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my neighbor totoro

not sure how many people have seen this, but i just read this and i am literally mentally disturbed and shocked.

http://my.opera.com/sukekomashi-gaijin/blog/tonari-no-totoro (might be better to read along here because there are pictures)

text from source:
The story is far from a happy one. According to him, and apparently a popular urban legend in itself, Totoro and his magical friends are in fact death gods, that is to say the gods of death, the grim reaper. Pretty cute for a grim reaper, huh?

It begins with the susuwatari (a.k.a. makkurokurosuke), those little black balls that they find in the kitchen. The story goes that if you see the susuwatari or Totoro, death is close.

The old woman says that adults can't see the susuwatari or the other mystical beasts. Unexplained though, is why she saw them when she was young. Kanta, the old woman's grandson doesn't seem able to see them.

The real story comes from the history of the Sayama incident ( sayama jiken). There seem to be too many coincidences between the Sayama incident and this movie to ignore.

The Sayama incident occured in May 1963. It's quite an important case for discrimination in Japan. The case goes that one day, in Sayama (in Saitama prefecture), a young girl was kidnapped for ransom, sexually abused and then murdered. Her older sister apparently found her body, but was so traumatized by it, when asked what she had seen, she merely said "I met a large Tanuki (looks like a racoon)" and "I saw a cat monster." Sound familiar? Anyway, the older sister later commited suicide.

So let's see. Okay I'll start with the things that are most similar. For one, the house that the family moved to is also in Saitama. It isn't told exactly where, but take a look at this:

Written on the box at the back is sayamacha or Sayama tea. Doesn't get much more direct than that.

Also, the hospital, shichikoku byouin has (or had?) a real-life counterpart in Sayama, called the hachikoku byouin, located in the same area as in the movie.

The real murder took place in May. Also the youngest child is named Mei (pronounced 'May'). This could be a coincidence, but the older sister is named Satsuki, which is also another way to say May.

The Nekobus (the cat bus) is the cariage that takes one to the next world (heaven, hell, whatever). This is given a little reinforcement by the above picture, showing the destination as the first character means grave, the second meaning road.

So in the story, the idea is that Mei is murdered after she goes missing. Satsuki, feeling greif decides to join her.

She enters into the realm of the (death god) - Totoro. Notice the presence again of the Susuwatari. And the monochromatic lighting. She hops into the Nekobus; the vehicle to the next world, and they go to see their mother together, but they don't actually meet her.

There is a strong belief that after Mei goes missing, she has no shadow, apparently adding to the notion that she is dead. When I watched the movie again I found it hard to distinguish between what would be called a shadow or not so this is in debate.

One thing I did notice, though, was that Satsuki and Mei seem to be colored differently (like... more softly?) once they are both on the Nekobus.

You may ask yourself about the ending credits, which show a happy Mei and Satsuki along with the mother and friends. The favoured explanation is that these are memories from when they were still living.

Another yet stranger rumor is that the movie is segmented; some parts are the present, some are the past or future, some are the work of the father's imagination. This seems a little off until you remember the scene with the huge tree. The children sit atop this huge tree (which umbrellas the small house) playing flutes with the Totoros.

The father looks out to see this, smiles happily and continues his writing. The suggestion is that he is writing about his deceased daughters doing exactly what they are shown doing.

If you want to read a bit more into it, there's a Japanese page about it here which is full of stuff.

Just creeps me out.

Due to the relative popularity of this post, I've decided to do a little more hunting around some Japanese sites for some more interesting information on Totoro. Here's what I got:

When first visiting their mother, the calender at the hospital shows the 9th month (September), but nearing the end of the movie, it shows the 8th month (August) (source). According to here and here, this fit in perfectly with the leap year of 1952, which, as we will see, is the year before the mother in the Sayama incident is reported to have died.
Apparently this gives proof to the interpretation that the Totoro story doesn't flow chronologically. Either that, or the mother is hospitalized for almost a year.

On that same site, it is suggested that one reason the mother couldn't see Mei and Satsuki on the tree is because they were with the Nekobus, who can't be seen by adults.

Another point was brought up about Mei's clothing in the movie poster (the first image in this post), which appeared on the back of the VHS cover. Mei is wearing Satsuki's clothes.

One of the commenters at that site also gave a little more interesting information about the Sayama incident:

The Sayama Jiken took place in Shouwa 38 (i.e. 1963), but when looking into the family of the victim, dubbed 'Y' (at that time she was 16, she was the third daughter of a family of 3 males and 4 females), it appears that Y's mother was in a mental hospital (though, for a brain tumor, not mental illness). The mother died in Shouwa 28 (1953). Delving further reveals that in Shouwa 18 (1943), Y's older sister died at age 3. Which means, at the time when their mother was in hospital, Y would have been 5-6, and her older sister (if she has still been alive) would have been 13;The girl had two brothers, and of course there was her father (three males). On the day of the incident, the 11-year old brother received the ransom letter. There were a lot of suicides surrounding the murder. Of the six siblings, four died, not to mention others outside the family. What happened to this family? There is the world of the Totoro (the three males) and the mother and the deceased sister. The fairy tale is this scary tale minus the scary parts. It seems that the Sayama Incident follows this motif. In the 30th year of Showa (1955), Tonari No Totoro meant "Next to Tokorozawa," or in other words, Sayama.

