Who is the best in Omok Windia?
I'm looking for those that are exceptional Omok-ers in Windia!
Who do YOU think is the best?
Usernames and other such things are much appreciated!
By the way, feel free to play me!
IGNs are AustinAsian and ChunChild.
EDIT: I was searching online for any trace of XtremeCyborg (I'm really good at finding people online ) and I came up with this old ranking system:
Skill Level 0: Ignorant
A person with skill level 0 does not know how to play Omok, or somone that so brain dead that they lack the basic brain functions required to play (IE counting to 5)
Skill Level 1: Newb
This person understands the rules of the game but has little experiance playing. A person of skill level one understands that if 3 are in a row they must block one side but many times does not see them.
Skill Level 2: Beginner
This person is notices when there is a threat but does not think about next move. A person of skill level two relies on his opponent to Not see a basic threat.
Skill Level 3: Average
This person sometimes thinks about the next move ahead. They will unlikely miss a basic threat when defending. When a person of skill level three attacks they rely on luck to form a sequence that can't be blocked. This person does not see or plan the 2&3 threat.
Skill Level 4: Skilled
This person is beginning to see how some formations cannot be blocked. They recognize the 2&3 threat and the 3&3 threat. This person will make simultaneous threats and hopes that they will be able to form a 2&3 or a 3&3. When defending they will notice these attacks most the time.
Skill Level 5: Advanced
This person sees the 2&3 and 3&3 threats naturally and will not fail to see one. When attacking a person of skill level five will try to form one of these formations.
Skill Level 6: Pro
This person is looking several turns ahead. They try to think of ways to form the 2&3 or 3&3 attacks while making other attacks. A person of skill level 6 thinks of the same attacking options for the opponent when blocking than they do for themselves while attacking. At times a pro can tell when the game will end 5 turns early.
Skill Level 7: Godly
This person is always thinking several turns ahead even if they are not planning attacks. A person of skill level seven considers the usefulness of his move by how many options it makes available to himself and close for his opponent. When planning attacks this player will be able to plan attacks up to 7-9 moves in advance, and will see similar attack options for his opponent.
Skill Level 8: Beyond God-Like
(This is the skill level of someone I would consider to own me in Omok almost every time unless I'm lucky I don't know much about this kind of player because I don't know any) But they would be able to see many many moves ahead very quickly in just a few seconds.
Skill Level 9: Perfect
This is the ideal perfect play. This would pretty much have to be a computer that weighs out every possable game with each move. If it is possible for player 1 to win every time 100% a person of skill level nine would win every game they started.
How would you rank yourself?
62 Comments • Newest first
@RayPist: Nah... I've won around 1 out of 100 LOL.
I'm not the best... I just like playing the great so I can get better (I doubt I can improve by constantly facing these Hene Hoes...)
Why such good memory, guise?
I can't remember anyone I play unless they're on my buddly list... and even then there are 100 people to keep up with!
@RayPist: Wait, have I ever played you?
I remember winning at least 3-4 while at LHC cause I got kicked from my party haha
Now I remember you. Still dont remember logging haha But I do remember you beating me once out of five or so. You had a nice defensive strategy that took awhile to best.
[quote=stephendw]@chunchild239: haha im trying[/quote]
Good!
OT: I'm online and willing to Omok right now for anyone that wants to.
[quote=beiabe1]@AkatsukiDark HE'S TROLLING! HE'S PRO AT OMOK AND PVP.
And uhh, I've met few good omok players o-o.
I guess I'm okay. Uberlegends is pretty pro QQ. And AeolusPrayer is REALLY GOOD. Play him if you want to lose .[/quote]
No way bro. I suck.
@RayPist: Hm.
You were in RiotGirls? @.@
IGN?
@SJzombi: I don't know that feel... Sadly.
They really should create an Omok King medal or something for those with a certain amount of points.
A similar score? Now I need to know what character you used for 90% of my games I had an Elo ranking of over 2600. If you played me with anyone over 2500 I would immediately recognize the name. Still entirely skeptical about the logging off incident and attack to my reputation
[quote=chunchild239]Haha 1mil is loads for me but I've gotten to the point where I only use mesos for betting purposes anyways...
Yeah, I've convinced a few people from other worlds to come here to play me in Omok (They're really good), so I've lost about 10 matches from people with a score of 2000... They drop my score like 25 points! [/quote]
Losing at 3000 points is -100 points per loss.
