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again, drk's stun only last 1-2sec, and stun chance is only 60%.

Doom can be scary in pvp too bad i lag...

[quote=ranbir34]people still pvp?[/quote]
Yes, problem?

people still pvp?

UA DrK is really good. Dragon roar has a 9 second stun with only a 10 sec cooldown, and soul driver is quite good. DI is an excellent mobbing skill. PLus we have dragon wisdom to heal heal heal. Dont forget magic crash

lol. you said dbs are op because of Awsomeist i believe?
Once you know the tricks, his hits are very easy to dodge.
Honestly, i recommend cannoneer/evan/ds.
Cannoneer-op for their counters+summons+high hits
Evans-tanky+high dmg(you can just abuse dark fog and illusion)
Bishops-you can't really pass 1k without get to high lvs without funding

A Demon slayer who knows what to do can easily reach 2k without any battle mode att (buff->demon cry->spam demon impact->die>repeat). The exception is when I am there ~

bucc, post too short.

[quote=Saltybandaid]@hyperfreak: pffft, VividSkyway is a nub. ;([/quote]

ahahaha you nub.

@hyperfreak: pffft, VividSkyway is a nub. ;(

@Saltybandaid: oh hi Mr.In denial.

[quote=hyperfreak]@LazyLotad: I'm actually friends with our in-denial best Paladin in Windia
and if that was a year and a half ago then that was possibly pre-revamp meaning Paladins were invincible back then since ALL jobs were tanky.
@Valtorec Demon Slayers? good laugh.[/quote]

In-denial best paladin in Windia?
Whodat? 030

OT: Any mage class, and cannon shooters.
F/p's are a little trippy to get the hang of, but once you do they're amazing.
i/L's are like F/p's on easy mode but they're kind of map reliant due to GC's crappy vertical range.
Bishops are annoying as hell with doom + dispel.
BaM's, invincibility for 27 seconds, nuff said.
Evan's have hella fast skills. D:
Cannoneers have counters + summons + hard hitting skills.

Cannoners

phantom
nuffsaid

[quote=Elitist]@Viener: eh...I agree with your statement (only before these class revamps) but now I don't find DBs to be that balanced anymore compared to classes that have been revamped several times. (except for maybe bowmaster and wildhunter) Most of the revamped classes (which I find to be somewhat balanced) can do inherently better than DBs in terms of points without really trying.

Maybe, I'm facing too many Pros/OP classes and I don't feel DBs as balanced against these revamped classes when I can't seem to score well against them or my skills are not max (two skills left at lvl 10). [Yea, that seems to be an excuse for my lack of skill][/quote]

We're not perfectly balanced, but still balanced. Other classes are just better. Just have max Thorns, Crit, PB, BF, and FC, and you should be fine in 120+ PvP. Maybe it's your control.

@Viener: eh...I agree with your statement (only before these class revamps) but now I don't find DBs to be that balanced anymore compared to classes that have been revamped several times. (except for maybe bowmaster and wildhunter) Most of the revamped classes (which I find to be somewhat balanced) can do inherently better than DBs in terms of points without really trying.

Maybe, I'm facing too many Pros/OP classes and I don't feel DBs as balanced against these revamped classes when I can't seem to score well against them or my skills are not max (two skills left at lvl 10). [Yea, that seems to be an excuse for my lack of skill]

[quote=Elitist]DBs OP - haha...that gave me a good laugh...
DBs are not OP. DBs are one of the weakest classes in PvP + extremely low HP. I PvP everday on my DB (larson set only) and I know most classes with the bloody/rising sun set can kill me in about two to three hits.

If you want a strong class in PvP and a [b]beginner friendly class[/b], I would consider Evan, cannoneer and battlemage. (Bishops if you have high magic attack)[/quote]

DBs aren't one of the weakest class, nor are we OP. We are balanced. I can easily get 1.5k+ without BA, and with all my Halphas and RS gear, can get 2k (noob stomps of course). Although on the low HP part, I have to agree. When other pros come in, I get 2-3HKO.

[quote=snowkillerXP]I need a way of getting easy emblems.

Which job is best for PVP?

I know Bishops, BaMs, and Dual Blades are pretty OP, But which one is the most OP.

I have a feeling this will spark hate, so let me take a second to explain.

