Warriors do need dex!
After about a week now I've been seeing that warriors are going to go dexless becuase they think that after bigbang they wont need the accuracy. BUT! Warriors still need accuracy. Just becuase you get a +5% miss rate for every monster you fight above your level doesn't mean that you ONLY have a 5% miss rate. It adds the 5% miss rate to your accuracy. So don;t go dexless unless you want to be killing things at your level or lower
November 25, 2010
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Warriors can easily still be dexless they just can't be accuracy-less
And actually being dexless is even easier now thanks to Big Bang.
There's 2 things that are applied for your hit rate.
1.) For every level that you're below the monster, a 5% miss rate is applied by every lv.
2.) As long as your accuracy meets, or surpasses the monsters avoid you'll have 100% hit rate as long as you meet their lv also.
Being dexless is pretty easy.
Mastery gives a warrior +60 accuracy.
Now I don't know the avoid changes made to monsters after BB
but take The Boss for example he has the highest avoid in the game atm of 120.
So that means atm any warrior at lv 175 with ONLY +60 accuracy from Mastery would have a 50% hit rate on The Boss.
Once you add Zhelm and other equips that easily add accuracy without needing dex you'd have 100% hit rate easily without much funding.
They gave the ludi cape 400acc? o-o
What about the people with existing ludi capes hahah?
@GoXDS: u are right! we need accuracy!
[quote=alex3064]Bigbang = Accuracy very important,
Low dex warriors = will probably fail unless u can support ur dex 1.5~2x ur lv because
even 50dex lv 50 warrior hits misses on lv 45 monsters[/quote]
*sigh* you didn't read my post, did you? I already showed EXACT proof how Warriors do NOT need DEX.
Bigbang = Accuracy very important,
Low dex warriors = will probably fail unless u can support ur dex 1.5~2x ur lv because
even 50dex lv 50 warrior hits misses on lv 45 monsters
This also have 400 acc and it for head.
http://www.basilmarket.com/show/screen/190305/0/Time_traveler_laurels.html
I'm dexless and have 217 accuracy. Warriors do not need dex at all lol.
[quote=setget]After about a week now I've been seeing that warriors are going to go dexless becuase they think that after bigbang they wont need the accuracy. BUT! Warriors still need accuracy. Just becuase you get a +5% miss rate for every monster you fight above your level doesn't mean that you ONLY have a 5% miss rate. It adds the 5% miss rate to your accuracy. So don;t go dexless unless you want to be killing things at your level or lower[/quote]
EDIT: Not everyone is funded or have high leveled players
you dont need dex, and if you keep missing, use a sniper pill, or go train on differant monsters
and some people sell accuracy shoes for about 5mil
ex.
lvl 50 warrior shoe
+1str
+2dex
slots: clean >:C
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+24 acc
+24 acc
Oh noes, what do I do? My 143 hero only has like 163 acc but 4 base dex!
@AdroxNight: Give me a reason why you would have % str bonuses if you can't even afford to be dexless.
[quote=Lugiaman64]The only thing you will really need accuracy for is pink bean. It has like 628 avoid (I think) I believe you need the same amount of accuracy or higher than monsters avoid and be the same level or higher as it too hit it 100%. Even with all the good ways to get accuracy it still seems kinda hard for a warrior to get that much accuracy.[/quote]
Ludibrium Cape gives +400 accuracy.
You only need 225 accuracy for the other mobs you train on.
@Yam24: You don't, you still need your accuracy to equal the monster's avoidability to 100% it. It's just absurdly easy to get the accuracy that adding DEX is not needed.
If all classes have 100% hit rate with a monster of the same level, then DEX is absolutely useless for warriors.
[quote=Phlem]Quit spitting lies about things you know nothing about. As long as you fight monsters equal to or lower than your level, you have a 100% hit rate. And even monsters 3 or 4 levels ahead of you are fairly easy to train on. Dex is no longer required for warriors.[/quote]
unless u intend to kill pink bean
with Base stats of 4 LUK and 4 DEX, a zhelm and a MoN, that's 24 LUK, 24 DEX, and 35 Acc (plus 60 Acc from mastery totaling 95). inputting that into the new formula, that's a total of 147.8 Acc, enough for all monsters Lvl 140 and under. this means up until Lvl 140, a Warrior will never need any more DEX to hit monsters his Lvl and under 100% of the time. warriors just need 21.2 acc from DEX/Luk/Acc which shouldn't be very hard to obtain. just to make it 100% clear for everyone =P
The only thing you will really need accuracy for is pink bean. It has like 628 avoid (I think) I believe you need the same amount of accuracy or higher than monsters avoid and be the same level or higher as it too hit it 100%. Even with all the good ways to get accuracy it still seems kinda hard for a warrior to get that much accuracy.
TS, you are seriously misinformed.
Your hit rate before taking account the level difference will not exceed 100%.
It doesn't matter how much accuracy you have, you're still going to miss on things with levels higher than yours.
Hit rate is: sqrt(playeraccuracy) - sqrt(mobavoid) + 100
Take away 5% for every level.
You will basically only be killing things your level or lower anyway regardless of your accuracy.
DEXless IS the way to go post revamp due to how absurdly easy it is to get accuracy.
Because accuracy is hard to get from potentials amirite TS?
Look the formula says you still need accuracy. But get this, DEX is 1.2acc, LUk is 0.8ACC, Mastery gives +60 acc, all this is after BB. Trust me you won't need dex.
[quote=Phlem]Quit spitting lies about things you know nothing about. As long as you fight monsters equal to or lower than your level, you have a 100% hit rate. And even monsters 3 or 4 levels ahead of you are fairly easy to train on. Dex is no longer required for warriors.[/quote]
You have an 80% hit rate, you still need the same accuracy as the monsters avoid.
... partly correct.
The thing is, mastery gives 60 acc for all classes, Zhelm gives 20acc, and... that's pretty much all the acc you need for, like, ever o.0