make my decision easier. Please leave opinions/pros and cons in the comments! Thank you!
(I apologize if the title was misleading in any way)
Edit: I suppose I should have added earlier that I want to boss eventually, but again, damage isn't something I really care about. I play for fun.
August 4, 2012
17 Comments • Newest first
Well, my mind has been made up, I'm going with Hero. Thanks all of you for your input!
[quote=Kazzooey]Well it's all about your preference. I just love being the badass who can sit in a group of strong mobs/bosses and be able to take the hits just fine, rather than the little girl who has to run away. Hero tanks much better than a Bucc does, but Hero's after their next revamp look pretty damn fun too. Both do really good damage. Hero's aren't that great of mobbers while Buccs are great mobbers. Hero's can use Rush + Slipstream(which becomes spammable and super cool and fast after revamp), while Bucc have to rely on their Rushing skills, and if there aren't any mobs around then you aren't going to get anywhere anytime fast. Hero's look pretty cool, but Bucc are a bit flashier. Sharkwave isn't that amazingly useful after revamp but it does work at times. Soul Driver for Hero's is pretty useful, especially for training them since they have pretty bad mobbing in 3rd job.
Both are/look fun, and I already have them both at a good level, ready to go when revamp hits.[/quote]
Slipstream becomes spammable? What update is that, I can't wait
[quote=sakichannnnn]Hero most definitely for bossing.
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@cilverx4 They don't have "no survivability." You're just not doing it right lol. I'm a level 192 hero "so dont try to argue."[/quote]
I like this response logic.
Imo idk why people above said that ua hero's dont use sd sd helps alot in some bosses like that top right arm in zak and such
[quote=shadow4son]because we solved his issue, which warrior should I make? I already have a DrK. Big question hero or pally? I care about damage but I hear pallys have insanely good def which balances it out for me[/quote]
Lol thats a pretty hard choice between those two.
If you have good survival skills, not to mention you have plenty of HP as a warrior, go for Hero, great bossing class. But pallys, ho ho ho, I only recieve 1 point of damage now
@sakichannnnn bahahaha hon, I've been playing ms since it came out. I promise you I know this game better than you and have stronger characters than you. Heroes have good survivability and im not doing it right? Go fight empress then get back to me about how "well" heroes can survive. You are more clueless than you could ever know. When fighting a boss with potion lock, heroes are completely screwed, they cannot defend themselves or heal themselves. Bossing is what matters in this game, not mobbing. Anyone can kill mobs.
[edit] also that lvl gap between us... easily covered by the end of the weekend, with minimum effort and time. Higher damage, faster training.
[quote=shadow4son]because we solved his issue, which warrior should I make? I already have a DrK. Big question hero or pally? I care about damage but I hear pallys have insanely good def which balances it out for me[/quote]
I'm still deciding.. only a few people actually listed pros and cons, so I have not decided yet.
because we solved his issue, which warrior should I make? I already have a DrK. Big question hero or pally? I care about damage but I hear pallys have insanely good def which balances it out for me
Well it's all about your preference. I just love being the badass who can sit in a group of strong mobs/bosses and be able to take the hits just fine, rather than the little girl who has to run away. Hero tanks much better than a Bucc does, but Hero's after their next revamp look pretty damn fun too. Both do really good damage. Hero's aren't that great of mobbers while Buccs are great mobbers. Hero's can use Rush + Slipstream(which becomes spammable and super cool and fast after revamp), while Bucc have to rely on their Rushing skills, and if there aren't any mobs around then you aren't going to get anywhere anytime fast. Hero's look pretty cool, but Bucc are a bit flashier. Sharkwave isn't that amazingly useful after revamp but it does work at times. Soul Driver for Hero's is pretty useful, especially for training them since they have pretty bad mobbing in 3rd job.
Both are/look fun, and I already have them both at a good level, ready to go when revamp hits.
[quote=cilverx4]heroes...dont have any survivability...whatsoever. I have one at 180 so dont try to argue. @Raidy16 stop sitting here beating yourself trying to figure out which to make. During the 2x today, make another cyg knight buy 2x and get to training. Youll have another UE by the end of tommorow if you know what you're doing. In fact, you could be done today, but I'm assuming you only want to play casually. If youre down for a whole lot of maple in one day, youll be done today.[/quote]
I play more than I should And I have a Cygnus Knight already started.
Hero most definitely for bossing.
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@cilverx4 They don't have "no survivability." You're just not doing it right lol. I'm a level 192 hero "so dont try to argue."
heroes...dont have any survivability...whatsoever. I have one at 180 so dont try to argue. @Raidy16 stop sitting here beating yourself trying to figure out which to make. During the 2x today, make another cyg knight buy 2x and get to training. Youll have another UE by the end of tommorow if you know what you're doing. In fact, you could be done today, but I'm assuming you only want to play casually. If youre down for a whole lot of maple in one day, youll be done today.
@magnumshadowx im positive after pirate revamp buccaneers have more survive-ability than heroes.
UA Heroes.
+Better survivability than a buccaneer (Power Reflection, Achilles, also more HP)
+Magic Crash
+Advance Combo Attack is very good
+Soul Driver makes training easier (Also Soul Driver becomes A LOT faster during the Mikhile update)
+Very good at bossing once all the important 4th job skills are maxed.
UA Buccaneers
+No mobility skill
+Decent Auto HP/MP recovery skill post-revamp. (Similar to Mercedes regen)
+Great at mobbing, even better post-revamp
+A lot better at bossing post-revamp
+Has a higher weapon mastery than Heroes post-revamp.
Bucc has more use of their skill, on my hero, which isn't an UA but still, I would never even think about using souldriver, as I could literally jump around spamming coma hitting 100-300k's at level 80, oneshotting everything.
If your going to make a UA, might as well make the most out of its skills.
In which case, a Bucc can probably make more use of Sharkwave (until the up-coming revamp in which case Hero's might use SD just a bit more).
Bucc