[quote=RayPist]@chunchild239: I played him with a character that had a similar score, so his didn't plummet.
A million mesars means nothing to me, as well, though the reason I remember is because I thought it was strange someone would log off over 1m :x[/quote]
Haha 1mil is loads for me but I've gotten to the point where I only use mesos for betting purposes anyways...
Yeah, I've convinced a few people from other worlds to come here to play me in Omok (They're really good), so I've lost about 10 matches from people with a score of 2000... They drop my score like 25 points!
[quote=beiabe1]@AkatsukiDark HE'S TROLLING! HE'S PRO AT OMOK AND PVP.
And uhh, I've met few good omok players o-o.
I guess I'm okay. Uberlegends is pretty pro QQ. And AeolusPrayer is REALLY GOOD. Play him if you want to lose .[/quote]
hey ally
im pretty good at omok
[quote=beiabe1]@AkatsukiDark HE'S TROLLING! HE'S PRO AT OMOK AND PVP.
And uhh, I've met few good omok players o-o.
I guess I'm okay. Uberlegends is pretty pro QQ. And AeolusPrayer is REALLY GOOD. Play him if you want to lose .[/quote]
I play Uber almost daily just to give him his daily dose of rage.
I don't think I've ever played AeolusPrayer...
EDIT: I got IGNs confused... I beat someone with the username "UberNovas" everyday... Sorry ~_~
@iTardz: I usually avoid the knight pattern because anyone can mess you up if they know what they're doing. On the other hand, the 4/3 pattern can be sneaky and even avoidable if you look ahead far enough.
I use the knight pattern because it is easy to do a 4/3.
@AkatsukiDark HE'S TROLLING! HE'S PRO AT OMOK AND PVP.
And uhh, I've met few good omok players o-o.
I guess I'm okay. Uberlegends is pretty pro QQ. And AeolusPrayer is REALLY GOOD. Play him if you want to lose .
[quote=Tausz]@RayPist: Yea Ive been on break for awhile but I played in the dojo thousands of times and have lost before and always paid up. I would remember if I logged for some reason and I would have found you if id had. Not to sound like a jerk but a million mesos is nothing to me and my omok record and reputiation is worth thousands of times more than that. Im sorry if you had other thoughts. Also what was the Ign you beat me with?[/quote]
Haha same! I always stare at the screen for a few seconds in dumbshock when I realize my score (which is significantly lower than all of you pros but still comparatively high) is going to take a huge plummet.
@RayPist: Yea Ive been on break for awhile but I played in the dojo thousands of times and have lost before and always paid up. I would remember if I logged for some reason and I would have found you if id had. Not to sound like a jerk but a million mesos is nothing to me and my omok record and reputiation is worth thousands of times more than that. Im sorry if you had other thoughts. Also what was the Ign you beat me with?
Me 232 wins 0 losses GET @ MEEEE.
[b] raypist [/b] must have been some misunderstanding I dont remember you beating me but if you did Ive always paid
[b]raypist [/b] you know Adam is wayyy to pro for me
[b]RedKrayon[/b] Good to see you around in Windia
[b]chunchild239[/b] Austin since were 1-1 you need to come so we can break our tie haha
CarcharasWIN was pretty good when I played him.
(what happened to the MWLB Omok events? What happened to the MWLB, period?)
@krnxben: That's like saying chess is a kid's game. Omok is almost the same thing, but less war oriented and there are less rules/strategies. In the end, the game will almost always go to the more experienced person.
@Singaporean: Off topic, but back in middle school I always wondered if it was "Singaporean" or "Singapese" because both sound weird. OT: I always wanted to play Match Cards as well (I have around 50 sets), but my PC lags so much that I only see every other card...
@stephendw: Practice makes genius tier!
Someone play against me. i want to improve.
I don't know who is now but i've played krayon and very few people match him. Old guildie Cindy was virtually unbeatable as well but she has long since quit.
Either way, i'm glad to be the top matchcard player in windia. Mostly because people dislike cards but it's fun (6x5 pls)
NO its not it gets really intense sometimes. Not trying to be mean though.
Just play logically and it's not that hard lol.
It's like Chess! but easier ^-^
@AkatsukiDark: Haha sure! I'm not the best, but I've learned some tricks from them!
I'm usually on most of the time at night, so just try and whisper me every so often. I'd say to add me, but I just maxed my buddy list at 100/100. I'll delete someone later.
