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@AugPirate: None taken. And it wasn't really a theory, just my opinion on the matter and my understanding as to why nexon would implement this system with certain conditions and restrictions.

[quote=Rimkii]not even so much the lie part. It's more of having the lack of appreciation and respect for a class by going through its worst to best times or vice versa. And it really takes next to nothing to get to 4th job now. finding a good class is just trial and error.[/quote]
well as you said getting to 4th job these days really isnt difficult so i cant imagine one class will have it easier than another (maybe bishops) especially since theyve all been revamped. i doubt people will be making classes for the sole purpose of switching later. most likely people who already have an explorer class will be the ones switching to try out something new which really doenst affect overall gameplay.

@Rimkii: Its their business not yours.

YAY NO LONGER NEEDED TO PSOK equips when starting new char. TY NEXON.

[quote=AugPirate]no offense to you but
I HATE YOUR THEORY.. this game is way too easy, so there is nothing wrong with busting you ass training to try a new character

(like i said, no offense, much respect)[/quote]

I agree with the game being too easy, I don't hate the job-change system though since theres really nothing wrong with it, theres also the fact that at level 200+ you're basically paying over max mesos to switch jobs (400m ish for the actual switch, 50~60 for books from bucklerman, and then you need a new weapon)

@JackKatamari: lol why would you ? Lumi got Link skill BaM doesnt

[quote=justsofly]Well it only works for explorers, and it only works for the same class. Meaning a Hero can only change into a Pally or DrK, etc.

Either way you're still stuck with the same equips. It's really just so people can try out other jobs without having to bust their ass training a high leveled one, still gotta buy the mastery books which sucks hard. All explorers are hard to level anyway, so there really isn't much of a difference in terms of training. Not much in a change of equips either except for Pirates since sairs use dex and buccs use str.[/quote]

no offense to you but
I HATE YOUR THEORY.. this game is way too easy, so there is nothing wrong with busting you ass training to try a new character

(like i said, no offense, much respect)

[quote=bluebomber24]....you don't like free advance because people lie....k[/quote]

not even so much the lie part. It's more of having the lack of appreciation and respect for a class by going through its worst to best times or vice versa. And it really takes next to nothing to get to 4th job now. finding a good class is just trial and error.

I thought this was temporary @.@

*thinks its 4 pages of ppl saying 'OLD NEWS NUB YOU SUHK'*

wow, nobody said it on the first page. I don't really have an interest in free job adv. except for fun on certain mules. I gots lotsa explorers ;3

[quote=Rimkii]@magseven ok maybe that was a bad example, i was trying to compare as pirates in general But my point still stands that people can pick an easier class to level up as then switch to a harder/rarer class and claim they stuck with it.[/quote]

....you don't like free advance because people lie....k

@magseven ok maybe that was a bad example, i was trying to compare as pirates in general But my point still stands that people can pick an easier class to level up as then switch to a harder/rarer class and claim they stuck with it.

Honestly, I can't wait to switch my hero into a paladin just for the character card <3. Given this is implemented

wait... your mastery levels are reset? So I have to rebuy books all over again? (maple warrior 20/30 in particular) >.<

[quote=darkedge]im pretty sure db would be void from this seeing as there not counted as an inital explorer...[/quote]

DBs were intergrated with explorers. DBs have shared CS and are part of the free advance.

Does this apply to only adventurers?

im pretty sure db would be void from this seeing as there not counted as an inital explorer...

@EmilRiza I don't think it works like that. I think you could only become a Priest or a Cleric. I could be wrong though. I mean if it does then I might change my Lumi to a Battle Mage.

[quote=Rimkii]Horrible idea. It takes the challenge of raising a certain class.
example IMO: mechs is one of the toughest classes to play in the game, so in early lvls be a bucc then once you get to 150+ switch to a mech and go "look! i'm a rare* high lvled class i'm so pro" or whatever; and it just disrespects people who actually stuck with a class through its best and worst times...[/quote]
Mechanics are resistance. Free advancement is only for explorers.

that means that i can change my bishop to a Lumi ?

[quote=stevensayshello]Says the one that keeps playing it.[/quote]
Doesn't take away the fact that this game is bad.

@iplayms121: Are you kidding? I [b]love[/b] my Shadower! I was just speaking on behalf of my friends.

[quote=DayServant]I think it's messed up how the fee works. IMO the fee should be based on how long you've been playing the class. The longer you've played it, the lower the fee. Also the level 100 weapon wouldn't be that useful, why not just give level 10 skill books.

EDIT: The system is flawed in that you can play a class that's MUCH easier to level up and then switch late game to a class that you really wanted to play but knew would be harder to level up early on.[/quote]

Looks like someone wants to switch their Shad into a DB xD, with the introduction of RED there will be no skillbooks, only mastery books

[quote=CatastrophicEnd]@XXjumpstar1299X They removed the need for skillbooks.[/quote]

Oh. This is a tongue.

Wait, If I switch classes do I need to get Phantom Blow and Final Cut again?

Well it only works for explorers, and it only works for the same class. Meaning a Hero can only change into a Pally or DrK, etc.

Either way you're still stuck with the same equips. It's really just so people can try out other jobs without having to bust their ass training a high leveled one, still gotta buy the mastery books which sucks hard. All explorers are hard to level anyway, so there really isn't much of a difference in terms of training. Not much in a change of equips either except for Pirates since sairs use dex and buccs use str.

