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THE most unbalanced ability EVER

What do you basilers think is the absolute, #1 single most unbalanced thing that any class gets?

Personally, I would say it's the fact that Mechanics get 100% knockback resist at 1st job. Warriors have to wait until [b]4th job[/b] to get it, and theirs is only 90% and most classes don't even get it.
Also, knockback resist is the biggest difference between mechs and gunslingers that make mechs have amazing DPS, while Gunslingers sit at theoretically amazing DPS.

Running at a close second is siege. The two of those combined, with a minor in drill hands/rock and shock, are why I think everybody QQs at mechs.

May 19, 2011

43 Comments • Newest first

ReesaMapler

Soul driver.

Magician ults were supposedly so OP they had to be CD'd, yet this thing is almost exactly the same.

Reply May 20, 2011
268078243

yes, arans were never overpowered

Reply May 20, 2011
InSovietRussia

[quote=alltwo147]Normal attack button.
Without it, you wouldn't get very far, now would you?[/quote]

Not really.
Till like lv3-ish, all you do is talk to people.
Put up Three Snails or Crystal Throw in Beginner SP.
Use that a lot (might cost some money for MP) till like 10~14. (Depending on your job)
Train with your job skills
? Lv200 without using your attack button.

However, you can't do some quests like Pia's chair, Ludi PQ, and whatnot.
But it is very possible.

Reply May 20, 2011
GizzyJones

[quote=cablefreak]To be honest, Soul Driver is not OP at all.
Due to it's slow attacking speed, it does not compare to other skills.
For example, Advanced Charged Blow does about half the damage Soul Driver does, although, Advanced Charged Blow is twice the casting speed of Soul Driver.
As a result, Advanced Charged Blow as the same DPM as Soul Driver, making it equally fair.

Not bias at all, I wouldn't complain about Soul Driver if I were to switch classes.
The reason most people say SD is OP, is because they look at the damage, but never the casting speed.[/quote]

The thing is, it can 1HKO most things people train on thus clearing the area and makes for uber fast training.

Reply May 20, 2011
achyif

the mech's rocket skill that propells him/her upwards
Pure hax. wtf.

Reply May 20, 2011
Applesnacks

@duffye:

Ive had a sniper since late 06-07 up until late 09.

We were never shunned. We've always been in the middle, we were never overpowered nor underpowered.

Reply May 20, 2011
GazimoEnthra

[quote=chickboy0]i saw a vid on youtube (cant remember the title of it, butit was a mech who was trianing at blue wyverns) and honestly, it was pretty much bs, all he did was use the long range cannon (no idea what its called) and the move that lets you fly straight up... thats all he did... and he either 1hko or 2hko... when i compare this to a drk training at blue wyvs... i cry.[/quote]

I know right? They don't even have to walk across maps.
*Mech jump* IT EVEN DEALS DAMAGE WTF
*Lasor* all mobs across the entire freaking map die from its huge range.
*Mech jump* and so on.
Grawr, they don't even have to worry about getting hit because they won't move.

Reply May 20, 2011
infferrno

After Jump, every class except Pirates will be OP.

Reply May 20, 2011
FreeWii4Mii

soul driver combined with adv combo and soul charge. (1000% x 200% x 130% = 2600% per driver).

Reply May 20, 2011 - edited
RobCorso

[quote=Applesnacks]Bowmans were never shunned o-o[/quote]

pre bb before 4th job. Then again everyone was shunned unless they were 4th job...

Reply May 20, 2011 - edited
Applesnacks

[quote=Dyerp]After Bowman have been shunned again and again? Ha.[/quote]

Bowmans were never shunned o-o

Reply May 20, 2011 - edited
xNeoGaiax

Guardian

42% block any damage
32% ignore seal,stun, and other debuffs
32% reduce on elemental damage
Stun enemy/rush them

Reply May 20, 2011 - edited
Darkwolf6545

After Chaos, Evan's are going to be much better

I can imagine people using Dragon Blink + Earthquake

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
alltwo147

[quote=LOLfwappz]WRONG! Its Dragon Blink! once one max's it, Evans will be teleporting allover the map![/quote]

They already do with a certain hack.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
LOLfwappz

WRONG! Its Dragon Blink! once one max's it, Evans will be teleporting allover the map!

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
alltwo147

Normal attack button.
Without it, you wouldn't get very far, now would you?

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
SombraManx

SD is not overpowered

is pretty slow

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
iDrinkOJ

soul driver. too overpowered.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
felipe123450

I dislike reading threads made by people who don't know what QQ actually means.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Dilbert868

[quote=xfactorkid]SD isnt OP wtf?
It's SD combined with advanced combo that makes the damage seem OP.
That, and the extra 70 AP points they get first 70 levels of cygnus
Silly DW.[/quote]

A 3rd job skill that hits 250% damage per hit, 4 times. 1000% total damage move at 3rd job with good range and also hits 8 monsters isn't OP? Yeah, ok...

