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We need to Stand Up for ourselves as Gamers

I have voiced myself on the current issue in Khaini... Botting and Hacking is against our gaming way of life. It has been a long time since I was really that active on Basilmarket but I still have some faith in how players can fight for a clean and fair game. I know it seems like a longshot and pretty hopeless due to P2W and botting issues, but I still have hope that we can actually do something about these issues.

Nexon will only listen if we push these issues together, nothing can ever be accomplished with just letting it slide or sitting in the chair doing nothing. Sit in that chair with cookies and milk, or ramen noodles and write onto the forums I mention in this thread and voice yourselves about it instead! Vote with the polls if you don't feel you can muster a confident voice!

I have taken the opportunity to pretty much put all of my years of hard work and legit training at risk of being destroyed by voicing myself (I know it really doesn't matter what happens to me), but I care for the community, what we have left and what we can gain back if we all contribute to the cause of ridding our server of script kiddies with personalities, even if it is one at a time.

I am pretty sure by now many of us are fed up with it... Don't want to play the game because of it or feel "whats the point now?" I ask of all of you to seriously consider what I and many others have to say about the issue on the forums;

http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1313591-ToU-violated-and-no-action-taken-against-those%26nxid%3D6

I know it is difficult, but unless more people come forward and talk about it as a community, Nexon will let it happen. I do NOT ask for a boycott of any kind, as it is unhealthy for the game, I ask for those to voice themselves and speak out for those who can't, for those who have been victims of hacking, bullying and other unsportsmanlike conduct (cheating).

Nothing will happen if we just let it go, we need to actually do our part now and fight for legit players, those who work hard and don't abuse the ToS or game exploits and just want to have fun... Its a game for goodness sakes and we should take it back from those players and make it fun again!

Here is the forum thread response I had with one of many supposed culprits:

[QUOTE=DrGacha;11027049]i recommend talking to the GMs that log on maplestory frequently, like this month a GM has been coming on atleast once a week talk to them and help them locate the hackers or cheaters and that way you get a instant perma ban on those players breaking the ToS.

Also get them to admit they are cheating if you can that way its more proof for GM's and saves a lot of time.

we need a clean up in Maplestory to many botters ruining the economy![/QUOTE]

I know I will probably start getting hacked as I say this but I don't care anymore, its worth voicing myself over a supposed tyrant in our server;

It is really hard to watch someone getting away with bullying and cheating in the game while blatantly lying through their teeth acting as an innocent (more evidence down below and I checked already for validity in creative software, has not been tampered with, I suggest Nexon to do an actual check instead of lazily and submissively ignoring it as fake).

Recommending things that have already been done and saying we need to clean up this server of cheaters is also a hypocrisy in itself. The players who have committed wrong doing do not need to "admit" to their cheating either as the behavior they exhibit through talking in game and through their actions with other players is more than enough to question them and consider a review on the player in question; Simple unsportsmanlike manner is a clear sign of a sociopath, and a cheater.

The economy also isn't the only issue and is actually unrelated to what Bhav was even talking about... It is being dc hacked and dc hacking those who are affiliated with said victim. It is a serious issue in the server of Khaini right now and if nothing is done, it will serve as a very bad precedence to the other servers and the rest of the players in Khaini. It will look very bad on Nexon too, and they should treat this issue with care to preserve the trust and hope for a better maple.

Nexon Employees and volunteers should seriously consider why this issue is being brought up with untampered hardcore evidence. If it is not even being reviewed or considered a concern for the health of the game and integrity of its players then Nexon is not doing a very good job and they will in fact lose players regardless of how much content they continue to spew out at us. Khaini is already a dead server and it will get worse if nothing is done about this issue.

This issue in Khaini has pretty much been about you, Ying, I have been hearing a lot of things about your guild, Lift. People who left your guild have told me of your exploits and thirst for power. A lot of these characters have also been banned due to Bhavs efforts of proving that they hacked/botted, I even saw the images and videos on basilmarket (which is pretty much clear evidence of what I have imposed about what makes a cheater or bully a cheater and/or bully):

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2850545

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2852385

Bhav has not been known to "fake" his videos or make them to falsely alienate or harass players in the game and should be taken seriously by Nexon employees or GMs due to the subject content. If Nexon reviewed and banned those other players why cant they at least review you? You shouldn't have anything to hide right?

