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Healing Bot H-LX trick

basically, i just saw a thread about how it sucks/doesnt work, and i felt like i should share this with everyone, hence why i made a new thread instead of an inconspicuous reply in the other thread

Healing Bot, basically, i discovered that if you are bossing per-say, it would be extremely handy for situations that you get potion locked, or 1/1'd (to bring u up to 95% hp after using that 70% ginger ale ) all you need to do is crouch for a second, then pop back up

now, a lot of people already knew this,

Credit goes to KHAINIKaz / OneKaz / Kasair / Kasiar for this discovery, but, its actually a pretty bloody good healing skill

ALL you need to do is TAP the down key while in its range, im serious, try it, the animation will pop up about a second after u stand back up still, even if yur only crouched for a millionth of a second, it registers as you being crouched, and heals you

so seriously, u take damage in a boss run, how long does it take to tap down? 1/5 of a second? if that? save yur ass in pot lock and help with 1/1

i do agree its stupid that it doesnt affect party members, despite it clearly says it does, but hey, its still better than rocket punch (or as GMS says, punch launcher)

January 25, 2011

12 Comments • Newest first

deathleaper

[quote=Takeback3r]
tbh it was complete chance that i got the acc and it has nothing to do with me owning a KSSN, lol. Not the point yes but you WERE questioning my experience on the subject...
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Not at all. It was actually me questioning my own experience with Mechs.

Reply January 25, 2011
Takeback3r

[quote=Virility]@takeback3r

i remember you from the shad vs bucc thread.

Honestly most of your comments where non-related,all for self concious defense and pure arrogance.

DO NOT ARGUE WITH HIM!

In fact a bucc provided info about shads and you smoted him about not deserving to be a bucc[/quote]

...And your comment is at all related to this thread how again?

[quote=deathleaper]@Takeback3r: Unfortunately but not everyone has access to accounts that require Korean Social Security numbers, although I do thank Spadow and all the other non Koreans for bringing us information about KMS updates =D. Obviously you have the experience. But I'm the subject here, and I have only played Mechanics for 6 days.

Easy to turn off MG you say? Please elaborate, in a situation with a bishop that has 5k health. They can survive huge attacks how? (I'm sounding arrogant here but I'm just asking).[/quote]

tbh it was complete chance that i got the acc and it has nothing to do with me owning a KSSN, lol. Not the point yes but you WERE questioning my experience on the subject...

Like i said i don't really have any experience with van leon but from what it looks like his max touch is actually around 5-5.5k. With invincible alone your example bishop would be able to tank and heal no problem. Throw in hb, combo barrier, magic resistance, or even blue aura and his survivability rises to where one would only need roughly 3k min to tank. Completely guestimating here. I'm in a train station so i don't have the resources to give better replies.

[quote=brodstar]takebackers in my alliance (im iRaiyan =D)

but why are you raging so much about this

it was just a little helpful tip for those who didnt know o-o, its a little extra security, and the reaction time of healing bot IS actually fast enough to catch you when invinc runs out (ive checked) if your personal reaction time is fast enough to use it

its this or rocket punch, which is even more useless lol[/quote]

LOL hi. I'm not really raging about it and personally i'm pro-healing bot. People would rather max other skills and limit the availability and effect of h-bot when the alternatives involve attacks that are not only sufficient when no maxed, but are replaced immediately after 4th job. Sounds stupid to me. As far as it's use and reaction, i'm still skeptical. Even assuming it reacts in time to save you from any damage that could kill you afterwards, it might not be reliable enough to depend on. If it blows up and your party members don't notice it (most won't) they'll duck and die. The mechanic to my knowledge also has to demount tank (1ish second?) and lay down h-bot which takes time as well. If you take 2 1/1s in that time, are you going to depend on h-bot to save you immediately? A bishop is much more reliable, or better yet, your own healing skills. (provided you have one)

Also, ducking means you have to be not attacking. Some classes have main attack skills they can stop and duck on the spot, other's don't. Though this is irrelevant since it doesn't affect non-mechs yet.

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited
kelvinzero

i completely agree with takebacker the robot is useless i don't have time to summon a robot when the boss it's trying to 1/1 me the doors is more usefull skill in most situations. for example at czakum he 5 second pot locks so a mechanic sets up a door with the summons from zak are at the top and one on the bottom every would then,use the portal to quickly go get hit by them mob or when its about to 1/1 u do the samething go get hit by the mob with the door.

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited
brodstar

takebackers in my alliance (im iRaiyan =D)

but why are you raging so much about this

it was just a little helpful tip for those who didnt know o-o, its a little extra security, and the reaction time of healing bot IS actually fast enough to catch you when invinc runs out (ive checked) if your personal reaction time is fast enough to use it

its this or rocket punch, which is even more useless lol

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited
deathleaper

@Takeback3r: Unfortunately but not everyone has access to accounts that require Korean Social Security numbers, although I do thank Spadow and all the other non Koreans for bringing us information about KMS updates =D. Obviously you have the experience. But I'm the subject here, and I have only played Mechanics for 6 days.

Easy to turn off MG you say? Please elaborate, in a situation with a bishop that has 5k health. They can survive huge attacks how? (I'm sounding arrogant here but I'm just asking).