I would switch my NL to be shad but then i gotta buy a dagger and a good khanjar...then im screwed with mastery books.

Hmm, I'm slightly on the fence about this one. I feel like class changing for Explorers is ok in general, but I object against the the multiple class change. I'd limit it to one to three tries, and then the character is locked in.

As for leveling up an easier class and then switching to the harder class, that player loses out on the playing experience. It's like getting a free lvl 100 character. You have absolutely no idea how to use that character.

If you don't like it then don't use it then it shouldn't affect you k but wait does this mean that I can switch to DBs ahh yes my maple dream will then come true.
Wow savage blow is ugly.

Horrible idea. It takes the challenge of raising a certain class.
example IMO: mechs is one of the toughest classes to play in the game, so in early lvls be a bucc then once you get to 150+ switch to a mech and go "look! i'm a rare* high lvled class i'm so pro" or whatever; and it just disrespects people who actually stuck with a class through its best and worst times...

@ThisJagRawr: yeah i agree . to me, its mostly one of those things for the people who say they cant train. lol

[quote=NafinFabian]or or or, maybe if you dont like the class revamp they give you in RED you can switch to the other class. for example if you dont like hero's revamp, you can switch it to DRK. also, not all people make a class because they like it. some do because they want to try it. like if i made a f/p but didnt like it and wanted a bishop instead.

EDIT: not exactly supporting this, but im just saying in general.[/quote]

Not trying to argue with you either, but if you had made said F/P and didn't like it, I personally would play to like 105~110-ish to get an idea of how 4th job game play is, and if I didn't like it, I'd just make the other character, no problems there, and test that out. With unlimited LPQ/R&J PQ and the half hour sessions in Evo lab. Getting to 105 or up really isn't a problem, no matter how much people wanna complain about LHC being ruined and how they can't train. You get +1 point for the revamp idea tho c: for the thought. Get a new weapon, new 2nd wep, buy/cube those, and get the feel of a whole new character.

Edited because Nexon ruins the FM and removes MMBs/other books.

[quote=TheNutCracker]What about the books, will we need to buy the skills books everytime we choose a new job ?[/quote]

skill books no longer exist in KMS, no longer needed.

Explorers don't need mastery books anymore.

Other classes can use the books from the store (7mil/10mil for 20/30)

[quote=ThisJagRawr]I doubt this is gonna stop it. There's always buy mesos to job change, again.I'm not gonna argue anyways, Nexon keeps coming out with stupider things.[/quote]

If it's popular they'll probs change it to an NX-only thing

[quote=ThisJagRawr]Stupid idea. If you make for example an I/L, why would you even consider switching to a Bish or F/P? You make a job in the first place because you like the job, and you stick with it because you enjoy it or have fun being that job. It should stay that way. Not oh today I feel like being (insert class here) and tomorrow I feel like being (insert other class here). Nobody has class pride anymore?[/quote]

or or or, maybe if you dont like the class revamp they give you in RED you can switch to the other class. for example if you dont like hero's revamp, you can switch it to DRK. also, not all people make a class because they like it. some do because they want to try it. like if i made a f/p but didnt like it and wanted a bishop instead.

EDIT: not exactly supporting this, but im just saying in general.

When they offered this in DFO it costed like 25k nx and had a maximum level limit so people at the level cap couldn't use it.

So it's executed a little better here but is still kinda dumb.

We probably won't get this as its kinda game breaking

[quote=janny1993]The more you change, the more expensive it become.
The higher level you are, the more expensive to change.[/quote]

I doubt this is gonna stop it. There's always buy mesos to job change, again.I'm not gonna argue anyways, Nexon keeps coming out with stupider things.

[quote=ThisJagRawr]Stupid idea. If you make for example an I/L, why would you even consider switching to a Bish or F/P? You make a job in the first place because you like the job, and you stick with it because you enjoy it or have fun being that job. It should stay that way. Not oh today I feel like being (insert class here) and tomorrow I feel like being (insert other class here). Nobody has class pride anymore?[/quote]

The more you change, the more expensive it become.
The higher level you are, the more expensive to change.

Stupid idea. If you make for example an I/L, why would you even consider switching to a Bish or F/P? You make a job in the first place because you like the job, and you stick with it because you enjoy it or have fun being that job. It should stay that way. Not oh today I feel like being (insert class here) and tomorrow I feel like being (insert other class here). Nobody has class pride anymore?

I like this. Can switch some chars I don't like. Excited to switch my Hero to a Drk. Its not that bad. You need to get skillbooks + get new weapons. Also, they should make it cost 100m minimum and go up to 1b.

I like it ... easier to fund especially if you have untradeable items!

Does KMS have the same problem as GMS, class hoppers? If this is the case, perhaps that's why they added this feature. I'm against it though.

I'll change my nl into a db <3

i don't see how this is bad
if you don't like it don't use it

Is this bad? o.o

@AugPirate It's just my opinion haha. I agree with you though.

i would like to know.. why would nexon add this feature..
as if this game wasnt easy enough

"ahhh screw 6 other job adv..you raise one class you raise em all" -nexon logic

@dayservant i dont think we should have this at all

I think it's messed up how the fee works. IMO the fee should be based on how long you've been playing the class. The longer you've played it, the lower the fee. Also the level 100 weapon wouldn't be that useful, why not just give level 10 skill books.

EDIT: The system is flawed in that you can play a class that's MUCH easier to level up and then switch late game to a class that you really wanted to play but knew would be harder to level up early on.

That. Right there.

-facepalm-