[quote=yumm123]Hm. Maybe your right but i have never faced someone like that. I always blocked their moves eventually or i die. Anyways thanks! This is really good to know! [/quote]
Ya! No problem mang! Keep up with the good stuff
[quote=SJzombi]This blocking method can easily be outmaneuvered by optimizing the diamond or X formation. In the attackers fourth turn, there will already be two potential 3 combos which leaves the defender defenseless at one of the three's. Of course with continuation of the pattern whilst setting up a considerable buffer zone for the kill move, it's literally impossible for the defender to block all combinations of three's using this method.[/quote]
Hm. Maybe your right but i have never faced someone like that. I always blocked their moves eventually or i die. Anyways thanks! This is really good to know!
[quote=yumm123]@AkatsukiDark ok. My strategy for omok is just to try to block the other person. If you see at least 2 IN A ROW! Block him. Hes gonna get 3 if you check. Btw make sure you check for your opponents pieces and look for how much the have in a row. ( Horizontal, Vertical, Diagonal all count ) You can also sneak fully make an attack as well while blocking your opponent but try to keep a look out on their pieces if they have 3 in a row and you haven't blocked any side then you lose. So tactics are: Like they say defense is the best offense. So sacrifice your turn to BLOCK if you have to instead of attacking. Attack in exotic places and try to fill in holes that get you many in a row for example an intersection. Well i have been rambling on to much hope this helped! [/quote]
This blocking method can easily be outmaneuvered by optimizing the diamond or X formation. In the attackers fourth turn, there will already be two potential 3 combos which leaves the defender defenseless at one of the three's. Of course with continuation of the pattern whilst setting up a considerable buffer zone for the kill move, it's literally impossible for the defender to block all combinations of three's using this method.
@AkatsukiDark ok. My strategy for omok is just to try to block the other person. If you see at least 2 IN A ROW! Block him. Hes gonna get 3 if you check. Btw make sure you check for your opponents pieces and look for how much the have in a row. ( Horizontal, Vertical, Diagonal all count ) You can also sneak fully make an attack as well while blocking your opponent but try to keep a look out on their pieces if they have 3 in a row and you haven't blocked any side then you lose. So tactics are: Like they say defense is the best offense. So sacrifice your turn to BLOCK if you have to instead of attacking. Attack in exotic places and try to fill in holes that get you many in a row for example an intersection. Well i have been rambling on to much hope this helped!
I play j00 z omakz.
1305 winz
92 losez
1 tiez
3003 pointz
[quote=chunchild239]@Antim0ny: What.
@Shnergledergle: Not necessarily. Unless one of them is super paranoid and blocks everything very early, the match will usually go to the one who can read ahead the most.
@AkatsukiDark: It takes practice. I recommend playing someone who is willing to teach you advanced tactics and capable of beating the average player.
@pojo11: Haha hey^^ I don't really know anyone in your guild other than that NoofNoof girl.[/quote]
Mind teaching me then?
@Antim0ny: What.
@Shnergledergle: Not necessarily. Unless one of them is super paranoid and blocks everything very early, the match will usually go to the one who can read ahead the most.
@AkatsukiDark: It takes practice. I recommend playing someone who is willing to teach you advanced tactics and capable of beating the average player.
@pojo11: Haha hey^^ I don't really know anyone in your guild other than that NoofNoof girl.
[quote=chunchild239]That graph paper at work idea is pretty smart, hehehe. But what do you mean by "i usually dont stop my own x's (first-turn piece)"?
Nice, I'm going to have to try this. Thanks for the tips![/quote]
i'm still the best!1!
Hey Austin! . I'm pretty bad at omok but some of my guildies are pretty good. Typical<3
xhuanhuan?
But man, I like omok. Too bad I suck at it though. Any advice?
[quote=RedKrayon]@chunchild239: its the way people block me. which side they block my 3s
i play against myself sometimes when im bored at work on graph paper (kinda stupid lol) but i usually dont stop my own x's (first-turn piece)
when i play i usually just go with the flow and think if i should go offense/defense while you make ur move
i think about 7 moves ahead..but that isnt hard to do for me, its nature, practice and experience[/quote]
That graph paper at work idea is pretty smart, hehehe. But what do you mean by "i usually dont stop my own x's (first-turn piece)"?
Nice, I'm going to have to try this. Thanks for the tips!