Don't act as if you are innocent just yet and trying to reflect on the heartstrings of players by saying what you said earlier in the thread, its disgusting and despicable; Many of us already know for it to be lies. You are currently being questioned for the crimes (yes, you are being questioned of going against ToU and it is illegal to do so in this game), not saying anything on this thread is probably recommended for someone in your current position.

Most people who will know you in Khaini would feel the same, and for whoever is left they should voice themselves because this kind of conduct is what REALLY shouldn't be in this game, those who work for their success and progress in this game shouldn't have to live each day feeling threatened by cheaters. We all lose interest in the game because players like you get away with doing stuff like this and smugly dismiss it as entertainment.

I have had enough and so should the rest of you who still have pride and care in what you play in this game and how you properly spend your free time. I don't care about rankings, I don't care about fame, unlike you I care about the players, about the archer community and the dignity and respect of all the Khainians we have left.

It is rather unfortunate that all of this has happened, things could have been different if you weren't so smug and arrogant. I know you will hack me, defame me or even create mules with my IGN to hack people soon after you read this or sometime after, but I said what I wanted to say and for the sake of my own conscience and to voice out for those who cant or feel they cant do so in fear of also getting hacked or alienated by you or your affiliates.

If volunteers and moderators have any respect for our rights as gamers and customers of Nexon they will not block or delete this post either; This is important for people to read and those who have enough self-respect would understand what my current plight/ (I guess a rant) entails.

I have no regrets. Happy Mapling everyone.

November 17, 2014

39 Comments • Newest first

hireshi

Nexon cares BECAUSE you are their income. But there's a fine line between words and actions.
The people at Nexon doesn't play MapleStory themselves, thus the least amount of work for the buck is what everyone wants.

Not enough people voice up issues, so its harder for Nexon to hear it.
Consider it a government, the masses yield more power than they think, but its only strong if combined. But there's the catch, there's only a small fraction on basil compared to who plays MS. Most of the people who pay BIG buck to Nexon for their NX and play everyday are not among the ones here on basil.
The ones here on basil are the ones who quit or "stopped" buying, an ever bigger reason not to listen to you guys, as the income is still playing their game.

Nexon will only act on its own when it notices the game going down, and Nexon probably has a better statistic over its own game than you do , and they still make millions off of it.

Reply November 21, 2014
jerry5000

nexon cant even solve lagging problem
gl wiht that

Reply November 21, 2014
TricksterHoe

am i the only one enjoying maple drama?

*grabs popcorn*

Reply November 21, 2014
RealSoulja

[quote=deathsushi92]Same can be said about me. I haven't trained or really played on Maple in general for about 2 or 3 months now. Then up and out of the blue you bring my name up on a basil post claiming that I bot all the time o.o ... how can I bot when I'm not even online? How is that not picking a fight right there?

In your last post when you were addressing Dom you said, "I couldn't bully that person enough to reduce prices in FM? Please. Who deflated the entire CRA economy?", you pretty much just answered your own question/taunt right there. Dom is just saying you're angry because I didn't put up with being threatened. It also sounded like you were implying that we were the ones tanking the fm so I just provided some evidence proving that it's really ridiculous seeing how little influence I have in the FM o.o
Learn to connect the dots [/quote]

Okay, first off I've seen you smega "R> HS/BT for Second Drill Hall" recently, not 2-3 months ago. So unless someone goes on your account to smega that, I have no idea why you're still trying to lie.
Secondly, Dom was sitting up on his high horse, trying to call people out on Breaking ToS. As if he or anyone he associates with is completely clean. This isn't about picking a fight, its about exposing a hypocrite. I get that he wants attention, but the fact that hes trying to look like Khaini's knight in shining armor when hes really not won't fly. LOL.
Moreover, what does CRA prices even have anything to do with the original topic to begin with? Thats completely irrelevant to the original topic. That and the fact you're bringing up stuff from months ago. All thats showing is that you really don't have anything to defend yourself with LOL.

Reply November 21, 2014
Blackinup

[quote=darklord666]Yeesh, the fact that RealSoulja Recording247, and Blackinup are taking it a step further to insult me on my thread to try and impose I am a hacker or abuser of the ToS, which I am not (no factual evidence of it) is pretty much evidence that there is a serious problem with the community here. I admit, I did speak out of line and even out of character earlier in this thread (for those who know me in Khaini, that is NOT how I usually conduct myself). For that I am sorry.

I have issue only with how you guys are blatantly trying to call me out for things I have not done. Throwing the term "hypocrite" is easy, especially when it is thrown blindly without any form of coherence. It is just a "Your name is on a list, that means you are just as bad as those who hack" or "You stood up for yourself by trying to insult me, therefore your entire thread loses integrity"... Nope, not the case.

