so, ifgoing by kms and most favorable stats/whatever
PB at (if you got the extra hit hyper) 7hits, 200% damage, MI, FC, Epic Adventurer, AB link lv2, DA link lv2, Hidden Blade, FC(1.6 damage) + EA(1.1 damage) + AB lv2 link(1.45 damage) + DA lv2 link(1.1 damage) = 125% damage boost (2.25 for multiplying purposes Assume 2m range.
[2m*2.0(skill damage)*7(hits)*2.25(% damage boost)*1.7(MI)] + [2m*2.25(damage boost)*1.4(hidden blade)*1.7(assuming mi affects this too)]
Either way you get 107,100,000 + 10,710,000 = 117,810,000 per PB cast and it hits how many times in a second? multiply that by this ridicularge number and we gots out oh god this could potentially kill zak in less than a second. One BF and one PB. JAYSUS. and we dont even know the delay.
DB's have several skills that raise the DPM Hidden Blade adds 1 line for 140% dmg per attack + Phantom Bonus Attack = 15 lines per attack + venom = 18 lines total but DPS it will be between 16-20 line a second without adding venom but with venom should be around 21-23 lines per second when all 3 lines are up for venom making it a pretty fast and power attack to use. (Estimated DPS)
[url=http://i.imgur.com/p8CWc.png]Blade Dancing[/url] [url=http://i.imgur.com/yJEtX.png]Asura[/url] [url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=61952&p=1069617&viewfull=1#post1069617]Another helpful post specifically about Blade Dancing, credits to JoeTang of Southperry[/url]
DBs are pretty expensive to fund but they are one of the strongest classes, and they are Nexon's love baby so they'll probably be buffed again in the future when they make super OP classes again.
Since Msea is currently the slowest server,we'll be getting mutiny patch next month (hopefully) and after seeing this. Should i fund a DB? I was planning to perfect a vip katara, should i do it?
If we assume Blade Dancing has the same delay as Asura, it's about 280ms.
That means it only hits 6-7 times per second. It does about 323% per hit right? That's about 1961% per second.
Phantom Blow hits way more than 6-7 times per second. Last time I checked it was around 16-17 times per second.
HOWEVER, Xenon has a special final attack move where the enemy is hit like a million times by rockets whenever they miss him. So that means all of his HPS is a lot higher.
@SeeMeTwice: Well,Blade dancing hits faster than pb but it has higher casting time(at least it looks like it,nothing that I said was proven)which means that on the long run Which is DPM,pb will reach higher dmg than blade dancing when blade dancing is still being casted Be aware that I'm talking on 1v1 only,Blade dancing obviously owns pb in multi-targets EDIT: didn't see you got answered
[quote=SeeMeTwice]Would you mind explaining to me the difference in DPM and DPS and why one class can be higher in one but lower in another?[/quote]
DPS means Damage Per Second. If you think about it, Marksman would have the best DPS because it can hti MAX with its Skill. But in the Long run, that skill can't be spammed or their other skills aren't fast/good enough, lowering in DPM.
DPM means Damage Per Minute. This is how PB could be better, as it is spammable with huge damage. The other skill can deal huge amounts of damage at once, but might be slower, thus lowering its DPM output.
[quote=inv16]Actually vids show so little of him even when they're long It looked horrible in vids but when I saw skills' descriptions and information it got me much more excited OTb will own probably own it in 1v1 due to higher total % dmg,though it's all about dmg,in terms of DPS I think blade dancing in better,but pb might have higher DPM[/quote]
Would you mind explaining to me the difference in DPM and DPS and why one class can be higher in one but lower in another?
[quote=Imaginal]It's way too early only 2min vids of him out[/quote] Actually vids show so little of him even when they're long It looked horrible in vids but when I saw skills' descriptions and information it got me much more excited OTb will own probably own it in 1v1 due to higher total % dmg,though it's all about dmg,in terms of DPS I think blade dancing in better,but pb might have higher DPM
@Pirate4Eva : Perv alert! @EpicMizuki@sush99 : Its automata/xenon's 4th job main skill, similar to Asura but hits twice with "shadow partner" 3xx% and NO COOLDOWN. Can't jump when using it though.
Wheres the hype for Xenon? Lol, it seems like nobody care about it.
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[quote=ShadowSkillz]@rabbithole : Thanks. So that means Asura (300ms) is faster/better than BD (720ms)?[/quote]
Yes.
Godammit, post2shortbs.
so, ifgoing by kms and most favorable stats/whatever
PB at (if you got the extra hit hyper) 7hits, 200% damage, MI, FC, Epic Adventurer, AB link lv2, DA link lv2, Hidden Blade,
FC(1.6 damage) + EA(1.1 damage) + AB lv2 link(1.45 damage) + DA lv2 link(1.1 damage) = 125% damage boost (2.25 for multiplying purposes
Assume 2m range.
