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Yeaaaaa totes.

@Darkwizzie There are some nice and helpful people here, but a lot of the stupidity is what drives people away. Please forgive me if I sounded harsh, I've been holding that in for a while. I think if you completely steer clear of the chat section you should be good. Chat Island is basically a junior version of Reddit, which also is a circlejerky website.

If you ignore or play along with the trolls in the general section eventually there will be a somewhat intelligent discussion. I also completely agree with what you said regarding inflation and botting, people just dont realize how bad it is.

[quote=QuackOutLoud]@Darkwizzie: You're pretty right about that, regardless of what community you are in, there will always be that group of people that has to be the worst people in the world, but some communities do have more of those people than others, which is why they get mentioned more than others (Youtube and CoD community example).

I totally agree with you and that's where my thoughts for NX have been for the longest time; but you may have misunderstood what I said.
What I meant by extremity of NX was the amount people had to pay, in order to get good in this game. It's pay-to-win in a most extreme fashion. Other games don't require you to spend so much of their Cash currency to get you far in the game, but I know for a fact that NX does! I have spent tons of NX in the past on NX clothing, but zero on stuff to upgrade my equipment, and because of that, there is a lot of content I'm missing out on, simply because I'm not strong enough and don't do enough damage.
(Example: There is currently a Cash Shop item that increases an extra potential line for items with two lines of potential, for about 10000 NX, which is ten dollars JUST to add another line of potential! It's pretty ridiculous!)
I understand a lot of people love this game and WANT to spend their money on NX, but the way this game is, it basically forces you to.[/quote]

Oh, if that's what you meant either I'm too tired and missed that or your post wasn't clear enough. But yes, I agree wholeheartedly. A big part of that is driven by the botting community. It's on full rampage mode. The inflation is ridiculous. Actually going to kill monsters for money for the regular kid is pretty worthless for profit because NPCing the items nets no real profit. I would have guessed this type of situation would kill off the game in its core, but it seems many players of this game are used to it. As I like to say, when Runescape first put up double xp day, there were many haters. Same for "Squeal of Fortune" where players could buy "spins" and get some items. The Squeal of Fortune rage continues to this day and it's not nearly as bad as Maplestory. But Runescape didn't originally have all that and the entire mindset was very much against pay to win. Not so with Maplestory, where the Cash Shop has always been an integral part of the game. This means it makes sense if more players are fine with the pay to play nature of this game. Fine as in, not mad enough to quit or post rage threads.

Another aspect of course... is the idea that we have to pay NX to sell boss drops... I have yet to see that kind of thing implemented in other games... I've seen people having to pay $5 to recover lost password in a game but that's a small game with no automated system for doing that and a very adult mentality going on over there. I guess over time on Maplestory, some of my friends list and after coming back to MS after a 4-5 year break... I find nothing to do after 4 months. Shame.

[quote=MagicFrappe]1. I don't think many people care. I think they see it as a simple Facebook-type game, but also think spending NX is pointless and a waste of money. (Most people think spending money on online games is pointless anyway.) I'm sure if they were to see a grown man playing it they would think it's strange, but people can do whatever they want with their time.

2. I can guarantee you when other Maplers see Basilmarket they say it's a horrible, horrible gaming community website. The chat-section is filled with angsty, teenage progressive liberals that have a superiority complex the size of the Sun, the general section manages to hold grudges against certain classes in the game as if they have some personal vendetta against them, and generally if you even attempt to ask a question it will be filled with troll answers from ten year olds thinking they're funny.[/quote]

There are some trolling around these parts, but isn't that so for other communities as well? Basil's seem a worse than the official forums though. I guess I often just steer clear of threads I know will be problematic and I don't really go into conversations with trollers. I've had my share of more heated debates on religion I must admit but I look back on it fondly.

[quote=Pereeia]@Darkwizzie: 1. I would most likely ignore them, but if I really had to say something I'd tell them that it's just a game and they should chill
2. Oops. Some people would think the Basil community is immature which is a bit true since I see a lot of trolls. The smarter people can be really funny/helpful though [/quote]
Alright.

@Darkwizzie: 1. I would most likely ignore them, but if I really had to say something I'd tell them that it's just a game and they should chill
2. Oops. Some people would think the Basil community is immature which is a bit true since I see a lot of trolls. The smarter people can be really funny/helpful though

1. I don't think many people care. I think they see it as a simple Facebook-type game, but also think spending NX is pointless and a waste of money. (Most people think spending money on online games is pointless anyway.) I'm sure if they were to see a grown man playing it they would think it's strange, but people can do whatever they want with their time.