Also, I haven't responded back because I have a busy life like most of you, not always on Basilmarket, of all places on the web, responding at the speed of light to the slightest comment that would urk me. Clearly I have rubbed some of you the wrong way, sorry you all feel some kind of injustice of how I compose my rants or ego trips (I admit to it, why not you?).

The main reason I made this thread, I will reiterate, was to have players feel more at ease knowing that they still have a chance to fight against what makes these community forums and games so toxic... Ironically as I have been attacked, those responsible already came forward, thanks for saving me the trouble

I know you will pretty much do the same monotonous thing and call me a hypocrite... Go ahead, I am one, but so are you. The only difference is I am a progressive hypocrite and one trying to bring about change, whether or not you believe it possible or not. So come at me then, have at thee, innocent players still win, bullies.

FYI @RealSoulja, or mikey, as you are known... That player does not bot. You are just mad that you couldn't bully that player enough to reduce prices in FM. Shame on you. Also, it makes me wonder why people always come to you when we need to find out about how hackers run rampant... Possibly because you were one at one point, still are, or in cahoots with em. Being one of the 1% in Khaini must be nice for you huh? Taking advantage of players in the market? I know others would say the same if they could muster the courage, but its fine. Attacking me is evidence enough to show your colors, so, keep at it ol' chap.

Wish you weren't so much like them, but it cant be helped I suppose. A bully is a bully.[/quote]
When did I ever say you were a hacker lul. Sigh TL;DR. Keep making false statements. Who is this "bully." You my dear friend is higher than the empire state building.

Reply November 21, 2014
RealSoulja

[quote=deathsushi92]@RealSoulja: You're really quick to assume things huh? If you think that I honestly spent a whole day trying to figure out what to say to you... Talk about an ego LOL . I'm not trying to cover for myself in any way, I really don't care what lies you want to say about me . I know the truth, my friends know the truth and heck, anyone that's trained with me knows the truth (that includes some of your guildies). I do know that @SoCalKing leeched you occasionally, however, you're trying to come off all pure and innocent when I've seen you afk attacking on your Dark Knight before at SH so get off your high horse. Also, how would you get by if people didn't sell NX to you huh? I don't know why you're trying to hate on @darklord666 for that when you benefit from it.

Just because there aren't any threads about you causing Khaini's drama, just look at what you're doing right now? You're trolling and trying to pick fights in this thread that's about trying to raise awareness about all the crap taking place in Maple right now. That right there is drama .

How can I not be angry at someone when they pull garbage like this: http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/TrueHysteria/10615801_10152372018907852_1229824002_n_zps79eab1d5.jpg ? Claiming you can control the fm and threatening me over how I priced my items. You're asking why the fm tanked so bad? Claiming that someone like me, who was lucky to get 3 trixter items a week, could tank the market. Compared to you who claimed you got an average 80 trixter items a week </3 ? That just doesn't sound right o.o... 3 compared to 80? Definitely makes sense that the person with 3 items can tank the market *sarcasm*. That's pretty greedy right there if you ask me (especially the part about you saying you don't like people messing with your profits). I'm just a little fish who rarely talks to you in game. I don't know why you feel the need to pick on me and my guildies so much.[/quote]

You've seen me afk attacking? Thats funny, I haven't trained my Drk since the HoH nerf LOL all I did was afk in Hene and occaisonally CRA.If you ever see me afk training all you need to do is right click my character and report! Also please do tell me where I said that I haven't done anything wrong in this game ever? I'm calling @darklord666 out on being a hypocrite, that wouldn't work well if I was to be one myself. LOL I'm not "trying to come off all pure and innocent" cause I know I'm not and unlike you I'm not too scared to admit that. This wasn't starting a fight. Its putting someone in their place.

Also, you and Dominic need to get your stories straight. He said I'm mad because I couldn't tank the FM, while you're saying I tanked them? You guys should go discuss what to say next so you guys don't counter each LOOL others arguments

Reply November 21, 2014 - edited
justaperson

If only the discussion was oriented towards content vs. the op's past, which doesn't determine the credibilift of his observations.... if a Christian makes an argument to testify the validity of a thesis regarding the evolutionary process based on observations, saying that he once opposed the idea that it might be true proves he's is a hypocrite is not a valid counter-argument. When it comes to empirical data, and assessing the state of a situation, ethics and morality don'the pertain. The ideological aspect is relevant to ethics and morality based in context, but that doesn't mean it is based solely on subjective beliefs. The statements you guys disagree with, if you want to really pose a discussion, really should be the experience based ones instead of the interpretation because ad hominem takes no hold in formal logic ...