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited
Amped

[quote=Takeback3r]And any van leon squad stupid enough to go without a bishop in the party is doomed to fail. No one in any maple community really has a good grasp of how difficult the fights you just brought up are, so your point is a little moot. The fact that you are susceptible to any kind of damage after 1/1 still stands, and healing bot does not react fast enough for a player to rely on for recovering from 1/1.

The class CAN heal, but this does not mean they can do so well enough to compare with other healing skills. Use power elixers when hit by 1/1 in pot cooldown situations and use healing bot to heal from lesser attacks. Any experienced mech should come to that conclusion naturally.[/quote]

So you NEED a bishop to survive efficiently? I saw a Paladin at van leon castle, iirc, taking 1 damage from mobs. Does that affect anything? Or do they have some 1/1, or some special kind of skill that breaks through their solid defence?

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited
Takeback3r

[quote=deathleaper]Because a bishop can really heal when he's got no mana right? Or is dead due to lack of mana for MG. Infinity can only last so long.

As far as I can see on Empress Cygnus, in the beginning, the mobs don't hit too hard. Maybe 6-7k? Anyone who will go there are probably the ones who have washed enough to take two hits or so, and probably more with HB. Seeing that the most common high dps class are NLs, they have insane avoid and are likely to have 4-5+ misses between getting hit each time. You can basically heal that back within each attack. All this is theory of course.

I never said that the healing bot is good for only big hits. As far as I see it, you and I see eye to eye on this matter. It is good when healing little amounts, as I basically stated in a Cygnus situation above. And also, Mechs have been out for 6 days. Do you really think you can consider yourself to be fully experienced in that time? Less than 1% of the Mech population is at the point where they can boss well.
At least we have a little grasp of what Cygnus is like. Van Leon is basically still a mystery as I see it? Can't find any videos on him.[/quote]

Because a good bishop wouldn't be tanking touch damage to avoid 1/1 in the first place right? Or power elixer before everyone else to come to their aid faster. It should be REALLY easy to turn off MG with all of the defensive skills a full party can provide nowadays.

I don't really know why you're arguing in the case of the cygnus queen. It's extremely obvious she isn't meant to be beaten until key content still in development phase is released, so arguing strategies is pretty useless.

I don't know what you're talking about but i've had experience with mechs 6 MONTHS before it was even announced for this version. Also, we have less grasp for the van leon fight than we do for the cygnus fight. The cygnus queen is the end game boss in this game right now so of course information will be easier to find than van leon. The koreans don't consider van leon to be worth fighting except for a few key items, and ESPECIALLY not for experience rewards. Spadow has said this before.

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited
deathleaper

[quote=Takeback3r]And any van leon squad stupid enough to go without a bishop in the party is doomed to fail. No one in any maple community really has a good grasp of how difficult the fights you just brought up are, so your point is a little moot. The fact that you are susceptible to any kind of damage after 1/1 still stands, and healing bot does not react fast enough for a player to rely on for recovering from 1/1.

The class CAN heal, but this does not mean they can do so well enough to compare with other healing skills. Use power elixers when hit by 1/1 in pot cooldown situations and use healing bot to heal from lesser attacks. Any experienced mech should come to that conclusion naturally.[/quote]

Because a bishop can really heal when he's got no mana right? Or is dead due to lack of mana for MG. Infinity can only last so long.

As far as I can see on Empress Cygnus, in the beginning, the mobs don't hit too hard. Maybe 6-7k? Anyone who will go there are probably the ones who have washed enough to take two hits or so, and probably more with HB. Seeing that the most common high dps class are NLs, they have insane avoid and are likely to have 4-5+ misses between getting hit each time. You can basically heal that back within each attack. All this is theory of course.

I never said that the healing bot is good for only big hits. As far as I see it, you and I see eye to eye on this matter. It is good when healing little amounts, as I basically stated in a Cygnus situation above. And also, Mechs have been out for 6 days. Do you really think you can consider yourself to be fully experienced in that time? Less than 1% of the Mech population is at the point where they can boss well.
At least we have a little grasp of what Cygnus is like. Van Leon is basically still a mystery as I see it? Can't find any videos on him.

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited
Takeback3r

[quote=deathleaper]@Takeback3r: Look at Empress Cygnus and Van Leon, the pot cd there, and yea...[/quote]

And any van leon squad stupid enough to go without a bishop in the party is doomed to fail. No one in any maple community really has a good grasp of how difficult the fights you just brought up are, so your point is a little moot. The fact that you are susceptible to any kind of damage after 1/1 still stands, and healing bot does not react fast enough for a player to rely on for recovering from 1/1.

The class CAN heal, but this does not mean they can do so well enough to compare with other healing skills. Use power elixers when hit by 1/1 in pot cooldown situations and use healing bot to heal from lesser attacks. Any experienced mech should come to that conclusion naturally.

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited
deathleaper

@Takeback3r: Look at Empress Cygnus and Van Leon, the pot cd there, and yea...

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited
Takeback3r

And how long does it take to get hit by some other attack and die after 1/1? The instant the invincibility wears off? It isn't as useful as you think it is for serious bosses.

PS: Your trick is well known.

Reply January 25, 2011 - edited