Christians, just a few questions about hell
I don't believe in Christianity. Do you really believe I will suffer in hell for all of eternity? Do you think I deserve that? I mean, the number of Christians worldwide isn't very exact, but it would be safe to say there are at least 1 billion people who think I will suffer in hell for all eternity... do you think the billions of people who DON'T practice Christianity really deserve that? Seems hard to believe an all-knowing and all-loving God would allow this.
And since I know none of you know anything about how I live my life, I'll use an example you're probably all familiar with... Mohandas Gandhi. He was a Hindu and he lived his life a very kind, peaceful person. Because he practice Hinduism instead of Christianity, do you think he is suffering in hell right now? Do you think he deserves that?
Or do you think something different than "all non-Christians are going to hell"?
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[quote=daniel3b]Or do you think something different than "all non-Christians are going to hell"?[/quote]
Impossible, the bible says it's so, and according to some basilers, it was written by God and Jesus. They sat down together with some pens and made it a father-son outing to record our history for us apparently.
I'm an agnostic but if God does exist, my idea of him is that whether you go to heaven or hell depends on how you live your life instead of whether you have faith or not because he wouldn't be self centered but instead wise and fair to all whether they're a believer or not I guess. Of course I'm just saying this for the case that their is a God, it would be illogical to shun all his non believing children that he spent the time creating and send them to hell just because their not a believer. But anywho.. no one really knows what the big mans thinking sooo its all a mystery i guess lol
According to the big man in the sky, we all get mansions [The Invention of Lieing]
Nah do not believe that stuff man
I may be Christian-ish(i even got confirmed) but i dont believe anyone will go to hell
besides the evil doers who do not forgive or regret
also Gandhi is nice guy i respect him
but i think i may go to hell for fun(strange idea)
[quote=reidxsora]God only sends people to hell if you have done a very great sin no matter what your religion is.[/quote]
Hi apparantly expert of all religions o.O
God only sends people to hell if you have done a very great sin no matter what your religion is.
[quote=hoopla123]In the Bible, Jesus said, you must go through me to meet my father your god (or something along that text). Anyways, non-christians IMO would go to h3ll because of what the Bible says and you do not believe in niether Jesus nor God so I don't know how you would get in but then again I'm not God nor Jesus. And to all people saying there is no sin god can't forgive, however there is one. The Bible says during one of Paul's Missions that God will not forgive those who insult the holy spirit.[/quote]
what he said.
i'm surprised that nobody has mentioned purgatory or "limbo" yet. i think that non believers of god go there to be judged and then be sent to either heaven or hell right?
Hell is being on earth being pressured into believing in non-existent deities.
[quote=MaikuX3]What disgustingly amazes me the most is that there are fundamental Christians who have the belief of everyone being a horrible person and the only way to be saved is to follow a prophet believed to God, to the point where their faith share things in common with the Taliban. When they believe someone like Mohandas Gandhi is in hell for being a Hindu dispite being the closest man to bring world peace, and then believe somene like Jeffery Dahmer is in heaven for bering a Born-Again Christian dispite raping, touturing, and murdering 17 men and boys while practicing necrophilia and cannibalism....then there is a freaking problem with the question of morality within the religion. Condoning the message of "do whatever bad things you want in your life cause you are a bad person anyways, as long as you are truely sorry for them later on" does NOT promote good values to me.
Thankfully the majority of Christians (especially Catholics) do not share the same view as those extremists and believes people like Ghandi is in heaven for his good deeds and believes people like Dahmer is in hell for his immoral actions. [/quote]
Again with the hypocrisy.
Why are you mentioning just Christians?
Have you ever been to the majority of Muslim countries?
Texan Rednecks seem like Dutch homosexuals compared to a "moderate" Muslim in Muslim countries.
[quote=MaikuX3]What disgustingly amazes me the most is that there are fundamental Christians who have the belief of everyone being a horrible person and the only way to be saved is to follow a prophet believed to God, to the point where their faith share things in common with the Taliban. When they believe someone like Mohandas Gandhi is in hell for being a Hindu dispite being the closest man to bring world peace, and then believe somene like Jeffery Dahmer is in heaven for bering a Born-Again Christian dispite raping, touturing, and murdering 17 men and boys while practicing necrophilia and cannibalism....then there is a freaking problem with the question of morality within the religion. Condoning the message of "do whatever bad things you want in your life cause you are a bad person anyways, as long as you are truely sorry for them later on" does NOT promote good values to me.
Thankfully the majority of Christians (especially Catholics) do not share the same view as those extremists and believes people like Ghandi is in heaven for his good deeds and believes people like Dahmer is in hell for his immoral actions. [/quote]
MAIKUUUU *Hug-hug, kiss-kiss and *something that should not be mentioned in this forum**
omg there is so much people over here you say they're Atheists or Agnostics but yet they're probably like 12 years old. Most of the people don't even know about Atheists, Agnostics, etc but still complain.
[quote=dracomann07]This is the essence of Christianity. The Devil believes in God too but he certainly won't be going to heaven.[/quote]
Wouldn't the devil be stupid then? Why believe in something that has thrown you en hell?something that you've met and spoken with? xD
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23)
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)
In short, I think that if a person were to repent of their sin would get into heaven. Even if you believed in the Christian God, it is not enough, to be honest. It has been said to confess your sin and accept that Jesus died for you.
juuuuuuuussssss' saying.