Reply November 20, 2014 - edited
frisbeeness

oh jeez it appears that I've been living under a rock this whole time seeing how I had no idea any of this was going on
nopnopenopenopenopnopenopenope
-climbs back under rock-

Reply November 20, 2014 - edited
SoCalKing

[quote=deathsushi92]@RealSoulja You are Khaini's drama lol ! I'm just laughing so hard at how pretentious you're sounding. I mean really, you have how many level 220+ characters and you're calling me a botter when I don't even have one! THE HECK IS THIS o.o[/quote]

The only reason that his dark knight is such a high level right now is because I leeched him along with iKimmmmy and Swabaroo(Now perma banned) on my journey to 240 before the Knight District EXP nerf.

Reply November 20, 2014 - edited
Recording247

[quote=darklord666]long wall of text.[/quote]

Woah chill out boy, here you are claiming im mad or even slightly annoyed? when youre here writing up a novel for me and all i have to do is talk facts.
you can deny all you want but what makes DrGacha unable to deny claims? thats how it works here, you wanna deny claims so will DrGacha. there is no proof your words mean anymore than anyone elses cause you show real emotions for a game, plus no one is insulting you just fight your own fights instead of starting one next time. no one is going to see you as a hero but rather a fake

Reply November 20, 2014 - edited
RealSoulja

[quote=deathsushi92]@RealSoulja You are Khaini's drama lol ! I'm just laughing so hard at how pretentious you're sounding. I mean really, you have how many level 220+ characters and you're calling me a botter when I don't even have one! THE HECK IS THIS o.o[/quote]
LOL I have 2. Both are characters I main sooo I don't get what you're trying to prove LOL and just cause you don't have a 220+ char doesn't mean you don't bot, look at the people Bhavs recorded botting, they weren't 220 then, they aren't 220 now. I've seen that damage, it takes you a while to kill mobs while I 1 hit the map obviously I'm going to be leveling faster I'm Khaini's drama? I don't see any threads about me :o I don't see my name in this thread, or anywhere else. Nice try though trying to cover for yourself.
@darklord666 When did I call you a hacker? Please don't put words in my mouth. LOL I said you sell NX for meso. Are you going to weasel your way out of that? I can provide screenshots if you want, if you really want to be embarassed on your own thread. LOL. You didn't reply because you have a life? Your guildy replied at 2:20, you replied at 2:23 LOL looks like you guys spent the last day trying to figure out what to say I couldn't bully that person enough to reduce prices in FM? Please. Who deflated the entire CRA economy? LOL you've been crying about that since, even on that Waelim Facebook group you guys are in. You think your guildies don't report to me? Others would say the same if they could muster the courage? LOL yeah I'm a really scary person aren't I. [url=http://imgur.com/qp5kQqt]Giving out Fafnirs for 1 meso.[/url][url=http://imgur.com/e9kFuWa]I must be really greedy huh.[/url] People must [b]HATE[/b] my guts. Since when do people come to me about hackers? I don't need to hack LOL. I cap on two characters. I have no need for meso or anything. What would I possibly be hacking for? C'mon you gotta try harder than that. I didn't attack you, I called you out on being a hypocrite. Which you are. Go on and get people who will say otherwise about me. I'll await that Or maybe evidence that I hack/bot. A video would be nice!

Reply November 20, 2014 - edited
darklord666

Yeesh, the fact that RealSoulja Recording247, and Blackinup are taking it a step further to insult me on my thread to try and impose I am a hacker or abuser of the ToS, which I am not (no factual evidence of it) is pretty much evidence that there is a serious problem with the community here. I admit, I did speak out of line and even out of character earlier in this thread (for those who know me in Khaini, that is NOT how I usually conduct myself). For that I am sorry.

I have issue only with how you guys are blatantly trying to call me out for things I have not done. Throwing the term "hypocrite" is easy, especially when it is thrown blindly without any form of coherence. It is just a "Your name is on a list, that means you are just as bad as those who hack" or "You stood up for yourself by trying to insult me, therefore your entire thread loses integrity"... Nope, not the case.

