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[quote=Xbl1tz3rX]Can anyone confirm a 100 CB living in a czak run? Or, what lvl do I have to be to survive? Remember that meso guard cuts damage by 50%.

I know this is the mage section, but it's still about surviving czak[/quote]

You 100% will die.

Can anyone confirm a 100 CB living in a czak run? Or, what lvl do I have to be to survive? Remember that meso guard cuts damage by 50%.

I know this is the mage section, but it's still about surviving czak

@above: already had auto pet heal hp/mp, and maxing hero's will doesn't sound like a bad idea. Thanks

[quote=sasuke1521]I Lol'd. Your post just made my day.

@IImaplers Noob scary bears with scary range dyeing is just pro.[/quote]

Like, I'm to low of a lvl or are you thinking se---lly? (Is it bankable to say that?)

[quote=Xbl1tz3rX]Man czak sounds tough o_o Do you think a 133 bishop or a 100 chief dit could last long enough to loot a helm?[/quote]

I Lol'd. Your post just made my day.

@IImaplers Noob scary bears with scary range dyeing is just pro.

Man czak sounds tough o_o Do you think a 133 bishop or a 100 chief dit could last long enough to loot a helm?

@IImaplers: F4

[quote=Yansen]seduce+dispell magic guard means you die[/quote]

That's exactly how I died

yeah decent HB doesn't get dispelled, and seduce+dispell magic guard means you die

[quote=sasuke1521]Dispel is the last of your worries.
1) Make sure you watch out for dispel
2) Make sure you have max hero's will or well level 1 works but just pray he doesn't seduce you while it's in cool down.
3) Make sure you get 4-5 wheels of destiny
5) Try to get decent HB since it doesn't get dispelled
6) As for pots well depends on your expedition if they take LONG then get around 1.8k ginger ales or so, if it's fast I guess 1k would do[/quote]

Wow, decent HB cannot get dispelled? That's weird o.O, and thank you

Dispel is the last of your worries.
1) Make sure you watch out for dispel
2) Make sure you have max hero's will or well level 1 works but just pray he doesn't seduce you while it's in cool down.
3) Make sure you get 4-5 wheels of destiny
5) Try to get decent HB since it doesn't get dispelled
6) As for pots well depends on your expedition if they take LONG then get around 1.8k ginger ales or so, if it's fast I guess 1k would do

[quote=archxever]Its not. Dispel Occurs more frequently during arms than body sooo... Your best bet would be to spam Fairy most of the time until your team get rid of the dispels arms (Which i don't remember where they are) then you could start attacking more frequently. During body Dispel doesn't happen as frequently during arms so i think if you are vigilant it should not be too hard to have fairy up all the time.

Last option its to wait till GMS has the pet equip that let your pet spam ONE of your buff skills automatically when its down.[/quote]

This is very helpful! thanks for the advice

Its not. Dispel Occurs more frequently during arms than body sooo... Your best bet would be to spam Fairy most of the time until your team get rid of the dispels arms (Which i don't remember where they are) then you could start attacking more frequently. During body Dispel doesn't happen as frequently during arms so i think if you are vigilant it should not be too hard to have fairy up all the time.

Last option its to wait till GMS has the pet equip that let your pet spam ONE of your buff skills automatically when its down.

@Sistine: I remember being hit for 7-8k during arms at this level during one of my last Czak Runs. Considering im a Paladin with 6k wdef and about 2-3k mdef (I think). Also if im not wrong all 8 arms were "Threathened" but it doesn't work unless its a Physical Attack (ThT doesn't Reduce the Magic Damage you receive or the Magic Damage you inflict, sry mages)

[quote=electro791]u can survive it at your level u only died cause it dispelled u... there is like no avoiding that xd[/quote]
So, in other words, buy a ton of wheels and hope to kill czak before all your cubes run out? lol
[quote=archxever]From what i know, Dispel Isn't tied to any Kind of atack now, It just happen and you get dispelled so tanking arms its a bad idea.[/quote]
Now I'm confused lol. I know pre-BB I used to tank left-pianus to avoid getting dispelled and it worked out fine, but I need a few confirmation on whether tanking czak arms is a good idea or not for mages.

From what i know, Dispel Isn't tied to any Kind of atack now, It just happen and you get dispelled so tanking arms its a bad idea.

[quote=jj299]These people are poorly misinformed. Just stand on an arm and youll never get dispelled on arms. Only chance is if bishop has to go > to heal seduced.[/quote]

Thanks, that's pretty helpful. So, I'll have to tank the arms to prevent from being dispelled(?). Hmm, but what about after getting seduced? I can see where tons of HP would be desired.

[quote=Mschirano]You need around 6k hp, dont factor in hb it will be dispelled.[/quote]

Jeesh that's a heck of a lot. Guess I'd need to use a master adv medal+rex earrings+czak helm+HP washing+etc. Sounds like more trouble than it's worth.

Well, I went and survived exactly 2 minutes of it (having 3.3K HP). 2 wheels wasted rofl. The constant dispel and seduce is what got me and the 2 bishops died before they could save me rofl. We really should've bought at least 1 DrK for HB. Out of like 15 people, only 3 or 4 survived long enough to kill the whole thing and had to use bunches of wheels to do so.

What about the HP required?

You can expect to be dispeled every 3 to 6 secs. at least during arms, in body it seems its less frequent.

Thanks guys

That's amazing writing for an iPod.

I have no clue about Chaos Zakum, but I'm picturing a nerfed Pink Bean kind of challenge.