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A few questions

random feeling of wanting to start a new f/p mage again. My first fire mage was within the first month of gms, and had a blast fire arrowing stuff.

Naturally times have changed, and I never really stuck around because 3rd job and later 4th job were more poison oriented.

After getting an evan up to decent lvl, i think i got my 'fire' fill, and now am curious about the current f/p mage. Can't think of many classes that uses attacks from 2nd job in their rotation.

1. So is 3rd job not about misting up the whole map and wacking things when they have 1 hp? Does the new way work well at lhc from 110-120?
2. 4th job seems to be all about DoT stacking and bombing that. How long does that 'process' take? How effective are they training at lhc?
3. Is first and 2nd job any fun? With 2x cards being gone tomorrow, I'm debating if I should just pick up a lvl100 card (don't judge! just tired of searching through chls of hackers for an empty room ;_.
4. It seems like f/p mages are pretty much always in close range, is pot usage high? Any way to reduce damage outside of magic guard?

Anyhow, thanks!

October 4, 2012

20 Comments • Newest first

chickdigger802

woo am progressing well (lvl 75). Was planning on going mist first... but i put a point into explosion and it makes jesters so much easier. it's pretty ridiculous lol. Think ill max explosion amp arcane than poison stuff.

Reply October 6, 2012
IImaplers

[quote=chickdigger802]Do fire mages use the high lvl ele staffs or dragon tail staff/wands?[/quote]
Either one works, but if you can get the whole empress set it's more effective than getting an estaff 5/6.

Reply October 5, 2012
chickdigger802

Do fire mages use the high lvl ele staffs or dragon tail staff/wands?

Reply October 5, 2012
IImaplers

Explosion [b]IS[/b] good in 3rd job at LHC, especially at Bearwolves/etc., where you can hit two platforms at once with it.

@OP: 20 mil is probably good for potions for 1-100. I'm just guessing though. I think about 50 mil is good for a chunk of 4th job.

Reply October 5, 2012 - edited
Green4EVER

[quote=Zovea]How much do you hit per paralyze?[/quote]

http://www.youtube.com/skelement3

Reply October 5, 2012 - edited
Zovea

@Green4EVER: How much do you hit per paralyze?

Reply October 5, 2012 - edited
Green4EVER

@Zovea K good you fixed it. Now I don't have to bash you into oblivion.

Reply October 5, 2012 - edited
Zovea

@shaftkid2: I thought they were called "Eruption" and "Mist Eruption".

Reply October 5, 2012 - edited
Zovea

@shaftkid2: Oh I meant explosion. It still clear I'm talking about 3rd job LHC, but w/e.

Reply October 5, 2012 - edited
Zovea

@Green4EVER: No, but you should probably read the thread before jumping to conclusions.

Reply October 5, 2012 - edited
Green4EVER

[quote=Zovea]Why would you use Eruption at LHC? That's stupid. The only map that would even be reasonable on are golems, but no one goes there. FD/PB/FG/Mist to 4th job. Make sure you stack on each monster before it's killed to maximize exp.[/quote]

Are you retarded?

Reply October 5, 2012 - edited
Zovea

Why would you use Explosion at LHC? That's stupid. The only map that would even be reasonable on are golems, but no one goes there. FD/PB/FG/Mist to 4th job. Make sure you stack on each monster before it's killed to maximize exp.

Reply October 5, 2012 - edited
OMGpineapples

Misting at Jesters was so fun It scared all the KSers away! Explosion is a pretty good skill to use too!

It really doesn't take long to cast DoT skills, except for Meteor. I set Paralyze, Poison Bomb, and Fire Demon as a Macro. I also use big bang, but I don't charge it. Oooh, and I spam paralyze a lot.

1st job is easy. 2nd job is somewhat boring, as it is with all the other classes. When you reach 3rd job, the fun begins!

At my current level (15x) I use ginger ales (The white potion that heals 75% hp/mp). Pot consumption isn't too bad, I guess it depends on what you're training on.

Reply October 4, 2012 - edited
chickdigger802

[quote=IImaplers]1. So is 3rd job not about misting up the whole map and wacking things when they have 1 hp? Does the new way work well at lhc from 110-120?
[b]I think Explosion is better suited for LHC than Mist is (until 4th job rolls along with Mist Eruption). But both Mist and Explosion are viable options as main 3rd attacks. It could also be argued that Fire Demon is viable as a main attack in 3rd job. I see Mist + FD as a viable tandem of attacks as well. Lots of good choices in 3rd job.[/b]

2. 4th job seems to be all about DoT stacking and bombing that. How long does that 'process' take? How effective are they training at lhc?
[b]How effective you are at LHC really depends on how great your gear is. But yes, 4th job is very much about stacking DoT and exploding (unless you're extremely funded and it's better DPM to constantly spam paralyze, even so DoT from other skills can still prove to be useful at times too). At LHC in 4th job, if you can do huge damage with Eruption, you'll train effectively. I believe a range of about 25k-ish will be enough to do max damage with Eruption with all your DoT skills combined to build it up. You build it up with casting mist+FD+PB+Big Bang+Meteor(if available)+etc.[/b]

3. Is first and 2nd job any fun? With 2x cards being gone tomorrow, I'm debating if I should just pick up a lvl100 card (don't judge! just tired of searching through chls of hackers for an empty room ;_.
[b]1st job is a breeze. Most people can easily reach lvl 30 in about 1-2 hours (without exp bonuses). 2nd job is not bad either. If you can get a decent azwan party, you'll be lvling fast. Or try your luck at jesters from 5x for some crazy exp. There's many options. 2nd job is just as fun for an FP as it is for any other class.[/b]

4. It seems like f/p mages are pretty much always in close range, is pot usage high? Any way to reduce damage outside of magic guard?
[b]As long as you've got a good 20 mil mesos saved up for pot usage, you'll do fine imo. Things that can help with pot burn and damage reduction are HP/MP familiars.[/b]

Hope this helps.