Also, I haven't responded back because I have a busy life like most of you, not always on Basilmarket, of all places on the web, responding at the speed of light to the slightest comment that would urk me. Clearly I have rubbed some of you the wrong way, sorry you all feel some kind of injustice of how I compose my rants or ego trips (I admit to it, why not you?).

The main reason I made this thread, I will reiterate, was to have players feel more at ease knowing that they still have a chance to fight against what makes these community forums and games so toxic... Ironically as I have been attacked, those responsible already came forward, thanks for saving me the trouble

I know you will pretty much do the same monotonous thing and call me a hypocrite... Go ahead, I am one, but so are you. The only difference is I am a progressive hypocrite and one trying to bring about change, whether or not you believe it possible or not. So come at me then, have at thee, innocent players still win, bullies.

FYI @RealSoulja, or mikey, as you are known... That player does not bot. You are just mad that you couldn't bully that player enough to reduce prices in FM. Shame on you. Also, it makes me wonder why people always come to you when we need to find out about how hackers run rampant... Possibly because you were one at one point, still are, or in cahoots with em. Being one of the 1% in Khaini must be nice for you huh? Taking advantage of players in the market? I know others would say the same if they could muster the courage, but its fine. Attacking me is evidence enough to show your colors, so, keep at it ol' chap.

Wish you weren't so much like them, but it cant be helped I suppose. A bully is a bully.

Reply November 20, 2014 - edited
Alesanah

i came to say hi.
lift sux!1111111

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
Recording247

[quote=Blackinup]@Recording247: Wasn't talking about you lool.[/quote]

Lol i know accidently left ya quote in it

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
Jaredragonx9

me you you me me you
all night
have it your way fore play
before i feed your appetite

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
Recording247

[quote=darklord666]I don't even own other accounts... That is literally my only account. I had one for Bellocan but I lost the info for it years ago

Also, it wasn't a story... it actually happened to me. You must be part of the newer generation of players if you don't remember that glitch. Also, the ign was my Wild Hunter, it may have been due to the Black Cipher auto banning, no idea why they haven't removed me from the list yet; I don't tend to care about rankings or look up old lists of banned people, so I guess it is just something neither of us can really talk or agree upon further... Because this thread seemed to have pushed your buttons in some way thinking im a hacker without any real evidence and all. That list is outdated as hell.

@Blackinup and you have so little to say or contribute.[/quote]

Pushed my button? nope asif i really care, you know i don't care what some person on maple thinkgs

Why are yo ignoring everything thats backed- basilmarket ? /forum/2852680/2/#46082203

also this
[quote=Recording247]i suggest everyone to look up OPs past to decide whether he is legitmate or not.
Google: "darklord666" 462439[/quote]

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
Blackinup

[quote=darklord666]I don't even own other accounts... That is literally my only account. I had one for Bellocan but I lost the info for it years ago

Also, it wasn't a story... it actually happened to me. You must be part of the newer generation of players if you don't remember that glitch. Also, the ign was my Wild Hunter, it may have been due to the Black Cipher auto banning, no idea why they haven't removed me from the list yet; I don't tend to care about rankings or look up old lists of banned people, so I guess it is just something neither of us can really talk or agree upon further... Because this thread seemed to have pushed your buttons in some way thinking im a hacker without any real evidence and all. That list is outdated as hell.

@Blackinup and you have so little to say or contribute.[/quote]
It sounds like your own thread pushed your buttons. lul.

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
RealSoulja

[quote=darklord666]I don't even own other accounts... That is literally my only account. I had one for Bellocan but I lost the info for it years ago

Also, it wasn't a story... it actually happened to me. You must be part of the newer generation of players if you don't remember that glitch. Also, the ign was my Wild Hunter, it may have been due to the Black Cipher auto banning, no idea why they haven't removed me from the list yet; I don't tend to care about rankings or look up old lists of banned people, so I guess it is just something neither of us can really talk or agree upon further... Because this thread seemed to have pushed your buttons in some way thinking im a hacker without any real evidence and all. That list is outdated as hell.

@Blackinup and you have so little to say or contribute.[/quote]

LOL evading everything I called you out on huh. Looks like someone got exposed You're trying to say you don't care about "fame" but then why are you trying to be Khaini's knight in shining armor. If you honestly cared about the community like you claim to do, you wouldn't be spreading lies and biased theories, or just information tainted by your hypocrisy.