@iEatNoobz: Nah, you must be pretty good (Or I must've been doing my TV/Omok marathon) in order for you to beat me twice!
Keep practicing! That's how I improved!
[quote=chunchild239]AND HERE IS THE MAN WHO WAS SO PARANOID, HE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR EITHER OF US TO WIN: BLOCKS ANYTHING WITH MORE THAN 2 IN A ROW.
First legit tie I've had in my life.
@iEatNoobz I remember you, but I don't remember losing. Unless you meant that we played multiple games and you won some of them. o.o I have a bucketlist of people who are better than me... I guess I forgot you?[/quote]
Ya that's what I ment XD
There's no way I can best someone like you multiple times in a row... Yet 8D
[quote=XGoldGunnerX]Rematch, I'm not done losing... Q_Q[/quote]
AND HERE IS THE MAN WHO WAS SO PARANOID, HE MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR EITHER OF US TO WIN: BLOCKS ANYTHING WITH MORE THAN 2 IN A ROW.
First legit tie I've had in my life.
@iEatNoobz I remember you, but I don't remember losing. Unless you meant that we played multiple games and you won some of them. o.o I have a bucketlist of people who are better than me... I guess I forgot you?
Hey Austin C=
Not that you remember me though LOL
I think I beat you once or twice in the hene pot shop on my Evan OnyxSonata =P
@RedKrayon: Haha, I have a maths test tomorrow as well and I keep disconnecting today (I lost around 50 points from that. ).
Yeah, thank god for double 3s. I'm pretty sure I found a way for first player to always win if that rule didn't exist.
It's obvious you do the 4/3 combo like most experienced players, but you seem to be able to force opponents to constantly block until you hit that combo immediately after you take the offensive. I guess the question I'm asking is how far ahead do you look into the game? So far, I can usually only predict up to 3 moves in advance (and I'm occasionally wrong)... You seem to have a certain ace-in-a-hole that allows you to almost always win (Unless the opponent possibly takes the initiative first).
Funfact: I tried the whole "omok irl" thing, but no one at my school was able to catch on that well (Kind of predictable when they believe your 2=1 proof)... It's complicated explaining the double 3 rule.
@siuttybears I suck at cards because my computer consistently lags so much that I only get to see every other card. >.<
this kid = =
@beiabe1:
I see u a lot at hene :O I wanna play u ^_^ i have no wins and about 20 losses in omonk LOL. I started giving out free wins after i loss 7 in a row Eff3.
CARDS ARE COOLER
I'll make a mule in Windia just to come play Omok with ya'll, it's been my game since the day it came out and I've met some exceptional players.
[quote=Wangsihan]lol, i am sure that you are not the best one then. I've seen a quite few people with thousands win. They were very pro.[/quote]
1. I never said I was the best. I just said I'm looking for the best... I want to face people better than me so I can improve.
2. The more wins you have doesn't necessarily mean you're better than someone. It just means you've played longer. Unless everyone improves at the same rate, there are likely people with 0 wins that are better than people with 3,000 wins.
3. Ever hear of free wins? Many people who have "a few thousand wins" have just paid some noob 100k for 500 free wins. The sad thing they don't realize though is that your points don't increase from few "auto-wins" and if it does, their score only increases by 1 point.
@RedKrayon: Sorry, I disconnected on our last match!
I THOUGHT I GOT BETTER! :'(
Eh. Time to spend my summer with college professors to improve.
Do you use game theory or just have certain set patterns that are more complicated than most?
lol, i am sure that you are not the best one then. I've seen a quite few people with thousands win. They were very pro.
edit:opps
@RayPist: oh lol because u said, he was blue but really yellow
blue + yellow = green lol
[quote=Wangsihan]ummm...thinking about come back to the ms just to challenge those omokers. (just kidding)
According to my guildies/bls(including jenny), I am a heck pro omoker even though i haven't omoked in a long time. I believe i got around 450 wins and 200losses.
how many wins and losses you have?[/quote]
Right now:
2312 points.
422 Wins.
134 Losses.
11 Ties.
ummm...thinking about come back to the ms just to challenge those omokers. (just kidding)
According to my guildies/bls(including jenny), I am a heck pro omoker even though i haven't omoked in a long time. I believe i got around 450 wins and 200losses.
how many wins and losses you have?
[quote=Fwog] #33 Omoker. Game on Austin, I bet I can beat you! [/quote]
How do you know you're #33? O.o I've always wondered how to do direct rankings.