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Warriors do need dex!

After about a week now I've been seeing that warriors are going to go dexless becuase they think that after bigbang they wont need the accuracy. BUT! Warriors still need accuracy. Just becuase you get a +5% miss rate for every monster you fight above your level doesn't mean that you ONLY have a 5% miss rate. It adds the 5% miss rate to your accuracy. So don;t go dexless unless you want to be killing things at your level or lower

November 25, 2010

21 Comments • Newest first

johny2toes

Warriors can easily still be dexless they just can't be accuracy-less
And actually being dexless is even easier now thanks to Big Bang.

There's 2 things that are applied for your hit rate.
1.) For every level that you're below the monster, a 5% miss rate is applied by every lv.
2.) As long as your accuracy meets, or surpasses the monsters avoid you'll have 100% hit rate as long as you meet their lv also.

Being dexless is pretty easy.
Mastery gives a warrior +60 accuracy.

Now I don't know the avoid changes made to monsters after BB
but take The Boss for example he has the highest avoid in the game atm of 120.

So that means atm any warrior at lv 175 with ONLY +60 accuracy from Mastery would have a 50% hit rate on The Boss.
Once you add Zhelm and other equips that easily add accuracy without needing dex you'd have 100% hit rate easily without much funding.

Reply November 28, 2010
Legendaire

They gave the ludi cape 400acc? o-o
What about the people with existing ludi capes hahah?

Reply November 27, 2010
alex3064

@GoXDS: u are right! we need accuracy!

Reply November 26, 2010
GoXDS

[quote=alex3064]Bigbang = Accuracy very important,
Low dex warriors = will probably fail unless u can support ur dex 1.5~2x ur lv because
even 50dex lv 50 warrior hits misses on lv 45 monsters[/quote]
*sigh* you didn't read my post, did you? I already showed EXACT proof how Warriors do NOT need DEX.

Reply November 26, 2010
alex3064

Bigbang = Accuracy very important,
Low dex warriors = will probably fail unless u can support ur dex 1.5~2x ur lv because
even 50dex lv 50 warrior hits misses on lv 45 monsters

Reply November 26, 2010
Rexaar

This also have 400 acc and it for head.
http://www.basilmarket.com/show/screen/190305/0/Time_traveler_laurels.html

Reply November 26, 2010
Emenia

I'm dexless and have 217 accuracy. Warriors do not need dex at all lol.

Reply November 26, 2010
setget

[quote=setget]After about a week now I've been seeing that warriors are going to go dexless becuase they think that after bigbang they wont need the accuracy. BUT! Warriors still need accuracy. Just becuase you get a +5% miss rate for every monster you fight above your level doesn't mean that you ONLY have a 5% miss rate. It adds the 5% miss rate to your accuracy. So don;t go dexless unless you want to be killing things at your level or lower[/quote]

EDIT: Not everyone is funded or have high leveled players

Reply November 26, 2010
popsicklezzz

you dont need dex, and if you keep missing, use a sniper pill, or go train on differant monsters
and some people sell accuracy shoes for about 5mil
ex.
lvl 50 warrior shoe
+1str
+2dex
slots: clean >:C
----------
+24 acc
+24 acc

Reply November 26, 2010
Dorks

Oh noes, what do I do? My 143 hero only has like 163 acc but 4 base dex!

Reply November 26, 2010
deathleaper

@AdroxNight: Give me a reason why you would have % str bonuses if you can't even afford to be dexless.

Reply November 26, 2010
SilentXynh

[quote=Lugiaman64]The only thing you will really need accuracy for is pink bean. It has like 628 avoid (I think) I believe you need the same amount of accuracy or higher than monsters avoid and be the same level or higher as it too hit it 100%. Even with all the good ways to get accuracy it still seems kinda hard for a warrior to get that much accuracy.[/quote]

Ludibrium Cape gives +400 accuracy.
You only need 225 accuracy for the other mobs you train on.
@Yam24: You don't, you still need your accuracy to equal the monster's avoidability to 100% it. It's just absurdly easy to get the accuracy that adding DEX is not needed.

Reply November 26, 2010
Yam24

If all classes have 100% hit rate with a monster of the same level, then DEX is absolutely useless for warriors.

Reply November 26, 2010
ramin8r

[quote=Phlem]Quit spitting lies about things you know nothing about. As long as you fight monsters equal to or lower than your level, you have a 100% hit rate. And even monsters 3 or 4 levels ahead of you are fairly easy to train on. Dex is no longer required for warriors.[/quote]

unless u intend to kill pink bean

Reply November 26, 2010
GoXDS

with Base stats of 4 LUK and 4 DEX, a zhelm and a MoN, that's 24 LUK, 24 DEX, and 35 Acc (plus 60 Acc from mastery totaling 95). inputting that into the new formula, that's a total of 147.8 Acc, enough for all monsters Lvl 140 and under. this means up until Lvl 140, a Warrior will never need any more DEX to hit monsters his Lvl and under 100% of the time. warriors just need 21.2 acc from DEX/Luk/Acc which shouldn't be very hard to obtain. just to make it 100% clear for everyone =P

Reply November 26, 2010
Lugiaman64

The only thing you will really need accuracy for is pink bean. It has like 628 avoid (I think) I believe you need the same amount of accuracy or higher than monsters avoid and be the same level or higher as it too hit it 100%. Even with all the good ways to get accuracy it still seems kinda hard for a warrior to get that much accuracy.

Reply November 26, 2010
SilentXynh

TS, you are seriously misinformed.
Your hit rate before taking account the level difference will not exceed 100%.
It doesn't matter how much accuracy you have, you're still going to miss on things with levels higher than yours.
Hit rate is: sqrt(playeraccuracy) - sqrt(mobavoid) + 100
Take away 5% for every level.
You will basically only be killing things your level or lower anyway regardless of your accuracy.
DEXless IS the way to go post revamp due to how absurdly easy it is to get accuracy.

Reply November 26, 2010
deathleaper

Because accuracy is hard to get from potentials amirite TS?

Reply November 26, 2010
Jinghang

Look the formula says you still need accuracy. But get this, DEX is 1.2acc, LUk is 0.8ACC, Mastery gives +60 acc, all this is after BB. Trust me you won't need dex.

Reply November 25, 2010
Hiraku

[quote=Phlem]Quit spitting lies about things you know nothing about. As long as you fight monsters equal to or lower than your level, you have a 100% hit rate. And even monsters 3 or 4 levels ahead of you are fairly easy to train on. Dex is no longer required for warriors.[/quote]

You have an 80% hit rate, you still need the same accuracy as the monsters avoid.

Reply November 25, 2010
tecul1

... partly correct.
The thing is, mastery gives 60 acc for all classes, Zhelm gives 20acc, and... that's pretty much all the acc you need for, like, ever o.0

Reply November 25, 2010