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reasons for unleashed

hello basil community
i have some questions about unleashed..

i understand it was a patch MAINLY for the higher lvls to train. nothing wrong with that.

but why did nexon have to lower the exp on core training monsters such as jesters,aliens, and LHC
also, is this exp change permanent?

this may not be a serious problem to most maplers. but it is a problem none the less.
in my 6 1/2 years pf playing maple, ive NEVER thought of quitting until now

June 24, 2013

22 Comments • Newest first

ixPiex

@AugPirate: It's funny how stupid Nexon is... Many KMS players quit because of Unlimited and it seems GMS wants that to happen too. They knew that if they copied and pasted the content from KMS that many players would quit yet they did it anyways. I wonder who really works for Nexon... Pigs?

Reply June 24, 2013
AugPirate

[quote=ixPiex]I love how Nexon decided to implant all the bad stuff about Unlimited into Unleashed and ignoring the good parts of that patch. It's like Nexon wants us to all quit.[/quote]

i was thinking that same thing..

"nexon": lets nerf the exp for the lower levels and focus on the 190+
.. who cares if they quit, we can buy our own nx

Reply June 24, 2013
ixPiex

I love how Nexon decided to implant all the bad stuff about Unlimited into Unleashed and ignoring the good parts of that patch. It's like Nexon wants us to all quit.

Reply June 24, 2013
AugPirate

[quote=PissingMeOffP]I don't have a problem with the exp my main problem is bosses being impossible for average players and the harder ones entirely impossible without thousands of dollars in funding.[/quote]

well please enlighten me on how you cope with this crap.
because i cant deal with the exp change..

but hey so what if the (weaker bosses such as zak) have a more hp..it just takes longer and makes it more fun
cant say for harder bosses such as emp cuz ive never fought hr

Reply June 24, 2013
AugPirate

[quote=andretheman]

EDIT:
@PovertyShoez: If they did that, later one wha would happen is EVERYONE would complain that training is too slow and ask for a faster method of leveling, please remember that everyone was fine training till the complaints started, they complained that training for mages was too slow, then they brought in ultimates with no cooldowns, then people complained that leech is bad, then they made the exp ratio 80:20, people complained that this was bad, so they eliminated spammable ultimates and brought the 60:40 ratio back again, people complained that bosses were too hard (back when they gave ALOT of exp),so then bosses got nerfed, people complained that exp was too small now, big bang came in, and EXP was soo nice, then they started complaining again, then they got LHC, ten they started complaining again, and bosses became more accessible to kill, then the complaints rolled in again, saying that the difference between STRONG players and weak players is too large, and now this change. If anyone is to be responsible for these changes its the maple community because nexon does as we say.[/quote]

i agree when you say nexon has most likely changed the game so much due to a few crybabies.
but look what happend to most of the people who wanted change..they were never satisfied and eventually quit

i was ok with the exp before this patch.
the only thing i would have changed were the difficulty on the bosses. other than that maple was perfect for me (aside from the attitudes from these dam kids tryna ks)

Reply June 24, 2013
andretheman

I believe originally the game was made for more people to get along and do things together. What the game had become was a training frenzy of loner maplers whizzing through their job advancements like nothing, and if they did have a party, they most likely would reject some characters over other making the game really unfortunate for some maplers.

So to balance it, the balanced the exp = LESS KSING, and more time to spend and enjoy 2nd and 3rd job advancement, honestly for me, it got to the point where I just figured nexon would merge both 3rd and 2nd job since training went by so fast, and people nver really even got a chance to experience their jobs.

Also what's the point of releasing content if players are just going to hoard the "best" content and leave the rest to gather dust, that would be a waste of time and money on nexon's part so they adjust it so that there is not a real advantage training in one spot over the other.

ALSO REMEMBER, this was by request of the maplers, think about it, the people who were able to train in these "godly" maps were most likely higher leveled/rich people (or bishop/kanna) that represents the minority, the rest of the players never even really got a chance to experience these maps (for their fullness), so I agree with the nerf.