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Cheezzydude

[quote=cablefreak]To be honest, Soul Driver is not OP at all.
Due to it's slow attacking speed, it does not compare to other skills.
For example, Advanced Charged Blow does about half the damage Soul Driver does, although, Advanced Charged Blow is twice the casting speed of Soul Driver.
As a result, Advanced Charged Blow as the same DPM as Soul Driver, making it equally fair.

Not bias at all, I wouldn't complain about Soul Driver if I were to switch classes.
The reason most people say SD is OP, is because they look at the damage, but never the casting speed.[/quote]

The casting speed really doesn't matter with SD. The monsters are damaged as soon as the skill is cast, not when it finishes. And looking at the damage dealt, it's usually a ohko, so the monsters can be killed as soon as the monsters spawn. It also hits a pretty big range all around. The only time SD isn't OP is when fighting monsters with relatively high HP. Even then, DWs can still usually ohko due to all of their buffs.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Kojo

[quote=neiiinei]Oh well, Sairs still outdamage mech in 4th job[/quote]

>implying having slightly higher 1v1 DPS in 4th job is even worth it when Mechs are better in everything else

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
grogmonster

arrow rain post jump XD

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Kojo

I agree w/ what OP said.

Nexon: hur dur lets make a class that gets BETTER than 4th job warrior skills at 1st job using little to no skill points!

You can't use physics as an excuse because physics isn't constant or accurate in this game at all, and it doesn't justify giving a class OP skills just for the crap of realism in a fantasy MMO.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Faze10

Mech= Overpower Toaster.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
kptnkrnch

[quote=AckarRed]Because it's really hard to get a giant box of metal of move at all.[/quote]

^this
O/T mechs get really slow move speeds when in tank mode

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
grogmonster

[quote=ryan12345]Dragon strike hits 6 monster and deals 700%
20 more level and I'll own [/quote]

until you realise the truth... =/

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
MotusLeaf

[quote=SaderSader]Stimpack is so dam OP....[/quote]

Nah when i upgrade my zlings speed and attack speed its gg for dem rines.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Bloodrill

Genesis preBB.

Soul Driver

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Gashee

Like everyone says. Troll Driver.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Miauri

[quote=ryan12345]Dragon strike hits 6 monster and deals 700%
20 more level and I'll own [/quote]

GL finding DS books, took me WEEKS :x

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Amped

[quote=cablefreak]To be honest, Soul Driver is not OP at all.
Due to it's slow attacking speed, it does not compare to other skills.
For example, Advanced Charged Blow does about half the damage Soul Driver does, although, Advanced Charged Blow is twice the casting speed of Soul Driver.
As a result, Advanced Charged Blow as the same DPM as Soul Driver, making it equally fair.

Not bias at all, I wouldn't complain about Soul Driver if I were to switch classes.
The reason most people say SD is OP, is because they look at the damage, but never the casting speed.[/quote]

I very do so look at both the speed and the attack, and I conclude it is overpowered. You are forgetting the massive range, my friend. Also, a naked dawn warrior can easily one hit kill every monster it trains at when its around 5 levels into the spot, preferrably 8x for jesters. I am sick of all those killstealers that just tap one button and destroy 2 platforms. That's my take at least.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
SpriterAlex

[quote=cablefreak]To be honest, Soul Driver is not OP at all.
Due to it's slow attacking speed, it does not compare to other skills.
For example, Advanced Charged Blow does about half the damage Soul Driver does, although, Advanced Charged Blow is twice the casting speed of Soul Driver.
As a result, Advanced Charged Blow as the same DPM as Soul Driver, making it equally fair.

Not bias at all, I wouldn't complain about Soul Driver if I were to switch classes.
The reason most people say SD is OP, is because they look at the damage, but never the casting speed.[/quote]

I did notice it's casting speed is rather slow. But it's range and damage certainly make up for it so much so that it's OP. Or at least very efficient skill to KS with.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Xeihro

@Dyerp: Bowmans were shunned? I had an easier time lvling my bowman than my warrior because bowmans get better range of attack and are harder to ks...

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Xeihro

Bowmans getting double jump at jump update. That makes my crusader feel suckish...

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
AckarRed

Because it's really hard to get a giant box of metal of move at all.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
jstn

after chaos, dragon blink will make evans pwn at training >

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
SpriterAlex

The most unbalanced ability in the game i-
Oh wait you just said it...
Well I guess Soul Driver is pretty OP.

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited
Cinnanmonny

mechs get a skill that's better than rush 1st job
mechs get a stance skill that's 100% in 1st job

wtf is with 4th job skills being 1st job for mechs?

Reply May 19, 2011 - edited