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
darklord666

[quote=Recording247]Cool anyone can create a back story, getting banned 3 times is more than "accidents" also did you bother to remove traces of your old accounts offering hacks?[/quote]

I don't even own other accounts... That is literally my only account. I had one for Bellocan but I lost the info for it years ago

Also, it wasn't a story... it actually happened to me. You must be part of the newer generation of players if you don't remember that glitch. Also, the ign was my Wild Hunter, it may have been due to the Black Cipher auto banning, no idea why they haven't removed me from the list yet; I don't tend to care about rankings or look up old lists of banned people, so I guess it is just something neither of us can really talk or agree upon further... Because this thread seemed to have pushed your buttons in some way thinking im a hacker without any real evidence and all. That list is outdated as hell.

@Blackinup and you have so little to say or contribute.

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
Blackinup

[quote=justaperson]The buck stops here. Show who you are.Take a stand.
I am with you on this and I do believe massive change is possible, because as my time as a player in this community, I've seen it. Remember how bad things were with LHC? Remember the people who took advantage of hackers and glitches back then, the mass bannings, the mass whining, but how greatly the quality of the community did improve when the people who thought they were naturally entitled to spit on the rules and look down on the large majority of us were booted or decided to make a statement about how much Nexon doesn't care, and were made to look the fools they were? People always will whine and complain. But let them. This is a battle in a great war. They're not the people who will matter IN this fight, though it's also FOR them, if they're only willing to give a show of feeble-hearted cowardice at present, and the ones who take front line in the name of others will have to lead by example and show other people that stooping down in times of oppression is a behavior they really are so far above... This is a war poised against our faith in each other as people. We stand together or fall divided.

You know why these challenges and oppositions exists?
For us to show the world who we are and overcome them in times of hopelessness. The people who stood in similar way are not and were not alone no matter how it may seem. We know the truth, and the truth will always stand in the long run, no matter how many people try to strike it down, so the principles we express transcend the game. They transcend us. The principles we display are the very same that govern our every day lives and though so many people try to escape here, to stand up and look challenge and discomfort straight in the eye with conviction is our first step towards accomplishing our own dreams; for in the long run, becoming the people we are meant to be. Every action we take makes a difference, and whether not we choose to persist, will in time show who we are. This is not a stand for injustice in the game. This is a stand FOR justice, period. We need to stand, not cater to dread of failure when there is almost nothing of substance to lose, yet everything that will matter to gain (our future), something we have before us: the power to create something greater than ourself, to sculpt from something that isn't already there.. And to the people who oppose or doubt what I say, I would like to call for an answer to this question:

Who are you?

These are some words that have helped us all get here, even if we didn't know it.

"I believe in the sun, even when it's not shining
I believe in Love, even when I don't feel it
and I believe in God, even when he is silent"

If you supplement the word God for Truth, then what's being said becomes clearer. [i]It was said it was seen written on the wall of a concentration camp.[/i]
If others can do it, why couldn't we?

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win."
-Mahatma Gandhi

"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible."
-T.E. Lawrence

"This is the true joy in life, the being used for a purpose recognized by yourself as a mighty one; the being thoroughly worn out before you are thrown on the scrap heap; the being a force of nature instead of a feverish selfish little clod of ailments and grievances complaining that the world will not devote itself to making you happy."
-George Bernard Shaw

[i]And if nothing else is worth reading, then take these words left by one of the strongest men in history.[/i]

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt

I wish you all the best.[/quote]
Christ you people have a lot to say o.o

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
Recording247

[quote=darklord666]Yes, I have been banned before but not for reasons you would easily assume. I have been banned 3 times. 1st time I was banned was due to the old Typhon Map Glitch (that actually happened to a lot of unsuspecting players back then when Typhons and Windraiders were an option to train on). I was training my Ranger back then at around lvl 70, then it happened without warning. I was unaware of the glitch, reported it, then got unbanned when a maintenance had a fix for it. It would have been a month ban for me if they didn't fix it. Apparently if you used a mob attack in that map, you would get banned... I and many others did not deserve that.
blah blah blah.[/quote]
Cool anyone can create a back story, getting banned 3 times is more than "accidents" also did you bother to remove traces of your old accounts offering hacks?

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
RealSoulja

[quote=darklord666] those who work hard and don't abuse the ToS [/quote] Thats cute. You really need to quit with this holier-than-thou attitude you've got going as if you've never broken the Terms of Use yourself. Lets be realistic, you've sold a little something-something for meso as much as you might think thats okay, its still not legit according to the ToS. Don't think I don't have evidence of transactions

[quote=darklord666] Botting and Hacking is against our gaming way of life. [/quote] You say that, and then have the audacity to call his entire guild out. LOL. As if your guild doesn't have botters. I've seen @deathsushi92 afk using Arrow Blaster at Second Drill Hall multiple times. So don't be so quick to call others out on it. I'm friends with a lot of people and from as far as I know, they never leave Henesys or Henesys Park so don't be calling them all hackers/exploiters.