[2m*2.0(skill damage)*7(hits)*2.25(% damage boost)*1.7(MI)] + [2m*2.25(damage boost)*1.4(hidden blade)*1.7(assuming mi affects this too)]
or all written out
(2,000,000 * 2.25 * 2.0 * 7 * 1.7) + (2,000,000 * 2.25 * 1.4 * 1.7)
Either way you get 107,100,000 + 10,710,000 = 117,810,000 per PB cast and it hits how many times in a second? multiply that by this ridicularge number and we gots out oh god this could potentially kill zak in less than a second. One BF and one PB. JAYSUS. and we dont even know the delay.
DB's have several skills that raise the DPM
Hidden Blade adds 1 line for 140% dmg per attack + Phantom Bonus Attack = 15 lines per attack + venom = 18 lines total but DPS it will be between 16-20 line a second without adding venom but with venom should be around 21-23 lines per second when all 3 lines are up for venom making it a pretty fast and power attack to use. (Estimated DPS)
db w/ hypers has 14 hit pb tho. and can they removethis no buff extension, tis an annoyance.
You guys do realize that to switch a number from DPS into DPM if it has a cooldown, you have to divide by the cooldown length right?
If neither skill has a cooldown, and is spammable, then the DPS is DIRECTLY proportional 1:1 with DPM, one is just multiplied by a factor of 60s
@Gallade96 : It'll be too girly not that it will affect the skill though.
@rabbithole : Thanks. So that means Asura (300ms) is faster/better than BD (720ms)?
[url=http://i.imgur.com/p8CWc.png]Blade Dancing[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/yJEtX.png]Asura[/url]
[url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=61952&p=1069617&viewfull=1#post1069617]Another helpful post specifically about Blade Dancing, credits to JoeTang of Southperry[/url]
Sources:
[url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=61952]1[/url]
[url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=50829]2[/url]
@ShadowSkillz:
DBs are pretty expensive to fund but they are one of the strongest classes, and they are Nexon's love baby so they'll probably be buffed again in the future when they make super OP classes again.
@ItzATrapp: Ah, i see.
Since Msea is currently the slowest server,we'll be getting mutiny patch next month (hopefully) and after seeing this. Should i fund a DB? I was planning to perfect a vip katara, should i do it?
[quote=ShadowSkillz]Tittles.[/quote]
If we assume Blade Dancing has the same delay as Asura, it's about 280ms.
That means it only hits 6-7 times per second. It does about 323% per hit right? That's about 1961% per second.
Phantom Blow hits way more than 6-7 times per second. Last time I checked it was around 16-17 times per second.
HOWEVER, Xenon has a special final attack move where the enemy is hit like a million times by rockets whenever they miss him. So that means all of his HPS is a lot higher.
@darkspawn980:
I'm not sure what % I should get for him
But his link skill is 5% all stat at 70, and 10% at 120 (or whatever the levels were can't remember). That's pretty good.
@SeeMeTwice: Well,Blade dancing hits faster than pb but it has higher casting time(at least it looks like it,nothing that I said was proven)which means that on the long run
Which is DPM,pb will reach higher dmg than blade dancing when blade dancing is still being casted
Be aware that I'm talking on 1v1 only,Blade dancing obviously owns pb in multi-targets
EDIT: didn't see you got answered
@SilverStrato: Ah, okay. I was always confused because I thought DPM was DPSx60 lol
[quote=SeeMeTwice]Would you mind explaining to me the difference in DPM and DPS and why one class can be higher in one but lower in another?[/quote]
DPS means Damage Per Second.
If you think about it, Marksman would have the best DPS because it can hti MAX with its Skill. But in the Long run, that skill can't be spammed or their other skills aren't fast/good enough, lowering in DPM.
DPM means Damage Per Minute.
This is how PB could be better, as it is spammable with huge damage. The other skill can deal huge amounts of damage at once, but might be slower, thus lowering its DPM output.
[quote=inv16]Actually vids show so little of him even when they're long
It looked horrible in vids but when I saw skills' descriptions and information it got me much more excited
OTb will own probably own it in 1v1 due to higher total % dmg,though it's all about dmg,in terms of DPS I think blade dancing in better,but pb might have higher DPM[/quote]
Would you mind explaining to me the difference in DPM and DPS and why one class can be higher in one but lower in another?
[quote=Imaginal]It's way too early only 2min vids of him out[/quote]
Actually vids show so little of him even when they're long
It looked horrible in vids but when I saw skills' descriptions and information it got me much more excited
OTb will own probably own it in 1v1 due to higher total % dmg,though it's all about dmg,in terms of DPS I think blade dancing in better,but pb might have higher DPM
[quote=Imaginal]It's way too early only 2min vids of him out[/quote]
we got all the skills, numbers and stuff out, just because the vids are short doesn't mean there can't be hype.
i for one, am pretty excited about or robotic pirate ninja overlords.
[quote=ShadowSkillz]Wheres the hype for Xenon? Lol, it seems like nobody care about it. [/quote]
It's way too early only 2min vids of him out
@Pirate4Eva : Perv alert!
@EpicMizuki @sush99 : Its automata/xenon's 4th job main skill, similar to Asura but hits twice with "shadow partner" 3xx% and NO COOLDOWN. Can't jump when using it though.
Wheres the hype for Xenon? Lol, it seems like nobody care about it.
NOPE. Blade Dancing > All
What is this blade dancing you speak of?
Replace your L with I tehe.