@mrjimmy: I don't know why, but your post made me LMAO.[/quote]

2. Problem is that I found scarecrows and jesters to be awful :S. The new poison ball thing is pretty good though!

4. 20m... for what? is that all the pots i need from 120-200?

Reply October 4, 2012 - edited
IImaplers

1. So is 3rd job not about misting up the whole map and wacking things when they have 1 hp? Does the new way work well at lhc from 110-120?
[b]I think Explosion is better suited for LHC than Mist is (until 4th job rolls along with Mist Eruption). But both Mist and Explosion are viable options as main 3rd attacks. It could also be argued that Fire Demon is viable as a main attack in 3rd job. I see Mist + FD as a viable tandem of attacks as well. Lots of good choices in 3rd job.[/b]

2. 4th job seems to be all about DoT stacking and bombing that. How long does that 'process' take? How effective are they training at lhc?
[b]How effective you are at LHC really depends on how great your gear is. But yes, 4th job is very much about stacking DoT and exploding (unless you're extremely funded and it's better DPM to constantly spam paralyze, even so DoT from other skills can still prove to be useful at times too). At LHC in 4th job, if you can do huge damage with Eruption, you'll train effectively. I believe a range of about 25k-ish will be enough to do max damage with Eruption with all your DoT skills combined to build it up. You build it up with casting mist+FD+PB+Big Bang+Meteor(if available)+etc.[/b]

3. Is first and 2nd job any fun? With 2x cards being gone tomorrow, I'm debating if I should just pick up a lvl100 card (don't judge! just tired of searching through chls of hackers for an empty room ;_.
[b]1st job is a breeze. Most people can easily reach lvl 30 in about 1-2 hours (without exp bonuses). 2nd job is not bad either. If you can get a decent azwan party, you'll be lvling fast. Or try your luck at jesters from 5x for some crazy exp. There's many options. 2nd job is just as fun for an FP as it is for any other class.[/b]

4. It seems like f/p mages are pretty much always in close range, is pot usage high? Any way to reduce damage outside of magic guard?
[b]As long as you've got a good 20 mil mesos saved up for pot usage, you'll do fine imo. Things that can help with pot burn and damage reduction are HP/MP familiars.[/b]

Hope this helps.

@mrjimmy: I don't know why, but your post made me LMAO.

Reply October 4, 2012 - edited
chickdigger802

yeah i know pots are cheap... but something about not having to save pot money still gets me :X

Are there any videos of f/p mages training? Having the hardest time finding videos on youtube that aren't 5 years old or just a lvl 200 doing max damage against bosses.

I've still haven't seen a f/p mage anywhere in scania since I started playing again the past month :S

Reply October 4, 2012 - edited
chickdigger802

So for lhc you drop your DoT's and explode away?

Reply October 4, 2012 - edited
GoXDS

F/P don't have any rush or Pseudo rush. LHC monsters have too much HP to be ONLY misting. ME as mentioned. imo, F/P felt terribly boring 3rd Job x_x was easier to train a Priest even though it did less dmg (still trained faster though cause Explosion's 1 line vs Shining Ray's 3? and was training on monsters 10-20 Lvls higher)

Reply October 4, 2012 - edited
chickdigger802

fp don't have any push pull moves right?

Reply October 4, 2012 - edited
Arcana27961

If you like fire, you might be disappointed with F/Ps. The only time we use a fire skill as our main attack is in 3rd job.

1) [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-FP-Skill-Distribution-Guide-420.html]It really depends on what build you go for.[/url] For normal training, I preferred using Explosion over Poison Mist. I was already in 4th job by the time LHC came out, so I don't know what a 3rd job F/P would do, but I'd expect using FD, Mist, and Explosion would be great (just don't mist the entire map).

2) It takes a couple seconds to use every DoT skill, other than Meteor Shower. You will spam Paralyze a few times to stack Arcane Aim though. Personally I like using Poison Breath, Fire Demon, Big Bang (uncharged), Paralyze a few times for Arcane Aim, Mist, and then Mist Eruption. Unless I trained with funded players at LHC, I usually dealt the most damage, so we're pretty damn good there.

3) 1st to 3rd job, for any class, is terribly boring busy work to me. I made another F/P, during the major mage revamp a while back, and the improved Poison Breath made 2nd job much better though.

4) The only time I ever burned through pots is when I trained at Stronghold (they did 6-7k damage). Potions are so inexpensive though, it really doesn't matter.

Reply October 4, 2012 - edited