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[quote=JoeBlazed]LMAO first of all i have all of those classes Corsair, Jett, have the same abilities and with all my equips on them i have a 60k range, my mech [b]AMOST HALVE[/b] you obviously have no clue of which you speak . As i said my Mech is 170 and i have a 1333 Merc 20k range buffed nothing maxed Ishtar Ring at 90% and yet i hit 40x2 no boos % or ignore % added that the class already has. Do you even have the classes you are comparing? Over Clock does nothing if you don't have over 80k+ range. Plus the dumb@$$ comment about stance every class has stance shut up about it. You know nothing of the Mech class why are you here? HP - decent DEF - SUCKS Passive skills we only have 50 atk . . . THATS IT every other class has twice that plus I'm only talking resistance i under stand if you skimmed most people have problems reading. Cannoneers are mobers ENOUGH SAID Mechs are suppose to be 1v1 your comment is invalid. You really have no clue do you? Mech damage sucks since siege is our skill that is for bossing.

Oh and Mercs have 28DPS, AFA hits twice, they have defense lowering skills (one doubles damage on bosses), summon doesn't have a cool down when attaking ( as long as you are near the monster it will attack right upon return)

Mechs 23DPS, summon has 5 second cool down, robots never go after monsters as description suggest ( usually 5-8 will hit if opponent is not stationary )

you should never have an opinion[/quote]

What an embarrassing post. Mechanics are awesome.

[quote=AdmiralJett]I dont like mechs they are so slow lmao[/quote]

Really? o.o
I find my Mech to be pretty quick and Mobile with dash on a super short delay...
And teleporters for bigger maps...
And Rocket jump for Vertical...

And as for the weak question?

I have ~15% Dex on my Mech, and some decent attack equips
lvl 102
10k base range
13k overclocked
15k overclocked + rolled 5

I hit 15-17k per line with siege

I think that damage is pretty good 1v1

and I hit ~25k crits with Rocket fist?

I think it's pretty strong, but that's just me

There is no such thing as a "bad" class. Only spoiled players.

@Anthoy84:

Basically this.
I'd also like to point out that he said +50 atk is nothing. This guy is hilarious.
@JoeBlazed :
Another thing, I don't think this guy has played a Mechanic after the revamp, because..
120%+30% --> 150%*~24hps = 3600%/s
Let's say your Mech has a 20k range, which is pretty easy to get.
20,000*150% = 30,000*~24hps = ~720k/s
Now that's for an unfunded Mechanic.. and if you think 720k/s isn't a lot for someone who's unfunded.. check again.

Oh, by the way, before you post, please check your grammar and spelling. It really irritates me when I try to read something that someone obviously half-assed just to get his or her argument in.

@JoeBlazed I'm sorry, but I didn't know 6x4/second = 23hps. wat

[quote=Anthoy84]"Every class has stance" What is wrong with you? Only two classes have 100% Stance, being Demon Slayers and Mechanics. Warriors/Battle Mages only get 95%, Mages get ~40-50% with max Infinity[/quote]

Corrections: Warrior's Power Stance gives 100%, Battle Mage's Stance gives 90% and Mage's Infinity gives 50% (70% for F/P).

[quote=JoeBlazed]LMAO first of all i have all of those classes Corsair, Jett, have the same abilities and with all my equips on them i have a 60k range, my mech [b]AMOST HALVE[/b] you obviously have no clue of which you speak . As i said my Mech is 170 and i have a 1333 Merc 20k range buffed nothing maxed Ishtar Ring at 90% and yet i hit 40x2 no boos % or ignore % added that the class already has. Do you even have the classes you are comparing? Over Clock does nothing if you don't have over 80k+ range. Plus the dumb@$$ comment about stance every class has stance shut up about it. You know nothing of the Mech class why are you here? HP - decent DEF - SUCKS Passive skills we only have 50 atk . . . THATS IT every other class has twice that plus I'm only talking resistance i under stand if you skimmed most people have problems reading. Cannoneers are mobers ENOUGH SAID Mechs are suppose to be 1v1 your comment is invalid. You really have no clue do you? Mech damage sucks since siege is our skill that is for bossing.

Oh and Mercs have 28DPS, AFA hits twice, they have defense lowering skills (one doubles damage on bosses), summon doesn't have a cool down when attaking ( as long as you are near the monster it will attack right upon return)

Mechs 23DPS, summon has 5 second cool down, robots never go after monsters as description suggest ( usually 5-8 will hit if opponent is not stationary )

you should never have an opinion[/quote]

Quite the opposite, my friend. You are the one who shouldn't have an opinion, because of how horrifyingly misinformed you are.

You accuse others of being unable to compare classes because they do not have a character of that class, yet you claim that Mechanics are the worst of the resistance (Wild Hunters say hello).

@Aaaayee explicitly said that Mechs have a harder time achieving a higher range, why is that so hard for you to believe? Also, how does a +30% damage skill "do nothing unless you have an 80k range"? A boost like that would benefit anyone.

Your 133 (assuming, because obviously you don't have a 1333) Mercedes has max Ishtar's Ring and claims to hit 40ks with a 20k range? I call BS all over this, because nobody is stupid enough to max IR first (plus you listed the incorrect %damage values).

"Every class has stance" What is wrong with you? Only two classes have 100% Stance, being Demon Slayers and Mechanics. Warriors/Battle Mages only get 95%, Mages get ~40-50% with max Infinity, and Wild Hunters only get that 100% if they have the Snow White mount. Stance plays a HUGE role in damage output.

Don't complain about what you perceive as "crappy DPS". It's actually great, defeating most "Hurricane-type skill" users in terms of damage output.

Again, you should not have an opinion on something that you are so misinformed on.

@JoeBlazed:

If it was 200-230%*~24hps they'd be way too OP. Ishtar is only 110%*~28hps (which is indeed counting AFA and the two hits,) but they have a hard time getting high ranges, so it's understandable. With Mechanics, high/average ranges are so easy to get, what with Overclock, the mount, and that first job skill that adds %damage. Not to mention we also have Magnums, Mechanic parts that are scrollable, awesome mobility, amazing summons, and a Laser that has great %, (please, do not compare it to what Corsairs, Jetts, and Buccs have, because those classes are hard to get high ranges..), the Laser is also equivalent to Cannoneers, which most people say are OP, and they have WAY worse 1v1 than Mechanics do. Also, your "every class is [i]better[/i]" statement is totally invalid. We have a decent amount of HP and DEF, not to mention we get some from the mount and some passives AND a counterattack AND 100% stance.

Anyways, I'm not saying Mechanics are 100% godly super uber OP kawaii chi-you get my point. I'm just saying that they are strong enough to not have people complain about their damage being too low. It's fine where it is, and if they do give it a buff, it'd be 130% --> 145%/150%. Wouldn't that be fair enough to please you?

[quote=JoeBlazed]i have a 32k range buffed with siege I do about 60k if your the type that puts a lot of funding to a char it can be beneficial nut you will never hit max damage most likely 350-450k with 160k range siege damages really needs an increase 130 isnt enough[/quote]

130%*~24hps isn't enough for you?

@sidleyhatesyou: I know you have some reason I just wanted to say that

[quote=PurplePenguins]bandwagoner[/quote]

Not really, I just got back to maple and I don't want to play my jett.. what can I say lol...

Other post, I don't want to play the fresh outta the box classes

bandwagoner