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Ryudes Sword Worth it?

"Ryude's Sword: Required Lv. 150, Category: Two-handed Sword, Attack Speed: Normal, STR +45, Dex +35, Weapon ATT +165, Accuracy +120, Boss ATT +10%, Ignore DEF +10%, Number of Upgrades Available: 6 (unhammered), Trade disabled when equipped, 100 Charm EXP obtained when equipped. [b] Increases the number of attacks by 1 (Not applicable to all skills).[/b]"

Do you all think it's worth the 50% boss, 6 Attack, and 2 slots to use a Ryude's Sword over a Fafnir for the extra hit on each attack?

I'm assuming this means that normal Gigas hits 11 times (with the bonus attack hyper), Wingbeat hits 2 times per attack, and Tempest Blades hits 5 times a sword, or 25 total times per use. The increases are even better when transfigured. According to the new DPS charts, this increases our % per second by a crapton, but is it worth the aforementioned losses form not using a Fafnir sword?

July 22, 2014

25 Comments • Newest first

Queen0fNova

I never saw this sword in scania. I do not think anyone is doing oz tower or got to kill the boss,.

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
CRUSlFIED

[quote=ray120191]@CRUSlFIED: about a 40% when i match back u old range[/quote]
thanks for the info~ May i ask how much u payed for your sword?

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
Queen0fNova

[quote=kimster16]yes there's a lot of them.[/quote]

what do you mean by cap ? dragon mode = easy to cap ? cap on orange mushroom =/= capping on c-vellum.

there are not many kaisers that can cap with reg mode gigas on every monster in maple.

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
ray120191

@CRUSlFIED: about a 40% when i match back u old range

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
CRUSlFIED

[quote=ray120191]well i think it worth it as u see i have 1 and i also belive it only add 1 line into multimob skill so for normla gigas waves dose not add 1 line but for tranformed it dose add 1 line and on wing beat it add 1 line[/quote]

I notice u have a Ryuude's b4 buying 1 myself id like to ask you, how big of an increase in DPS is it?

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
ray120191

well i think it worth it as u see i have 1 and i also belive it only add 1 line into multimob skill so for normla gigas waves dose not add 1 line but for tranformed it dose add 1 line and on wing beat it add 1 line

Reply September 6, 2014 - edited
SombraManx

@BoredAF: it would be 112% (its additive instead of multiplicative which causes a diminishing retrun) it also adds to hyper skills and normal skills (most of them for example cross over chains)

Reply July 27, 2014 - edited
frisbeeness

50% boss is essentially a 20-25% boost in damage output.
Kaiser's high number of hits makes the extra hit a case of diminishing returns even more prominent than that of diminishing boss% returns.
Unless you are hitting far beyond the 50m cap of course (like >60m lines), which requires a laughably high range and even more than before due to the loss of 20% damage.

Reply July 24, 2014 - edited
betaboi101

It might work like that marksman skill that only adds lines to attacks with 2 lines or more. I may be wrong but I guess someone will have to test out which skill don't apply

EDIT: didn't see the video above.. Oh wow

Reply July 24, 2014 - edited
xlxlxlxl

[quote=traderweak]Increases the number of attacks by 1 ([b]Not applicable to all skills[/b]).

See the bracket sentence, don't get your hope up high but I think 1v1 skill get +1 hit count is a sure.[/quote]
It works for wingbeat in KMS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT1LkhrUJnc

Reply July 24, 2014 - edited
simaini

imagine they got that effect for a marksman and boom extra line on snipe lol

Reply July 24, 2014 - edited
mvietp09

This sword on a hero would be very useful considering how few lines they hit.

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
Jyenna

Does this make DWs Sunset/Moon attack hit 4x2 or 6+1?

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
Ecyz

Doubling Wingbeat's hits really makes this sword worth it

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
FreeIcecream

@skybreak
That would indeed be quite nice. That 1/3 increase in 1v1 would be better than the 50% boss in the long run :o

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
SombraManx

[quote=traderweak]I agree to @kimster16

say if I hit 10 times on boss with 1m each = 10m

extra 1 hit = 11m
while extra 50% boss = 10 x1.5 = 15m?[/quote]

that would be right if you were the average joe with 0% boss damage...

to a pro mapler with 200% (hell, even less) boss damage, this sword is WAAAAAAY better... thanks to how total damage + boss dmg stack

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
Anthoy84

It affects Wingbeat for sure, no idea about the other skills.

Doubling the hits on Wingbeat should make up for the loss of a Fafnir by a lot.

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
SkyBreak

i wonder if its 2 line for dawn warrior

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
AntiSenpai

[quote=Kaneusta]Really? I've only seen those who can hit 11m per line, never seen a kaiser hitting cap each line. Mind naming one or two?[/quote]

Ifreide in Windia hits cap.

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
Kaneusta

[quote=kimster16]yes there's a lot of them.[/quote]

Really? I've only seen those who can hit 11m per line, never seen a kaiser hitting cap each line. Mind naming one or two?

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
kimster16

yes there's a lot of them.

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
AgedOne

[quote=kimster16]imo, i think it only worth if u hit cap, otherwise fafnir probably give more boost than 1 extra hit.[/quote]

Is there a Kaiser in GMS that currently caps? I don't know of one.

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
kimster16

imo, i think it only worth if u hit cap, otherwise fafnir probably give more boost than 1 extra hit.

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited