Guideish Sw Set Vs Fafnir Set, Which one will win?
First time trying for "guideish" thing
Everything is scrolled with Prime Scrolls
SW Glove, shoes and cape are transmuted from 15 star thief tyrants, so stats will depend how it they were scrolled etc. I've made the stats a bit under what they were on equips that i looked (ex. + 115 dex and + 119 luk from tyrant gloves, made it +115 to both)
Table Of Contest:
1. Set Effects
2. Comparing
3. Conclusion
4. Prices
[b]1. Set Effects:[/b]
[b]SW:[/b]
2 set: all stats + 25 w.att +20
3 set: all stats +75 w.att +35
4 set: all stats +95 w.att 48
5 set: w/m.def + 100 acc + 330 avoid +130
6 set: +20% maxhp/mp w/m.def + 200 30% dmg to bosses
[b]Fafnir:[/b]
2 set: +20 main and secondary stat +1000 hp/mp
3 set: +10% maxhp/mp 50 w.att
4 set: dmg to bosses +30%
[b]2. Comparing:[/b]
[b]4 Set SW:[/b]
hat: 38 all stats 100 hp/mp + 90 all stats
overall: 36 all stats 900hp/mp + 120 all stats
shoes: 12 all stats 300hp/mp + 115 all stats + 150 w.att
gloves: 13 all stats 22w.att + 115 dex&luk stats + 135 w.att
99 all stats + 325 all stats + 115dex&luk + 307 w.att
tyrant cape: 170 all stats 185 w.att
Terminus weapon: 64dex 40 luk + 30 all stats, 269 w.att
200 all stat + 64dex + 40 luk + 454 w.att
[b]Total stats:[/b]
STR: + 624
DEX: + 803
LUK: + 779
W.ATT 761
[b]With set effect:[/b]
STR: + 819
DEX: + 998
LUK: + 974
W.ATT 864
HP/MP: + 1300
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[b]With Fafnir:[/b]
Hat: 40 dex 40 luk 360 hp/mp 2 w.att + 130 all stats
top: 30 dex 30 luk 2 w.att + 90 all stats
bot: 30 dex 30 luk 2 w.att + 90 all stats
weapon: 40 dex 40 luk + 30 all stats 228 w.att
dex&luk +140 6 w.att + 310 all stats + 228 w.att
tyrant shoes: 165 all stats 185 w.att
cape: 170 all stats 185 w.att
gloves: 125 dex & luk stat + 140 w.att
dex&luk 125 + 335 all stats + 510 w.att
[b]Total stats:[/b]
STR: +645
DEX: +910
LUK: +910
W.ATT 738
[b]With set effect:[/b]
STR: + 645
DEX: + 930
LUK: + 930
W.ATT 788
HP/MP: +360
[b]SW vs Fafnir[/b]
STR: SW wins by 174
DEX: SW wins by 68
LUK: SW wins by 44
W.ATT SW wins by 76
[b]Extras:[/b]
Fafnir Wins:
+ 10% maxHP/MP
+ 30 % boss
+ 60 more HP
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[b]6 set SW[/b]
[b]Scrolled:[/b]
hat: 38 all stats 100 hp/mp + 90 all stats
overall: 36 all stats 900hp/mp + 120 all stats
shoes: 12 all stats 300hp/mp + 115 all stats + 150 w.att
gloves: 13 all stats 22w.att + 115 dex&luk stats + 135 w.att
cape: 13 all stats 330 hp/mp + 120 all stats + 155 w.att
weapon: 45 dex&luk + 30 all stats + 227 w.att
112 all stats + 45 dex&luk + 445 all stats + 115 dex&luk + 689 w.att
[b]Total stats:[/b]
STR: + 557
DEX: + 717
LUK: + 717
W.ATT 689
[b]With set effect:[/b]
STR: + 752
DEX: + 912
LUK: + 912
W.ATT 787
HP/MP: 1630
[b]SW vs Fafnir[/b]
STR: SW wins by 107
DEX: Fafnir wins by 18
LUK: Fafnir wins by 18
W.ATT Fafnir wins by 1
[b]Extras:[/b]
SW Wins:
+ 10% maxHP/MP
+ 600 more HP
+ 300 w/m.def
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[b]3. Conclusion [/b]
While 4 set SW is better than Fafnir set or 6 set SW, you will be losing 30% boss and 10/20% HP, while gaining 76 w.att, more stats
and +1 speed tier weapon. and 6 set SW wins Fafnir with STR, maxhp, hp and def, but it looses with DEX, LUK and W.ATT
SW 4 Set might be the best end set you can get, if you can go without 30% boss and +10% maxhp. SW 6 Set might wins Fafnir set barely, while giving more HP and maxHP.
Fafnir is treadable, while SW isn't, so take that in account too
[b]4. Prices[/b]
How much each set costs clean? (as of 11.6.2014, SW sets with tyrants)
Fafnir Set:
19,1bil
SW 4 Set:
28,1bil (w/o any tyrants: 9,5bil)
SW 6 Set:
27,9bil (w/o any tyrants: 9,3bil)
Hope this helps all Xenon's choose their equips
13 Comments • Newest first
[quote=NeoShinron]Uhhhhh....