[quote=darklord666] I know you will hack me, defame me or even create mules with my IGN to hack people soon after you read this or sometime after [/quote] LOL wth is this? You seem like the one whos trying to defame someone right now, and when did account hacking come in?

Bhavs a good friend and getting dc locked must suck, but do you really think this post is going to help? Mules are disposable, some get banned, more would get made. Instead of resolving the issue you're just making it bigger. Don't get it twisted, I ain't saying not to do anything about it, but I just don't like the fact that you're being a hypocrite, and looks like one of the posts before me caught you fronting as well huh.

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
darklord666

[quote=Recording247]i suggest everyone to look up OPs past to decide whether he is legitmate or not.

Google: "darklord666" 462439

Been on OPs side for some time now and this post just make me puke of hypocrisy

Also hes been banned many times, i don't know why he is complaining

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/maintenance/ban-list/00HqI/
Ctrl+ F "DHStriker666"[/quote]

Yes, I have been banned before but not for reasons you would easily assume. I have been banned 3 times. 1st time I was banned was due to the old Typhon Map Glitch (that actually happened to a lot of unsuspecting players back then when Typhons and Windraiders were an option to train on). I was training my Ranger back then at around lvl 70, then it happened without warning. I was unaware of the glitch, reported it, then got unbanned when a maintenance had a fix for it. It would have been a month ban for me if they didn't fix it. Apparently if you used a mob attack in that map, you would get banned... I and many others did not deserve that.

The other two bans were due to a lot of issues going on with the automated banning system Nexon tried to implement before... Before and after the introduction of Black Cipher. For those who remember, it killed the game A LOT. It would randomly ban players making them unable to log in or do anything. Some people were even hell banned. I just happened to be one of those victims.

Last summer it happened the 3rd time. Good job, you found my name, you will find a lot of others who were wrongfully banned along with those who weren't. Not a very reliable source to prove I am a bad example for the community... For goodness sakes I am trying to actually help the community while many of you prefer to support those killing the game.

Keep in mind that just because I was wrongfully banned, it does not make me an illegitimate player. If you really know me like you say you do, then you would have already known this and wouldn't have attacked me for it. I am not a hypocrite in terms of being illegitimate and I have people who can back me up. I suggest doing some research before you accuse people blindly like that.

Reply November 18, 2014 - edited
JaneisFame

Khaini drama is real drama

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
Recording247

i suggest everyone to look up OPs past to decide whether he is legitmate or not.

Google: "darklord666" 462439

Been on OPs side for some time now and this post just make me puke of hypocrisy

Also hes been banned many times, i don't know why he is complaining

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/maintenance/ban-list/00HqI/
Ctrl+ F "DHStriker666"

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
bcnk78

#agreed (doesnt even play on Khaini) either way, we should stand up! lel

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
RealSoulja

Khaini drama <3

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
MapleBhav

@LuizEvilx He is referring to the people that dc hack others and how people who want to stand up can't as they fear being dc hacked themselves.

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
justaperson

The buck stops here. Show who you are.Take a stand.
I am with you on this and I do believe massive change is possible, because as my time as a player in this community, I've seen it. Remember how bad things were with LHC? Remember the people who took advantage of hackers and glitches back then, the mass bannings, the mass whining, but how greatly the quality of the community did improve when the people who thought they were naturally entitled to spit on the rules and look down on the large majority of us were booted or decided to make a statement about how much Nexon doesn't care, and were made to look the fools they were? People always will whine and complain. But let them. This is a battle in a great war. They're not the people who will matter IN this fight, though it's also FOR them, if they're only willing to give a show of feeble-hearted cowardice at present, and the ones who take front line in the name of others will have to lead by example and show other people that stooping down in times of oppression is a behavior they really are so far above... This is a war poised against our faith in each other as people. We stand together or fall divided.