I have an Aran. In PVP, my attacks are slow as hell and often don't even register. They also miss because they are one sided, and due to lag, I can't even zip across the map with combat step, like I do outside of PVP.

Also, Aran's ONLY stunning skill, Rolling spin, does NOT stun in PVP, for some reason. It's bad enough we can barely attack, while other classes can constantly stun and beat the crap out of you.

So with that, I ask once more. What's the most OP class in PVP.[/quote]

DBs OP - haha...that gave me a good laugh...
DBs are not OP. DBs are one of the weakest classes in PvP + extremely low HP. I PvP everday on my DB (larson set only) and I know most classes with the bloody/rising sun set can kill me in about two to three hits.

If you want a strong class in PvP and a [b]beginner friendly class[/b], I would consider Evan, cannoneer and battlemage. (Bishops if you have high magic attack)

Bam's are freaking invincible >.<

LOL, DB OP? They're so easy to kill, squishy people.
Out of those 3, a BaM would be the easiest to play, but if well played, a Bishop could be better. Canon Shooters would be quite good too, you'd just have to camp.

db dies in like 2 sec totally not recommanded

Heros, Sairs, Bucc, NL, BM and WH

Demon Slayers, Mercs, and BaM

Duals aren't OP

@LazyLotad: I'm actually friends with our in-denial best Paladin in Windia
and if that was a year and a half ago then that was possibly pre-revamp meaning Paladins were invincible back then since ALL jobs were tanky.
@Valtorec Demon Slayers? good laugh.

Buccs with bowman. We can crash the whole map.

OT: Legend classes and mages.

F/p, i/l and evans are glass cannons. But f/ps hit hardest i think. One of the best pvpers, Brazenspring, in Broa can score 3-5k in a full room with everybody killing each other.
Mercs are glass cannons too.
DS is troll hard.
Bams are good for starters. Since you'll probably be overwhelmed by the heavily geared if you were some other class.
Bish has everything.
CS counters are annoying. It's also good if you're just starting.

Demon slayers run PvP alongside BaMs

[quote=LazyLotad]1. Battle Mage
2. Paladin
3. Shadower

From observation as well as personal play through.[/quote]

Paladins?
They're more tanky over damage dealers, easily ks'd hard to kill.
Not recommended.

[quote=StellarAshes]CS, DS, and all the mages are all pretty good in PvP.

"while other classes can constantly stun and beat the crap out of you."

AFAIK no class can reliably chain stun at all, so I have no idea how you got that impression.

Do consider, though, that in KMS PvP was taken out with the release of Phantom. As it seems to be coming around in GMS, it might not be the best idea to make a new char just for PvP.[/quote]

Dark Knights I believe, have Dragon Roar, which is a 90% success rate. Granted, it has a CD. Archers' AR has a 60% stun too. Drk has a CD, and Archers are squishy though. However, the second I get stunned, I pretty much die.

OT: Evans, CS, DS. Maybe BaM if you're good enough. And DBs are OP? I think not. We're balanced.

Yeah i have a evan pretty op in pvp suks u cant use dragon thrust tho

Cannon Shooters, Evans, or Battle Mages.

Evan, BaM, DS, Merc.

CS, DS, and all the mages are all pretty good in PvP.

"while other classes can constantly stun and beat the crap out of you."

AFAIK no class can reliably chain stun at all, so I have no idea how you got that impression.

Do consider, though, that in KMS PvP was taken out with the release of Phantom. As it seems to be coming around in GMS, it might not be the best idea to make a new char just for PvP.

mercedes? bam is good, but mastering the power can take time.
whereas mercedes just spam tornado, unicorn, and spear

BaM needs quite a bit of funding & skills just to hit 2k+. a BaM with 0 b.att does at least 1.5k.

If you want a class that requires little skills & are incredibly OP in PvP, invest in either an Evan or a Cannoneer.

Evan with 0 b.att does 2k averages. & that just spamming their main skills & dark fog. If you abuse the 5sec respawn iframe with Dragon Blink, that's an addition 500-1k points on top of the 2k averages.

There are jobs that are inherently better at PvP, but it's ultimately up to your skill with the class.

BaM
All those invencivle skills
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WH. Hehehehe....
Seriously though, a Battle Mage is pretty good.