The Problem with Gollux
Okay let me state that i am basing [b]SOME[/b] of this on Spadow's video in CMST.
Problems:
Exp Loss on Death and Frequent OHKO's
Shop and one time buy
ridiculous pot CD
Pots don't heal
HP Hike seems super incredible
Lets start off with the most annoying thing with Gollux:
-You lose a ton of Exp especially when losing 10%-8% straight when fighting the head. As far as I know every other boss with a Death count does not deduct EXP on death. It seems to me that this is actually intentional, which makes no sense seeing as Gollux loves to hit through defense buffs and damage reduction at a 50% dmg per hit. I got lucky cause of Kaiser's healing that i didn't get 2 shotted. It goes much deeper than that, Gollux [b]LOVES[/b] to OHKO you constantly and in all stages might i add. I have died numerous times to some freak attack that i cant perceive or understand at the shoulders at FULL HP. That is not all folks, even killing the abdomen is a huge pain. You have no place to effectively kill it on top of being snared and the snare can kill you even if the bar isn't full. almost every attack the abdomen is 50% and sometimes OHKO randomly. Its not super hard to kill but it makes no sense in the long run for it to just randomly kill you. I say that cause even avoiding it properly theres a high chance you'll still get killed.
-Shop one time buy.... I'll simply state my belief that the store replenishes every 7 days which would make more sense. Most of the stuff in the store is crap and if you can only buy once this will likely only help people out once and the boss will eventually remain untouched. So hopefully these items replenish its my belief that it will. Still its a problem but it might be there to combat farmers like me who already have bought Superior items and wish to scroll them.
-Pot CD and no heal from pots seems a little ridiculous to me, but maybe i'm just whining at this point. No? I don't know, but what I do know is that the pot CD wouldn't seem so bad and out of place if it weren't for 50% damage and OHKO. Not only that, but I use power elixirs and to no avail, they dont heal me at all. I'm not sure why but that is the case I have witnessed. I'm not sure about Potion pot i will test it out, but it is affected by pot CD so thats gonna kill some sales of that. I like the idea of challenging but with the current set up Pot CD, and in some cases, pots not healing is just beyond stupid.
-The hike in HP seems ludicrous and I'm stating this as a Kaiser... that should stand for something. Granted I know i shouldn't be able to Solo Hard or Hell with my range but normal? With Maplestory's "Broken super OP class averaging 500k-700k through his PDR i can't even find time to avoid his attacks to lay down any damage. On top of which were fighting against a Guaranteed kill system with the mobs that can easily be killed but just as easily will be disregarded and missed while trying to spam a 1v1 DPS skill. I know I will get people saying well learn to not spam... please don't. Don't do it because you either have not done gollux yet or are failing to realized just how easy you die even on easy. It would make more sense to do that if we had more lives and a way to avoid his 50% dmg hits and random OHKOs. 5 lives even on Normal isnt enough to give even a funded character a fighting chance. Imagine fighting Von Bon with no tells that hes about to OHKO you... its like that but worse really. Compounded with the fact of Pot CD, low lives, Exp loss, and an incredible difficulty spike its deterring players who should be able to solo a normal version of a boss to even kill him so most are just farming.
TL;DR: Stuff seems broken and doesn't make much sense with Gollux
Final words: Im not trying to whine I'm just saying Nexon should give it a second glance. I recommend killing with a party but with low lives even on normal with the way it attacks and all the snares he seems to unleash i don't think there is really any point at this moment in time. If you guys agree with me thank you. I like to believe i have a valid point. If you don't agree with me thats cool too, but I offer this retort if I can't kill normal how will a party of unfunded 130's who are trying out for the item set feel about dying and not killing it even on easy? Thats all i ask
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Just soloed hard gollux ^o^
I used milles with final cut at the jaw, kept moving left/right as the head turns around, the arms dont kill me and i have my carte to heal.
Eyes - I swapped to arrow platter and left a turret on the bottom to prevent the countdown. Went up, penombre to the edge (so I didn't die from the one hit ko) and use arrow platter to kill eyes.
Forehead - Throw everything at him before he throws everything at you.
My range is only 600k too, so you should be able to kill normal with ease, if not hard.
... I have no clue what everyone has read but I have no problem soloing on Easy and some people actually read the bullet points. Pot CD isnt really an Issue but I dont heal even when using a Power elixir... that to me is an issue. Plus from what ive already done at Gollux I can tell when hes going to attack.... thats not hard but really the problem is the OHKOs are completely random and hit through grand armor which is 30% damage reduction. I can dodge just fine I promise.