You know why these challenges and oppositions exists?
For us to show the world who we are and overcome them in times of hopelessness. The people who stood in similar way are not and were not alone no matter how it may seem. We know the truth, and the truth will always stand in the long run, no matter how many people try to strike it down, so the principles we express transcend the game. They transcend us. The principles we display are the very same that govern our every day lives and though so many people try to escape here, to stand up and look challenge and discomfort straight in the eye with conviction is our first step towards accomplishing our own dreams; for in the long run, becoming the people we are meant to be. Every action we take makes a difference, and whether not we choose to persist, will in time show who we are. This is not a stand for injustice in the game. This is a stand FOR justice, period. We need to stand, not cater to dread of failure when there is almost nothing of substance to lose, yet everything that will matter to gain (our future), something we have before us: the power to create something greater than ourself, to sculpt from something that isn't already there.. And to the people who oppose or doubt what I say, I would like to call for an answer to this question:

Who are you?

These are some words that have helped us all get here, even if we didn't know it.

"I believe in the sun, even when it's not shining
I believe in Love, even when I don't feel it
and I believe in God, even when he is silent"

If you supplement the word God for Truth, then what's being said becomes clearer. [i]It was said it was seen written on the wall of a concentration camp.[/i]
If others can do it, why couldn't we?

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win."
-Mahatma Gandhi

"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible."
-T.E. Lawrence

"This is the true joy in life, the being used for a purpose recognized by yourself as a mighty one; the being thoroughly worn out before you are thrown on the scrap heap; the being a force of nature instead of a feverish selfish little clod of ailments and grievances complaining that the world will not devote itself to making you happy."
-George Bernard Shaw

[i]And if nothing else is worth reading, then take these words left by one of the strongest men in history.[/i]

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
-Theodore Roosevelt

I wish you all the best.

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
LuizEvilx

the main issue with your argument is that not everyone cares about hackers. in fact, their activities lower prices of farmable goods in the market, helping the community in general, making the p2w aspect easier to handle.

I dont support hacking. I simply know it isnt a main issue to enforce even more in the game. youre wasting your time

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
Chema

You gamers are a joke, why should a company bother to please you?
You are nothing but submissive socially deprived hermits who are an easy target for companies to screw you over, squeeze some cash and leave you craving and moaning for more

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
Raginroxas

The Maplestory community has been voicing their opinion's for years. Nexon doesnt care about the players, only the money they receive. A perfect example would be the "A better Maple" survey that they released saying that they wanted our input on whats wrong with the game. Did they bother to fix any of the issues they we had voiced out? Nope.

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
darklord666

If you believe it will never happen then it wont... If you don't put effort into it, then it wont. That is how it works, that is how the community is currently and has been in the past, but I believe all of you are more than that and CAN make a change, unfortunately it relies on everyone else to put forth the same effort. I already understand that it seems hopeless and that the dream even seems fruitless, but I am not giving up on it because I actually hope for a better maple and want to work towards that. Call me ignorant, so be it, I am ignorant or even stubborn, but at least I am positive about it and haven't given up, and only that kind of willpower will be able to introduce change. I know most of you want that change, to play a game worth the time. The only reason the game became P2W was because people asked for it. Many of you who were playing a while ago would know this to be true and unfortunately as with what all corporations do when they find a good way to make money, they saw those "needs" of ours as profitable.

Perhaps if they can see how banning foolish players cheating in the game as being profitable (which it is), then we could see such a change.

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
GazimoEnthra

It doesn't matter if people care, Nexon doesn't.

You are money to them and that's all you ever will be.

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
FriedClams

I focus on voicing for change against soggy fish and chips from Red Robin!

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
Ayzl

Nice attempt, but when will you people learn that nothing will happen? How many years have this game been in existence and how many times have stuff like this been ignored? It's good that you're taking a stand and all but no one will follow you. You should know how the maple community runs already, a bunch of self absorbed and mindless group of people that run around in game repeating the same stuff over and over for all of eternity. If you're going to do this yourself then I hope you do well, but if you're going to rely on the community then you're out of luck. Need proof? In almost every single thread here on basil there is ALWAYS at least one troll.

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
wingless666

That was very long soo I didn't bother reading most of it, but personally for me I would rather them utilize more resources
to prevent the botters or at least mitigate the damage they are causing then harassment/scamming/afk botting which are
bad but aren't as game breaking as the botters. What surprises me the most is the fact that they say they want everyone
to have a great gaming experience and they have prevented the release some content because of some sort of bug but
they haven't at least addressed elite bosses yet. The p2w issue is an issue harder to fix than the botting because of how
ingrained it is currently. One step at a time I guess..

Reply November 17, 2014 - edited
ObeySWAG

tldr
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