Master... Please Explain?
(You just got a pupil and an opportunity to explain what enhancements "washing out" means).
I think the theory is... Wrong?
The ATK increase from enhancements should carry over to transposed items.... Unless I am incorrect.
If I AM wrong in thinking that... Then the difference...
No....
I guess the true answer lies in further analysis? (in my case it does).
Long way of saying.... "What da ya' mean"?[/quote]
It's just a mathematical technicality. Since the stats are carried over from pre-transposition, you end up with the same +stat from enhancements on your Tyrants both before and after transposing. Therefore you can simplify the math by assuming Tyrants have no stars.
To give an example
Tyrant cape + 150 all stat from 5 stars
Transpose to SW cape
Final result : SW Cape + 150 all stat.
Tyrant cape + 150 all stat - SW cape - 150 all stat = Tyrant cape - SW cape
[quote=Axnslicer]Oh, not really. You can just switch the SW glove for a SW Cape. You also don't really need to use 15 star Tyrants, since in the end enhancements wash out and only the base stats matter in the comparison.[/quote]
Uhhhhh....
Master... Please Explain?
(You just got a pupil and an opportunity to explain what enhancements "washing out" means).
I think the theory is... Wrong?
The ATK increase from enhancements should carry over to transposed items.... Unless I am incorrect.
If I AM wrong in thinking that... Then the difference...
No....
I guess the true answer lies in further analysis? (in my case it does).
Long way of saying.... "What da ya' mean"?
@Axnslicer: well i got everything on notepad with just the equips itself, i could change everything to that one, ofc need to change gloves to dojo + like dimension gloves (as most have dojo + some other lvl 120+ gloves)
[quote=Chrisonmale]@Axnslicer: So you want me to put a notce: "NOTE THESE ARE IF YOU HAVE UNLIMITED FUNDS" would you be happy then? also it was meant to show you difference with END GAME equips[/quote]
Oh, not really. You can just switch the SW glove for a SW Cape. You also don't really need to use 15 star Tyrants, since in the end enhancements wash out and only the base stats matter in the comparison.
@Axnslicer: So you want me to put a notce: "NOTE THESE ARE IF YOU HAVE UNLIMITED FUNDS" would you be happy then? also it was meant to show you difference with END GAME equips
[quote=Chrisonmale]@Axnslicer: The cost for equips are clean, and i used used the global price for tyrants (escpecially gloves as none has sold in Scania)[/quote]
Yes, that's what's unfair. You're assuming 15 star Tyrant gloves are basically free, when most people would actually prefer to use Dojo gloves, which are actually free.
@Axnslicer: The cost for equips are clean, and i used used the global price for tyrants (escpecially gloves as none has sold in Scania)
[quote=Chrisonmale]@Axnslicer: Umm with the "while gaining 76 w.att, more stats
and +1 speed tier weapon" i do mean the 4 set SW
"While 4 set SW is better than Fafnir set or 6 set SW, you will be losing 30% boss and 10/20% HP, while gaining... " or isn't it obvious?
[/quote]
Ah, I see, you're not using just 4 set SW, you're using 4 set SW+Terminus, which makes it much more competitive. Just a few things then.
1. If you switch to a Fafnir/SW weapon, you lose the Jaeger and much of the weapon att advantage from 4 set+terminus disappears.
2. Fafnir has a top/bot instead of overall, and therefore gets 1 extra equip to potential.
3. These cost calculations are being thrown off by the gloves. Since most people won't have 15 star Tyrant gloves, it's a bit unrealistic to ignore the Dojo gloves vs SW gloves scenario.
@Axnslicer: Umm with the "while gaining 76 w.att, more stats
and +1 speed tier weapon" i do mean the 4 set SW
"While 4 set SW is better than Fafnir set or 6 set SW, you will be losing 30% boss and 10/20% HP, while gaining... " or isn't it obvious?
@NeoShinron
With no other equips? Sounds about right
[quote=Chrisonmale]
While 4 set SW is better than Fafnir set or 6 set SW, you will be losing 30% boss and 10/20% HP, while gaining 76 w.att, more stats
and +1 speed tier weapon
Hope this helps all Xenon's choose their equips[/quote]
Umm, Fafnir and SW whip are the same attack speed, 5. Only the Terminus Jaeger is faster at 4.
So if I know that I will always be a xenon... Then what's the best?
Lol I used to want SW gloves but now I see they'd over ride my dojo gloves.
What do you think the range would be on a xenon who just wore the sweet water 6 set?
All unpotted / unscrolled? I think that just that set effect alone on a xenon would give him like 200k range with no other equips on at all.
Regardless of the viability of the SW set in terms of stats, sadly the cost of SW being untradeable forever after equipping is the number one reason people don't go for the set.
(Except in one special case, but then the buyer will have to deal with it, which leads back to the main point.)
What's also good is the 4set SW (gloves shoes cape weapon) and 3 set fafnir (hat top bottom)