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Do Kannas Binds Stack?

I apologize if this question has been previously asked, but do Veritable Pandemonium (hyper skill) & Binding Tempest stack with each other, particularly during boss runs? Thank you

February 23, 2014

13 Comments • Newest first

StolenProperty

[quote=ContagiousSmile]Would Category Three binds stack with Category Two? Thanks for the clarification [/quote]

Yep! Just as long as the binds aren't in the same Category, they can stack.

Reply February 25, 2014
ContagiousSmile

Ah okay, thanks everyone!
@StolenProperty, Would Category Three binds stack with Category Two? Thanks for the clarification

Reply February 25, 2014 - edited
loxiona

I think there is confusion as to what 'bind stacking' is. I was under the impression that stacking binds allow you to cast different binds of different categories, perhaps in quick succession, and have it bound for say, 40 seconds to a minute (just adding time on to when the last bind was cast). I haven't actually seen this happen before myself though and likely could be a misconception on my part.

The other idea of 'bind stacking' is compatiblity with eachother, in that you can perform a bind while another bind is active. However, this only binds for an additional 20 seconds or so, regardless of how much time is left on the last bind. This requires you to time your 2nd bind to be seconds before the first bind ends to be effective, which is why I said that they don't 'stack'.

In respect to what everyone else refers to stacking, yes they do stack

Reply February 25, 2014 - edited
StolenProperty

Okay. In my experience, there's a few categories of binds, and they cannot be stacked with other binds that are found within the same category. Off the top of my head, here's the three categories, so sorry if I missed a class.

1. [b]Demon Slayer[/b] (Dark Bind)/[b]Avenger[/b] (Bloody Imprison) & [b]Dawn Warrior[/b] (Impaling Rays) & [b]Ice/Lightning Archmage[/b] (Freezing Breath) & [b]Luminous[/b] (Armageddon) & [b]Kanna[/b] (Veritable Pandemonium)
2. [b]Paladin[/b] (Smite) & [b]Xenon[/b] (Confine Entangle)
3. [b]Kanna[/b] (Binding Tempest)

So what does this mean? Basically, any bind in Category One cannot be stacked with another class' bind in Category One (DS cannot stack with DA). Same for Category Two and Category Three. I think Magic Crash stacks with everything here, but I've never partied with anyone who has used Magic Crash. Basically, make sure you're using your binds in the right order in order to stack them correctly.

Reply February 25, 2014 - edited
ContagiousSmile

Yeah I did a test run during the Magnus simulation and they seemed to stack with each other ... though if they don't stack with other binds then that's too bad.

Reply February 25, 2014 - edited
DemoDango

@iCodykins: Oh wait I was thinking of it the wrong way. Derp.

My stomp and tempest binds do stack with each other, but not with other binds.

Reply February 24, 2014 - edited
iCodykins

@DemoDango: My Kanna binds stacked, then... I've used both in succession plenty of times. They just didn't work with OTHER binds unless I waited like a minute or so. This was @ Magnus

Reply February 24, 2014 - edited
GICalibre

Nope, though pandemonium stacked with smite shield and impaling rays during some magnus runs.

Reply February 24, 2014 - edited
DemoDango

@iCodykins: No, they don't. I've tested this as well.

Reply February 24, 2014 - edited
Rianael

[quote=LitheMovement]Say, what's the point of stacking bind?[/quote]

To extend the period of time in which you or your party can damage the boss with full DPS/DPM due to not getting hurt from the boss or it launching an attack/buff that stops you from attacking: DR, one hit k.o, etc.

Reply February 24, 2014 - edited
LitheMovement

Say, what's the point of stacking bind?

Reply February 23, 2014 - edited
loxiona

No they do not.

Another thing I found out yesterday, Pandemonium is completely incompatible with Lumi's hyper. If a boss is bound by one of them, and you try to cast the other, it will auto fail or resist it. I had to use my hyper bind, then 4th job bind, then lumi bind for it to all work out.

Reply February 23, 2014 - edited