General

@shalazaar: I'm still trying to figure out dojo (even though I don't need the gloves), I have been able to get <5 mins. My fastest pre-revamp was 4:46, but I think that was like perfect everything in terms of spawn. I also think its better to dojo on then off your jag if you max because there really isnt time to apply the another bite debuff before killing the boss super fast.

@Darknite388 I use Onyx Jag because it looks totally badass! (has my two most favorite things with blue flames) I used Snow White prior to this jag, but both of them give the same buffs so it doesn't really matter. I only used Armored Crimson for Stat Resist in like Chaos Queen or Empress. I don't really find use for it anymore because we have high stat resist now (rocking 86%) unless I actually do want some more.

[quote=darklord666]Armored Crimson was the best to use before and after the revamp... Attack Speed was useless before and even now. Some skills are also glitched as I had a record of 5:22 in dojo, but now have it over 6:20... Something is wrong with the patch and I am sure not enough people are testing what matters...[/quote]
a) You're not using your character properly
b) Dojo times can increase despite buffs due to the nature of Dojo and latency.

@Momijii what really! That's really ! then just doing a test....

Armored Crimson was the best to use before and after the revamp... Attack Speed was useless before and even now. Some skills are also glitched as I had a record of 5:22 in dojo, but now have it over 6:20... Something is wrong with the patch and I am sure not enough people are testing what matters...

[quote=shalazaar]I prefer buff duration especially because of silent rampage +40% dmg and 100% FA, inner ability 50% buff duration will add another 30secs. Damage reduction can be offset easily by using a pet auto hp skill or potion pot.[/quote]
I'm at least 88 percent certain that buff duration does not have any impact on hyper skill buffs.

I prefer buff duration especially because of silent rampage +40% dmg and 100% FA, inner ability 50% buff duration will add another 30secs. Damage reduction can be offset easily by using a pet auto hp skill or potion pot.

I think Armored Crimson is the best now because I feel WHs don't really need +10% Buff Duration and with Crimson you get +10% Damage Reduction which is always useful.

Which Jag do u ride?
@Misusing
I want to ride the same as the pros do

@Misusing We did get quite a good buff! With Hunting Unit, Drill Salvo and the summoned jaguar our bossing capability is awesome just please fix the bugs please nexon. I wish I could get a faster dojo time though, capping dmg but still 5:30mins or so

@Elufu: I'm still looking at hyper skills and going to be messing around with them. ATM I have Attack Speed for Feline Berserk and it looks like they made the charge up for WAB slower... so that has no effect. I do have the additional damage into another bite and I feel like that does help quite a bit. I'll try putting points into shortening the CD on jag skills and see how much of a boost that can give. You should still have the hyper into the 10% attack for FB because that's just extra damage. I also have points in 20% dmg to WAB (boss really is up to you because they halfed the hyper but gave 10% to the skill itself now).

Off Topic: I guess Basil gave this account back to me, that's nice.

Edit: Once I get home, I'm probably gonna run Feline Berserk - Reinforce, all of the Summon Jaguar, and Wild Arrow Blast - Reinforce. I do feel that after playing yesterday, the attack speed is kinda useless from the Feline Berserk hyper.

Edit 2: DPS off your jaguar feels stupid OP to me atm. For the bosses that I was able to do (Hellux, HMag, Empress), health was dropping like crazy.

I didn't realize they changed jaguar buffs, can you still get 100% stance?
Also, do you know if the 10% from crimson applies to %based attacks? If so opop

@Elufu: I guess they changed the buffs that the jaguars give now?
jaira gives +5% crit rate [though switching around jags, i dont see an increase to the crit rate ._.]
snow white and onyx gives +10% buff duration
and armored crimson gives 10% dmg absorption

@athmyst: Did I miss something about the change on armored crimson o.o?

(What's the preferred Jaguar now.. in training and bossing?)

@Elufu: K so far
+45% stat resist ( 30% summon jag [unmounted] + 15% natural force) <riding the armored crimson doesnt give stat resist boost>
(does evasion rate = avoid chance + dodge chance? if so, thats correct)
+45% dmg reduction (armored crimson is 10% dmg absorption, other skills correct)
HP is correct.

@athmyst: A little off-topic but could you or any WH confirm the following? (updating the bowman utility wiki)

*+80% HP (20% from __Jaguar Mastery__, +50% from __Feline Berserk__ and +10% from Hyper Skill)
*55% Damage Reduction (15% from __Call of the Wild__, 20% from __Backstep__ and 20% when riding the Armored Crimson Jaguar)
*+55% Evasion rate (+15% from __Call of the Wild__, +40% from __Flurry__)
*+65% Status Resist (+ 30% from __Summon Jaguar__, +15%from __Nature Force__ and +20% when riding Armored Crimson)

FYI - pre-black heaven
+140% HP (40% from Jaguar Rider, +80% from Feline Berserk and +20% from Hyper Skill)
40% Damage Reduction (20% from Call of the Wild and 20% when riding the Armored Crimson Jaguar)
+60% Evasion rate (+10%from Wild Instinct, +20%Call of the Wild, +30%from Evasion Boost)
+40% Status Resist (+20% when riding Armored Crimson and + 20%from Silent Rampage)

[quote=Elufu]^Attack speed is... kind of useless for WHs except when mobbing but even so they attack pretty fast. Replace it with Jaguar- cooltime reduce or enhance.

The "bleed" is the new FA for WH also called "another bite", an extra 10% damage isn't too bad. To maintain the 2nd fa, you need to keep debuffing your enemies with jaguar skills or your summon. Jagauar skills generally have a higher rate of debuffing, so in the end I feel the cooltime reduce would help you more in terms of overall DPS.

Not a WH main and all this content is brand new, so I'd wait for some WH experts to make comments. (@Misusing )[/quote]
I had a lil time and tried it out, yeaaa i agree att speed isnt what it used to be
thought you would be able to use jag skills while on jag.

^Attack speed is... kind of useless for WHs except when mobbing but even so they attack pretty fast. Replace it with Jaguar- cooltime reduce or enhance.

The "bleed" is the new FA for WH also called "another bite", an extra 10% damage isn't too bad. To maintain the 2nd fa, you need to keep debuffing your enemies with jaguar skills or your summon. Jagauar skills generally have a higher rate of debuffing, so in the end I feel the cooltime reduce would help you more in terms of overall DPS.

Not a WH main and all this content is brand new, so I'd wait for some WH experts to make comments. (@Misusing )

id prolly go with att speed, att boost and all of the WAB ones