Lifetime Prison Sentence for 12-Year-Old
So I guess this kid(12 at the time) was sent to life for killing his 2 year old brother
but the thing is,
his mom was 12 when she had him
had a 25 year old father who abused his mother (and was sent to prison)
and physically abused by his stepfather
with a drug abusing grandma
and was sexually abused by a cousin
[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57514490-504083/cristian-fernandez-13-year-old-fla-boy-faces-life-in-prison-for-allegedly-murdering-his-2-year-old-half-brother/]source[/url]
Personally he should recieve punishment for his actions, but i think this kid doesn't need time in prison, he needs some INTENSE 1 on 1 rehab for like 15 years.
because...his family is [b]messed[/b] up. I mean maybe the kid just wanted to save his brother from going through the same thing.
Discuss? (e.g do you think the kid deserves his punishment?)
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the relationships are messy </3
I don't think there's a clear right or wrong action. Rehabilitation would be ideal, but it probably wouldn't work. This story is just sad all over.
"The boy learned to squelch his feelings, once telling a counselor 'You got to suck up feelings and get over it.'" Like most human beings he probably has felt empathy of some sort before, just subconsciously got rid of them or never developed it because honestly, when you have such a hard life they're not going to help you as much.
there's not really much that could be done...somebody like that needs to be put away, at least for the safety of others.
I guess you could try to rehab him, but it looks like he's already too far gone lol
EDIT: @BladeSoul69 nope, he's hispanic.
@blueflammes I don't think so, he could probably get no sentence at all since he is only 12, and is unable to form the mens rea. Or does that only apply to children that are younger than 12 and not 12 and younger? Can't remember.
sounds like this is in texas for some reason
With a previous abuse to that extent in his life time, anyone would go insane. But i agree the kid should get some [b]INTENSE[/b] Rehab for a long time. I don't even think the kid himself knows what he's charged for and the right and laws.. I'm interested to see how this case moves forward..
The kid should face lifetime prison. Who knows the child might continue the murder.
Well, he shouldn't be sentenced to life... older, better raised people have been put in jail for less time for doing worse things...
[quote=fraddBS]He murdered somebody, and a 12 year old definitely should know about the consequences.
It's not as if he was a 4 year old that accidentally shot somebody. He was freakin' 12. 12 year olds aren't [i]that[/i] ignorant.[/quote]
ur thinking back when YOU were 12 you had morals of what was right and wrong, if you were sexually abused, beaten, abandoned and unloved all your life never taught morals would you know "right" and "wrong"? where would he learn these morals? from his crackhead grandmother or teen mom? step in someone else shoes dude.
Yah. Being in prison at that age will just ruin his life even more. He'll be picked on and used by the other inmates
You kill someone to save him from something?
Wonderous
@qtprincessxoxo: Oooh.. there are many things in our judicial system that are counterproductive.. I'm more for rehabilitating him though.
12 year old and deserving a lighter punishment solely because he's underaged. That's bull, and everyone who agrees with that can watch my foot entering their ass. He killed someone, he sexually abused someone -- to prison with him. We have enough of people like him already, when will it be time for our world to convert into one big world embracing peace.
@tomshv: There is no point really, but him being a kid he deserves a chance to learn and think for himself while being rehabilitated. It's not up to us to decide if he's going to be a cooperative citizen, that'll be on him. If he fails to produce results he won't be eligible for parole and our tax money can be spent feeding him like all the other incarcerated persons in this country.
@tomshv: No, don't put him jail before rehabilitating him, that's a really bad idea. What's wrong with you? Derp. Any opinion is bad really, I just don't want the kid to go without training and a chance to learn that killing other people is not desirable.
@tomshv: 'I did not enlist to do good things, I enlisted to do American things'.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TirDWabE-Ig]3:56[/url].
OT: In all honesty though I see this as more a question of ethics based on what we're a part of, not of what I believe. I do believe prison will screw him up, but based on the proceedings he has the next 20 something years to think of his training through rehabilitation.
Rehabilitate him while he's serving his prison sentence. [i]Por que a la dos?[/i]
Oh wait, I forgot prison's don't really do that kind of useful stuff.
@tomshv: Because reasons, he still isn't absolved for murdering his brother. Justice must be served, along with pudding.
[quote=Fiercerain]I'd stay try to rehabilitate him, when he turns 18 send him to prison for 10 years and evaluate him if he's okay for parole past that.[/quote]
that's actually a really good idea honestly, if not the best that I've heard. I just hope the boy hasn't gone past the point of being saved.
[quote=WontPostMuch]I think he's just gone at this point. To be perfectly blunt, it may be best for everyone if he's just sentenced to death if he doesn't show signs of rehabilitation after a couple of years. I mean, stuff like that may just be impossible to get over/too traumatic at that age to have permanently damaged his psyche. If that's the case, then there really isn't much else to do. No point in keeping an angry, bitter, resentful person alive if he poses such risks to society. Hell, the person probably isn't happy with their own life so...[/quote]
Just say it, he's a waste of resources to keep alive
I think he's just gone at this point. To be perfectly blunt, it may be best for everyone if he's just sentenced to death if he doesn't show signs of rehabilitation after a couple of years. I mean, stuff like that may just be impossible to get over/too traumatic at that age to have permanently damaged his psyche. If that's the case, then there really isn't much else to do. No point in keeping an angry, bitter, resentful person alive if he poses such risks to society. Hell, the person probably isn't happy with their own life so...
[quote=Fiercerain]I'd stay try to rehabilitate him, when he turns 18 send him to prison for 10 years and evaluate him if he's okay for parole past that.[/quote]
This. He was raised in an abusive environment his entire life, his actions weren't 100% based off of his own intentions.
Killing people is wrong. he souldent have done that.
I think for killing he should go to jail. I just wish someone saved him from that fdmily and gave him therapy. In his mind what he did was probably something like what you said, TS.
All-in-all, I feel bad for him.
Too bad he doesn't live in Canada.
If his mother is 14 and he is 13...wtf
Lack of discipline in family.
I'd say try to rehabilitate him, when he turns 18 send him to prison for 10 years and evaluate him if he's okay for parole past that.
hahaahaha i remember when i thought my life sucked.