EDIT:
@PovertyShoez: If they did that, later one wha would happen is EVERYONE would complain that training is too slow and ask for a faster method of leveling, please remember that everyone was fine training till the complaints started, they complained that training for mages was too slow, then they brought in ultimates with no cooldowns, then people complained that leech is bad, then they made the exp ratio 80:20, people complained that this was bad, so they eliminated spammable ultimates and brought the 60:40 ratio back again, people complained that bosses were too hard (back when they gave ALOT of exp),so then bosses got nerfed, people complained that exp was too small now, big bang came in, and EXP was soo nice, then they started complaining again, then they got LHC, ten they started complaining again, and bosses became more accessible to kill, then the complaints rolled in again, saying that the difference between STRONG players and weak players is too large, and now this change. If anyone is to be responsible for these changes its the maple community because nexon does as we say.

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
4kush20

@AugPirate: I feel you man, maple is also the only MMO I play and it's the only one I'll ever play.. I'm not much of a computer gamer, just got into it when I was like 13 because of a friend and been hooked ever since, if I ever quit, I still got my ps3 for my free time, I know some people don't like it very much but I can't get enough of COD xD

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
Dilbert868

[quote=PovertyShoez]Nerfing exp doesn't make it challenging, just more time consuming. Also, if Nexon wanted us to explore the Maple world then they could of just made more viable training spots or buffing the exp of existing training spots.[/quote]

Seriously... this.

Because of the extremely harsh nerf, I'm not even going to bother making new characters/continuing my current lower level characters that I was working on before the patch.

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
AugPirate

[quote=4kush20]@AugPirate: I've also been playing for around 6 1/2 years (on and off) and no 200 yet xD but my problem is not having the time to do it. we'll just have to bear with it or quit sucks but if you don't enjoy the game anymore then there is no reason to continue playing, right? Well unless you have good friends on there but you can always keep in contact via skype or facebook and countless other things
Maybe it's time to find a new game?[/quote]

i havent had good friends on maple in over 2 years
and if i quit maple THEN IM DONE WITH COMPUTER GAMES.
maple was the only computer game ive ever played and i loved it because there was NO beating it. you could just keep going on and on.
not that you cant anymore but ...
but i do plan on buying a ps3 soon.. within this year

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
4kush20

@AugPirate: I've also been playing for around 6 1/2 years (on and off) and no 200 yet xD but my problem is not having the time to do it. we'll just have to bear with it or quit sucks but if you don't enjoy the game anymore then there is no reason to continue playing, right? Well unless you have good friends on there but you can always keep in contact via skype or facebook and countless other things
Maybe it's time to find a new game?

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
AugPirate

@4kush20 i have plenty of time to play, its just that im not even motivated anymore like i used to be. that lvl 250 cap did not make me wanna play more.
my highest lvl is a 174 merc. YES 6 1/2 and only a 174 merc. i never planned on gettin passed 200 even with this new lvl cap. let the dedicated ones do it. ill just watch

@povertyshoez well that makes sense. i swear some of the maple community know more about what maple wants more than nexon.

btw sayin that "they put the game back to what it was supposed to be" doesnt make an excuse for aliens. correct me if im wrong but i believe aliens were GMS exclusive.
if anything there EXP should have stayed the same

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
PovertyShoez

[quote=QuackOutLoud]To make the game more challenging damn it, there's more to the game than levelling in those three maps, explore the Maple world.
And yes this change is permanent, so either quit, or just deal with it.[/quote]

Nerfing exp doesn't make it challenging, just more time consuming. Also, if Nexon wanted us to explore the Maple world then they could of just made more viable training spots or buffing the exp of existing training spots.