In the scene where Mei is lost and crying, she is sitting next to 6 jizou Jizou statues (English Ksitigarbha, a buddhist deity that looks after the souls of deceased children and aborted fetuses in Japanese culture. Apparently these 6 Jizou statues represent 6 people who died in the course of the incident (see above).

Apparently one of the phrases in the lyrics of the song of the Nekobus is notta okyaku wa youki na obake, "those guests who ride are cheerful ghosts."

One person pointed out a strange reflection in the window when Satsuki and Mei first lay eyes upon the house and say obake yashiki mitai, "This looks like a haunted house!" The poster said it reminded him of an okiku ningyou, a scary looking traditional Japanese doll, though I think its just Satsuki's reflection.

April 5, 2011

21 Comments • Newest first

Pookiemookie

Your theory just ruined that movie for me. :[ Sort of like the Ed, Edd, and Eddy theory.

Reply April 21, 2011
XxBearr

*crashes and burns* D:

Reply April 21, 2011
mlsxxx13

LOL. I'ma try to tell BubzBeauty this!

Reply April 11, 2011
Golfek

Kanta looks like Mr. Basil from what I remember. That 2nd picture is extremely disturbing. And didn't the main character's mom die? Also didn't their dad say that Totoro was the spirit of the forest? Totoro also made some trees grow really fast but they turned back into saplings. That doesn't make too much sense.

@MMaple I believe it was made by the same people. I think Ponyo and that movie with this little girl whos a witch who delivers stuff are also made by the same person. The animation looks quite similar.

Reply April 11, 2011 - edited
zerosocks

http://skalja.tumblr.com/post/3692636990/interesting-fact-about

Reply April 11, 2011 - edited
wrathofgod54

i havent seen the movie yet but ima see i now lol

Reply April 11, 2011 - edited
Coffee

[quote=GentleRain]Okay i read the whole thing and it did creep me out.
But really? It's a dumb conspiracy some group of mentally unstable(?) Japanese people came up with.
don't ruin people's childhood memories lol

[url=http://ghiblicon.blogspot.com/2007/06/totoro-is-not-god-of-death.html]Totoro is not god of death[/url]

[b][i]"This conspiracy has been growing in popularity, to the point where Studio Ghibli had to publicly debunk it on their official blog."[/i][/b][/quote]

i feel like there is no way all of this was a coincidence (especially with the dates/calender thing)
of course this is just a theory and miyazaki hasn't said anything about it, but neither of our sources are official so

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
NoCookieForYou

[quote=Coffee]same guy made both. there is a theory just like this one about spirited away that has to do with child prostitution. both great movies. haven't seen either of them since i was probably 6 or 7, but these relatively new theories about them have left me in awe[/quote]

Spirited away had something to do with child prostitution? Omg o-o... Never knew that D: Well this makes me interested in Totoro.. Is it a good movie?

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
Deciduous

as sad and in some ways creepy as it is...reading about it only made me love the movie more for its depth

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
GentleRain

Okay i read the whole thing and it did creep me out.
But really? It's a dumb conspiracy some group of mentally unstable(?) Japanese people came up with.
don't ruin people's childhood memories lol

[url=http://ghiblicon.blogspot.com/2007/06/totoro-is-not-god-of-death.html]Totoro is not god of death[/url]

[b][i]"This conspiracy has been growing in popularity, to the point where Studio Ghibli had to publicly debunk it on their official blog."[/i][/b]

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
remembrent

NOOOOO I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS. ):
I have a large totoro on my bed, and several other ones in my room.
They're fluffy cute fatties!

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
Luscious

i'd rather not read it and mess up my all time favorite childhood movie.

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
LoserReborn

Looking at the comments, I don't think I want to read that. D:

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
Dragonrare

That second picture on the site is really creepy.

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
Coffee

[quote=KenOfSeven]i read the whole thing, but didn't watch the movie.
anyone want to go in the details of the movie?..[/quote]

"Two young girls, Satsuke and her younger sister Mei, move into a house in the country with their father to be closer to their hospitalized mother. Satsuke and Mei discover that the nearby forest is inhabited by magical creatures called Totoros (pronounced toe-toe-ro). They soon befriend these Totoros, and have several magical adventures. "

it basically markets itself as a happy fairytale about two young sisters who live in the country and become friends with forest animals
here is the original ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp9PDj_zb1k
pretty much reflects the mood that is kept throughout the movie

here is the spirited away one, less creepy but still nonetheless intriguing: http://hayao-miyazaki.tumblr.com/post/560134537/spirited-away

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
DragonBandit

What the fudge is totortotro?

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
Coffee

[quote=CannedHeat]I don't get it.[/quote]

world renowned and loved child movie is actually about murder death suicide and abuse (and it's all based on a real story)
what is not to get

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
Coffee

[quote=Mmaple]Oh, yeah I've seen this. or at least I've heard of it. Is it anything like spirited away? Is it better?[/quote]

same guy made both. there is a theory just like this one about spirited away that has to do with child prostitution. both great movies. haven't seen either of them since i was probably 6 or 7, but these relatively new theories about them have left me in awe

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
Coffee

it's not meant to be creepy (even though it is)- this is a widely believed theory behind the movie plot

Reply April 5, 2011 - edited
timmybitty

But totoro is so awesumm.

Other than that you creeped me out. Why do people make these kinda of threads at night!

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