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[quote=xxfalconxx30]So wait. I'm 127, I have 20 on ST, 1 on barrage, 1 on Demo, 1 on DS and 1 on SI. after maxing Demo (or not) should I add to orb instead of dragon strike?[/quote]

No. Orb before 27ish+ does not compare with dragon strike. It is also much worse for training unless under the right conditions. (small map, dense spawn, ability to bounce to other platforms)

So wait. I'm 127, I have 20 on ST, 1 on barrage, 1 on Demo, 1 on DS and 1 on SI. after maxing Demo (or not) should I add to orb instead of dragon strike?

[quote=one23abc]Orb? Isnt that like 720% x 6? Thats like 20% more dmg... For 30 sp?[/quote]

780% damage i believe. After restructuring/chaos, orb is being buffed to 980%, and dragon strike is being buffed to 850%. Orb at that point is stronger in every way compared to DS. Orb now is only stronger than dragon strike so long as you are hitting more targets. At HT and zak arms, hitting 6 targets is practically a guarantee with orb. With DS i think you can hit 4 targets constantly at the most.

[quote=Takeback3r]Snatch is not useless. There is a very significant use that comes with snatch...but that usefulness caps out at 4+ targets. It's damage is quite high though, even at level 1.

Actually, you know what. I'll just be an asshole. DUCKIESMILES IS WRONG IN EVERY WAY. <3

@ TS: Go for orb or MW 19. Orb if you want to zak/HT better, and later on train faster on beowolfs. MW for a general damage boost.[/quote]

Orb? Isnt that like 720% x 6? Thats like 20% more dmg... For 30 sp?

Snatch is not useless. There is a very significant use that comes with snatch...but that usefulness caps out at 4+ targets. It's damage is quite high though, even at level 1.

Actually, you know what. I'll just be an asshole. DUCKIESMILES IS WRONG IN EVERY WAY. <3

@ TS: Go for orb or MW 19. Orb if you want to zak/HT better, and later on train faster on beowolfs. MW for a general damage boost.

20 seconds isn't worth wasting ~29 SP for on barrage
Personally I'd go energy blast

What did you max after DS? I have 22 SP remaining and I don't know what to put it in ._.
I'm thinking either demo or revenge?

[quote=DuckieSmiles]Snatch is worthless. You MUST max barrage since its a useful attack skill that's great for bossing. Demo is better but it's limited use, so you can't use it all the time.[/quote]

thanks this is a very helpful post
also I sometimes use barrage during training because demo takes too long to use
max barrage will help when i move onto oblivion maps

yup, agreed with DuckieSmiles, you need something to use for 20 seconds when you wait for ST

[quote=one23abc]I maxed revenge already, sorry didnt put it in[/quote]

In that case, just save SP until you have enough for MW 20. I actually decided to mess with energy orb after MW20...can't say it's very promising but I think it's somewhat more useful than either Barrage or Snatch in my opinion.

[quote=PlayThatMelody]Max revenge. Maple Warrior 20 can come after that.[/quote]

I maxed revenge already, sorry didnt put it in

Max revenge. Maple Warrior 20 can come after that.

Almost no need for Barrage since Demolition just about replaces it and snatch is...not too useful in my opinion considering Dragon Strike does a better job at wiping out mobs.

Si or Maple warrior?