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
4kush20

@AugPirate: Yeah it has xD even I can't help but be annoyed by it because I don't have a lot of time to play so now it will take me even longer to level and bossing is out of the question since I can't solo some of them anymore and it's hard to find a party to go with. But I also kind of like what they did with the exp because now it's got me focused on my highest level character.

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
AugPirate

[quote=4kush20]Haha, you've been spoiled by big bang, exp was crap before it and you played without thinking of quitting xD
I don't know why they changed it so much and to be honest i think they went a little overboard with it, I'm fine with a nerf but to make LHC monsters only give around 1.4k exp and only increase the mob to the amount it would be if you had kishen when it was still a party zone is ridiculous.. 110-160 is going to be insane so i don't even plan on making a new character unless it's for skill link[/quote]

lol you have a GREAT point of me playing before bb w/o thinking of the exp.
but like you said. BB has spoiled me/US BAD.
but honestly, back then, maple was fun and there was stuff to do. people to have good conversations with/hang with/ etc. EXP WAS THE LAST THING ON MY MIND 3 YEARS AGO

and i have a lvl 50 AB.
if things dont go to well after a while, ill move to scania.
if that fails then (i won quit) but i will take a LONG break

@quackoutloud i understand. but i just think you took me for another 13 year old QQn and making a "i miss old maple" thread.
lol ive seen pleanty of those and i realize that is how one must deal with kids.
theres no telling whos behind a keyboard.
but im 18 and consider my self a vet at this game (still havent hit lvl 200) and this change is just overdoing it with exp. YES the game was a bit easy but that didnt mean go and throw it to hell

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
QuackOutLoud

@AugPirate: Actually I wasn't trying to come off as rude, but reading it again, it does sound like I said it in a rude tone, sorry about that.
You said you were going to consider quitting, so I was just saying you can quit the game now, or you have to put up with the changes as every player does.

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
InnocentW

[quote=QuackOutLoud]To make the game more challenging damn it, there's more to the game than levelling in those three maps, explore the Maple world.
And yes this change is permanent, so either quit, or just deal with it.[/quote]
You are amazing. This is the most patriotic maple post on basil I have ever seen haha

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
4kush20

Haha, you've been spoiled by big bang, exp was crap before it and you played without thinking of quitting xD
I don't know why they changed it so much and to be honest i think they went a little overboard with it, I'm fine with a nerf but to make LHC monsters only give around 1.4k exp and only increase the mob to the amount it would be if you had kishen when it was still a party zone is ridiculous.. 110-160 is going to be insane so i don't even plan on making a new character unless it's for skill link

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
AugPirate

[quote=QuackOutLoud]To make the game more challenging damn it, there's more to the game than levelling in those three maps, explore the Maple world.
And yes this change is permanent, so either quit, or just deal with it.[/quote]

no need to be rude..
2 posters under you answerd the questions like NORMAL people, wasnt that hard

@tim777 see the thing about that is. so many people are quitting that the maple community is getting smaller and smaller and more impatient.
so there are less people to party with

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
tim777

These monsters gave too much exp and made it too easy to lvl up..

Just go PQ with your friends and you still lvl in no time
instead of grinding solo all the time at always the same monsters

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
Earlier

[quote=AugPirate]hello basil community
i have some questions about unleashed..

i understand it was a patch MAINLY for the higher lvls to train. nothing wrong with that.

but why did nexon have to lower the exp on core training monsters such as jesters,aliens, and LHC
also, is this exp change permanent?

this may not be a serious problem to most maplers. but it is a problem none the less.
in my 6 1/2 years pf playing maple, ive NEVER thought of quitting until now[/quote]
Yes, it'll be permanent.
They did it because this is originally how it was supposed to be.

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
Naruttto

just go to future heney

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited
QuackOutLoud

To make the game more challenging damn it, there's more to the game than levelling in those three maps, explore the Maple world.
And yes this change is permanent, so either quit, or just deal with it.

Reply June 24, 2013 - edited