2. I can guarantee you when other Maplers see Basilmarket they say it's a horrible, horrible gaming community website. The chat-section is filled with angsty, teenage progressive liberals that have a superiority complex the size of the Sun, the general section manages to hold grudges against certain classes in the game as if they have some personal vendetta against them, and generally if you even attempt to ask a question it will be filled with troll answers from ten year olds thinking they're funny.

[quote=Pereeia]1. Depends on the person. Most people would assume it would either be stupid or be meant for kids. I was attracted to this game because of the 'cute' graphics and the fact that it's not 3D.
2. They would just know it's a Maplestory forum. If they don't play Maplestory I doubt they would really be interested in reading the threads.[/quote]

1. What would you say to somebody that makes fun of you for playing "a kids game"?
2. My bad, I mean how do other Maplers not in Basil feel about Basil.

@Darkwizzie: You're pretty right about that, regardless of what community you are in, there will always be that group of people that has to be the worst people in the world, but some communities do have more of those people than others, which is why they get mentioned more than others (Youtube and CoD community example).

I totally agree with you and that's where my thoughts for NX have been for the longest time; but you may have misunderstood what I said.
What I meant by extremity of NX was the amount people had to pay, in order to get good in this game. It's pay-to-win in a most extreme fashion. Other games don't require you to spend so much of their Cash currency to get you far in the game, but I know for a fact that NX does! I have spent tons of NX in the past on NX clothing, but zero on stuff to upgrade my equipment, and because of that, there is a lot of content I'm missing out on, simply because I'm not strong enough and don't do enough damage.
(Example: There is currently a Cash Shop item that increases an extra potential line for items with two lines of potential, for about 10000 NX, which is ten dollars JUST to add another line of potential! It's pretty ridiculous!)
I understand a lot of people love this game and WANT to spend their money on NX, but the way this game is, it basically forces you to.

1. Depends on the person. Most people would assume it would either be stupid or be meant for kids. I was attracted to this game because of the 'cute' graphics and the fact that it's not 3D.
2. They would just know it's a Maplestory forum. If they don't play Maplestory I doubt they would really be interested in reading the threads.

[quote=QuackOutLoud]People buy game cards for other games too, but they just don't know the extremity of NX, but in their view it may still be normal.

The Basilmarket community is just absolutely horrid, but at least its not as bad as the Youtube community.[/quote]

Hey, thanks for the reply.
I think often, people tend to diss the community they are in... Runescape, Maplestory, Youtube, whatever. I think we get crap no matter where we go in the interwebs, that's a fact of life... I've heard horror stories of the COD community though. I think Basilmarket community is OK. There are a lot of people that don't participate in any meaningful conversation (which is in my own personal opinion of course), but there are people that do bring up interesting topics. I do remember partaking in some pretty interesting discussions... the religion threads can be dicey sometimes but in the long run I think they are a fun exercise.

Regarding buying NX: People can spend a lot of money on a variety of things. I recently just purchased and assembled a $1400 gaming PC. To some that is ridiculous BS. But I have an interest in computers. Some people have a serious interest in Maplestory and they feel spending that cash is justified. As long as they are not depriving themselves of food or making a purchase they obviously cannot afford to make, who cares? It's not our place to tell others what they should or shouldn't do with their own money. The fact that NX is "not real" doesn't necessarily hold any water. It exists in the form of electron states on some server. But less sarcastically I mean, all it comes down to in life are experiences. When I use my new computer, it's an experience. I'm paying for the experience of gaming on no lag. By paying for NX or whatnot, one is paying for the experiences that are associated with having an abundant amount of NX.

People buy game cards for other games too, but they just don't know the extremity of NX, but in their view it may still be normal.

The Basilmarket community is just absolutely horrid, but at least its not as bad as the Youtube community.

[quote=Impf]pretty sure people who don't play maplestory don't even know what basilmarket is[/quote]

Most likely, yes. By the second question I mostly implied other Maplers not in Basilmarket. I think some people in the official forums seem to view this forum community negatively.

pretty sure people who don't play maplestory don't even know what basilmarket is

1. People who don't play would probably think it's stupid. I know I did before I played.

2. The Basil community is full of 12 year old. LOL jk... idk.

like a kids game