I love how people think im having any trouble with the body parts Ive already farmed a Superior ring... Does anyone read?
My point is that if all this random stuff happens on Normal and I can't lay any significant damage on "NORMAL = 2 body parts dead" I feel bad for anyone thinking they can party through Hell or Hard.
However I am going to spend my time today learning his pattern today and coming up with a strategy but really 5 lives i believe is not enough.
Thank you all for your input
I managed to solo it with 2 deaths, just learn it's attacks, you can easily solo the shoulders and the body without dying. From what it looks like, you are stronger than me, plus, I am a Hero, which isn't a such a strong class.
Here are some tips that can help:
Shoulders: When you see branches falling, [b]fall, or go to the previous portal[/b] because if you wait long enough, it will OHKO you. If you need to repot, do the same.
Body: The attack of the body is that 'seduce' thing (the one that you need to press left and right), you can avoid it by being on empty spots while it summons branches.
[quote=AckarRed]Yea, I call that a BS excuse. I've seen them do many things that proves that Nexon can do a lot more creative ideas rather than giving a boss 2bil+ Hp and OHKOs. If anything, they're not even trying to think of a creative idea.[/quote]
what can you do then? boss that has 1 hp but 99.9% miss rate and stun/seduce you 24/7?
@mythology100: Yeah, but that's glitched right now. You get the same rewards either way.
[quote=wizardq]Gollux has pretty low hp if you kill all the body parts. Idk what you are talking about.[/quote]
The thing is, to complete the Gollux equip set, you will need to obtain 2 more of the equips not on the shop, but as a drop from defeating Gollux's Head without destroying the other parts of the body.
[quote=freezenlight]nexon doesnt really understand how a good boss should be.
they think that giving it a 10000billion hp is a good thing.
they believe that a skill that OHKO like akarium makes a boss "strong"
But then again its 2d based so its not easy to make creative bosses X.x[/quote]
Gollux has pretty low hp if you kill all the body parts. Idk what you are talking about.
From 17% to 0% and wow those deaths were absolutely stupid, how the hell do you even survive there for more than 10 seconds without getting OHKO'd by a massive hand taking up 1/4 of the screen?
EDIT: Nvm I forgot to weaken his entire body.
Yeah I lost 20% died 4 times. Dx
My issue is that i will randomly dc at any point while in gollux' body. I could barely do 1 full run before my maple would crash. No where else in maple story causes me to dc.
.... i had no problems with gollux... and i saw damage increase O_O....
at least you can enter the boss thing, i cant even set foot in there because i get a black screen for a background and its super laggy >.<
For the pot cd, just walk out of portal then pot again.
@AckarRed: One thing they did do differently was to bring the concept of moving to multiple maps to fight Gollex. I think that seems pretty interesting and fun.
I believe it's something they could build on for future boss fights.
[quote=freezenlight]nexon doesnt really understand how a good boss should be.
they think that giving it a 10000billion hp is a good thing.
they believe that a skill that OHKO like akarium makes a boss "strong"
But then again its 2d based so its not easy to make creative bosses X.x[/quote]
Yea, I call that a BS excuse. I've seen them do many things that proves that Nexon can do a lot more creative ideas rather than giving a boss 2bil+ Hp and OHKOs. If anything, they're not even trying to think of a creative idea.
Exp Loss....don't boss while leveling or don't die.
One time buy......If it is, its so the equips are hard to be broken? Maybe. You can also do scroll service at the cost of spending NX on Scissors.
Pot CD......Party with healers. If its too hard, get party or play a weaker version by killing body parts. Pot CD is actually a norm for bosses that give good stuff.
Hike in HP....work with it or party. Playing solo has a price.
Edit: OHKOs. I just played with Chaos Vellum today. All of his attacks are OHKOs. I already started to adapt to him in one run. With the exception of Magnus (at least afaik pre-dawnviel), most bosses ohkos are dodge-able unless you have a fail dodge/double jump skill, which for most classes get fixed in RED if its a problem. Outside of that, most bosses give 2-3 seconds time and have tells.
For the most part your thread sounds like the average high level boss.
nexon doesnt really understand how a good boss should be.
they think that giving it a 10000billion hp is a good thing.
they believe that a skill that OHKO like akarium makes a boss "strong"
But then again its 2d based so its not easy to make creative bosses X.x
OHKOs happen with a lot of bosses. happens to me at Velderoth -_-