[quote=devilskin]So if not believing in god isn't a sin, which means it's not hell-material, why be religious in the first place?[/quote]
you've noticed,I mention the Torah which means I'm talking about Judaism,and that's when the "Chosen ones" gets into act;if you've thought people converted to Judaism since old times then you're wrong.
According to tthe Torah,the Chosen ones are supposed to carry the burden of observing "Taryag Mitzvot" (613 commandments) while the gentiles are supposed to keep the [url=http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%A2_%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%99_%D7%A0%D7%97]Seven Laws of Noah[/url].
[quote=RawrImLion]I'm a Christian but I don't believe you should suffer simply because you are not Christian. If you are a good person in life, then yes I would assume you go to Heaven.[/quote]
Mark 16:15-16
15 He(Jesus) said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
[quote=daniel3b]So it's too confusing questioning your religion, so you'll just mindlessly believe what you are told to believe?
And btw one of the commandments is to keep holy the sabbath day... seems to me like, by choosing not to go to church, you're not respecting that commandment well.[/quote]
I choose myself what to believe in, and that was Christianity, however, after a few years of deep though (having similar thoughts like you), I had discovered that we humans are designed to live. Not to start mortifying ourselves with such questions like that, that most likely cannot be solved. And the only way to know is the natural way we all know, that's called dying or death. That's when we know if such things are real (the things that the Holy Bible promises us from Heaven).
And as for the second one, I gotta admit I find stupid going to a man-made place to invoke God. Therefore, I just invoke it in my heart by praying all by myself. As said once by my teacher, we're all the church, the place we go to, to invoke God as a group of people it's called a Temple. But I, myself like to be alone when invoking him. No, we don't have to go to a Temple. People are the church, hence the phrase: The church is the house of God. Meaning, our hearts. (I don't know if they say it like that in English because since my native language is Spanish I just translate the Spanish sentences in English with the normal translation.)
Most people, (and even me, before I started understanding things) make the same mistake to think that the Church is the place we go, to pray to God, and also mistaking it for a synonym of Temple.
I'm sorry but, this is as far as my Christian knowledge goes, since I'm still too young, and it's not like I read about these stuff, as already stated I'm a non-activist.
[quote=Natsumicla]I, myself, am a proud non-active Christian catholic (means I don't often go to church), and I believe in a supreme being up there called God.
I was taught all this by my very religious teacher and I gotta admit it can be confusing, so I decided to stop thinking about these stuff and just start living the life as it should be and wait until death, that's where you know what happens after it.
By the way, I'm just 14.
I also remember mortifying myself over those religious things, and sleepless nights. They suck.[/quote]So it's too confusing questioning your religion, so you'll just mindlessly believe what you are told to believe?
And btw one of the commandments is to keep holy the sabbath day... seems to me like, by choosing not to go to church, you're not respecting that commandment well.
It's called faith. You don't have to understand it. Good people go to Heaven. Bad people go to hell. Bad people who, before death, they regret everything they did, yes, they go to Heaven. Just live your life, and remember to, every time you do something bad, regret it (in case you do regret it) by praying to God. Of course, that, assuming if you believe if there's a God up there.
Assuming there's one of course.
I, myself, am a proud non-active Christian catholic (means I don't often go to church), and I believe in a supreme being up there called God.
I was taught all this by my very religious teacher and I gotta admit it can be confusing, so I decided to stop thinking about these stuff and just start living the life as it should be and wait until death, that's where you know what happens after it.
By the way, I'm just 14.
I also remember mortifying myself over those religious things, and sleepless nights. They suck.
I think, as @RawrImLion said, that if you're a good person morally, and do good for others and all that (you can see the idea), then I think God would give you a chance to recognize/acknowledge him before your judgement... but that's just my thoughts.
[quote=LeechLess]How are we supposed to answer this? Are we god?[/quote] o.o I asked if you THINK I will go to hell, or if you think I deserve to go to hell just because I'm not religious... I don't think you would need to be God to have an opinion
How are we supposed to answer this? Are we god?
You go to hell if you acted bad against mankind. God doesn't care if you believe or not.
[quote=Zigen]all people go to hell even the christians
thats why my goal in life is to never die[/quote]
Live forever or die trying? amg we hav da same goals!
It's not true that all non-Christians go to Hell.
G-d damnit,not only Christians believe in hell,okay?
Make it relevant for all Abrahamic religion:Christianity,Islam and Judaism.
I believe that I don't care,but NOT believing in god isn't a sin in the Torah as far as I recall,only having another god over g-d is a sin.
EDIT:
I guess Ghandi is in heaven for being nice and all but I sincerely do believe he deserved to die,India would've been a part of Pakistan by now if he hadn't been assassinated.
Repent!
just get reconstructive surgery through cybernetics and bioengineering, easy, now your only half-mortal.
[quote=Zigen]all people go to hell even the christians
thats why my goal in life is to never die[/quote]
You my friend sound just like Voldemort.
OT: The Catholic church believes whether a person is a atheist or not, they either go to hell or heaven.