Question regarding religous beliefs extremists only
I've been seeing a lot of people on here who seem very angry that people don't share there opinions, why is that? Lets say there's an atheist and someone says they believe in god; how does that effect the atheist in every day life? Vice versa for any other religion. Why do Christians try to convert people after they have told you "no"? Does them burning in hell for all eternity effect you? I think not.
Why must atheists continue to blast down anyone who believes in God or anyone who goes to church; does them being ignorant to your beliefs effect you?
From what I can gather the whole sense of the extremist view is essentially this:
Extremist:"Hey! You can't eat that donut!"
Regular person:"Why not?"
Extremist:"Because I'm on a diet!"
Regular person:"But me eating it won't make you fa.."
Extremist:"NO YOU CAN'T EAT IT!"*rips donut out of regular persons hand and throws it in the trash, and then proceeds to light trashcan on fire*
Can somebody please explain the logic in the extremist view; why does what someone else think effect you in anyway? Also do not answer with a childish answer like "Because they started it!" I want real logic behind your answers.
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[quote=PcPls123]ex·trem·ist   [ik-stree-mist] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person who goes to extremes, especially in political matters.
2.
a supporter or advocate of extreme doctrines or practices.
If an extremist didn't act in an extreme way they wouldn't be extremist. Understand the logic? A cat wouldn't meow if it wasn't a cat.[/quote]
I don't think you understand the question: I'm saying what makes extremists think what someone else believes will effect them
Extremists cannot comprehend the idea that someone has different ideas and experiences with something, so they superimpose their own over theirs. Also they feel negativity whenever someone doesn't share the same thoughts as them because they are somehow always right.
That's why you see a Christian damning an atheist to hell even though the atheist is probably a decent human being, and an atheist assumptively proclaiming a Christian is stupid for not believing in science and questioning their beliefs, even though it's probably not true in the first place.
[quote=primalfurey]if that was extremist in your eyes 9/11 must have been equal to the end of days for you.
untill action is taken nothing is extremist, words can't blow buildings up or shoot people.[/quote]
They're more levels to extremism; Blowing up an abortion clinic and 9/11 both are extreme, however 9/11 outweighs the abortion clinic
And again: By definition action is not required for someone to be an extremist.
If a 36 year old person goes up to a 7 year old child and starts yelling in their face about how they're going to burn in hell for the rest of eternity because they're an ignorant child who does not praise Jesus. That's pretty extreme; even though no action was taken.
[quote=primalfurey]@Randomness411: and now he has taken an extreme action, think your threads out before posting them.[/quote]
In my mind the "NO YOU CANNOT EAT IT" implies action, as did to everyone else.
Also might I point out by definition "extremist" does not mean action.
[quote=primalfurey]your extremist hasn't ripped the doughnut out of his hand, he hasn't interfered with him physically. He has not denied him of anything.
he has only voiced an opinion, for your extremist to be extremist he must do something extreme.[/quote]
There, he has now ripped the donut out of his hand and thrown it in the trash can and then lit said trashcan on fire.
Now he has physically denied him of eating a donut.
@Askmiller You probably gave me the best answer so far
[quote=primalfurey]@Randomness411: but your so called extremist hasnt done anything more then what you are doing right now.
stop being extremist, you extremist.[/quote]
Yeah because asking a question and denying somebody the right to eat a donut are the same thing.
[quote=primalfurey]in your dougnut scenario there is only discussion, you dieter did not pull out a glock and put 3 round into mr dougnuts face.
discussion is not extremist.[/quote]
If you read closely you can see that the extremist forbid the regular person for eating the donut, which is pretty extreme considering it won't effect the extremist in any way that would make them go against their diet.
I'm not an atheist extremist, but whenever someone says somethings on the lines of
"Religion and atheism are all theories"
"The earth is 6000 years old"
"You will go to hell for believing in that!"
etc etc
I feel obligated to blast that ignorance away.
On the other hand, when someone is going through a rough time and says something along the lines of, "what I do to ease the suffering is turn to god" then it doesn't bother me as much.
[quote=primalfurey]and telling someone of your beleifs is not extremist.
nor is pressing the matter when someone says they wish to be ignorant of what you're saying.[/quote]
No I guess blowing up an abortion clinic to get the point across that "killing babies is wrong" is completely right since they're trying to get their point across.
Burning books because it has main characters that don't believe in what you believe in is totally ok because you want to get the point across that "My opinions are right".
Refusing blood transfusion because it is "evil" when it could save your life makes sense because "It's evil to put someone else blood inside me"
Not extreme at all.
Because you can hide behind your keyboard. Most "extremist" on Basil are not devot in their beliefs.
[quote=MagiBombchu]>Logic
>Extremist
Choose one.[/quote]
Alright I chose the extremist answer to how it effects them if I don't give a damn what they try to tell me
@primalfurey I don't remember defining extremist; but if I must I would say it is someone who goes too far.
And in this case going too far to try to get their opinion accepted
OMG THE DONUT ANALOGY. LOGICAL FALLACY. That is a faulty comparison because I dont think God is real thus he is not.
Wat.
I feel ya, it's ridiculous. It's suppsoed to "enlighten" ignorance by spreading your own views so I'm going to take my ideas and shove them up your ass and down your throat until you finally accept my doctrine!
[quote=PcPls123]Because they are extremist....obviously.[/quote]
Again: Please explain it in a LOGICAL way.