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@KidWave your stories were entertaining for some reason. maybe it was the way you wrote it out.

[quote=KidWave]@nindow: I make threads about girls I encounter. They happen to be Asian.

Spanish girls are my #1 but my school is 80% Asian so ya, statistically, the girls will be Asian.

Sorry to disappoint you. :^)[/quote]

oh snap its you. i remember now. you did talk about how you liked brown skinned girls and even more when they have braces. but you usually talked about asians so i thought you had yellow fever and people would be like "he has yellow fever!".

[quote=KidWave]I don't even have yellow fever. ):[/quote]

im pretty sure that you arent him. cause that guy would make threads about his fever.

@ShoutOuts same here. when i read the thread title, the first thing that came into my mind was @RitoPls

[quote=Datfeelwhen]i feel u brah but this is the first time ive been called a racist my whole life and it hurts [/quote]

I'm going to kick your butt.

i'm just failing to see the similarities between differences in taste and racial segregation.

i'm just failing to see the similarities between differences in taste and racial segregation.

Why would that be racist? Because it's a stupid term?

What I find repulsive : When ( insert race) goes to Asian countries because they think they can do whatever they want with Asian women( this can be also said for other race as well). >.< </3

[quote=evyxx]@Datfeelwhen: so basically you think hot people are hot and a lot of those hot people happen to be asian?[/quote]

pretty much.

@Datfeelwhen: so basically you think hot people are hot and a lot of those hot people happen to be asian?

[quote=evyxx]its weird to ONLY be attracted to them or be attracted because you view them as submissive or foreign or weird... its weird to be like i have an asian fetish but there's 100% nothing wrong with finding an individual attractive. i dont understand how you can say you find all asians attractive b/c...theres so many....r u sure? uve seen them ALL?

for me its more like...hot ppl are hot. not only hot people of X race or every people of X race. tbh i find darker skin more attractive and my bf finds paler skin more attractive but its not like the ONLY reason we're attracted to each other, ya dig?[/quote]

I dont find them all attractive LOL. but anyways im done arguing this tbh

its weird to ONLY be attracted to them or be attracted because you view them as submissive or foreign or weird... its weird to be like i have an asian fetish but there's 100% nothing wrong with finding an individual attractive. i dont understand how you can say you find all asians attractive b/c...theres so many....r u sure? uve seen them ALL?

for me its more like...hot ppl are hot. not only hot people of X race or every people of X race. tbh i find darker skin more attractive and my bf finds paler skin more attractive but its not like the ONLY reason we're attracted to each other, ya dig?

[quote=Datfeelwhen]well many=/= all. you cant just throw stereotypes like that[/quote]
Congrats! You don't think east asian women like that! Have a cookie!
Like i've said before. If you like girls for their personality and coincidentally, are all east asians, then that is not racist.
BUT, if you target ONLY east asians, regardless of whether you think they're exotic or whatever, but you ONLY have a preference for east asians,
you have a problem.
simple as that.
lol bye you're a hopeless case.

[quote=Wanton]believe it or not, this is what many non-asians with yellow fever treat east asians! now if you're going to continue defending yourself then run along because there is no use arguing with you. You asked on a forum what people thought of yellow fever and you got what you wanted.[/quote]

well many=/= all. you cant just throw stereotypes like that

[quote=Datfeelwhen]so youre assuming that i view east asians as "exotic"/etc? lel[/quote]

believe it or not, this is what many non-asians with yellow fever treat east asians! now if you're going to continue defending yourself then run along because there is no use arguing with you. You asked on a forum what people thought of yellow fever and you got what you wanted.
Here, let me [url=https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=yellow+fever+is+racist&gws_rd=ssl]google[/url] so you can start your journey on finding out why yellow fever is bad.

[quote=Wanton]You don't look at your own people like they're exotic or some fantastic zoo animals. .[/quote]

so youre assuming that i view east asians as "exotic"/etc? lel

[quote=Icephoenix21]Is it even considered yellow fever if it's among your own race?

Since TS was inquiring about the phrase I kinda assumed he was non-Asian. But i'm genuinely curious as to what you think in that regard.[/quote]
na, if you're east asian you can't have yellow fever. You just can't fetishise your own people. Like, you are born east asian. You're born into an east asian family (unless you're adopted) you know about your culture (well, most likely you do unless you're not about that stuff) You don't look at your own people like they're exotic or some fantastic zoo animals. You just see them as people, because they're like you, racially.
However, this can be argued because there are those kpop fans. I've witnessed east asians who were not korean, obsess with kpop celebrities. Some are so obsessed, that they want to marry ONLY korean people. Like, "oh, he's korean? Thats so hot! I love korean men. they're so (insert fantasy they got from some kdrama)". That itself is disgusting and frankly, I am disappointed. Some view this as a form of yellow fever. This is where things get complicated because some people are like ya its yellow fever and some are like na it aint. I think whatever you call it, its still bad lol.
I personally do not view this as yellow fever because to me, yellow fever is reserved for people who are non-asians. It is when non-asians are obsessed with ALL east asians. It doesn't matter if you're korean or chinese or thai, as long as you're east asian.
In the case of those kpop people obsessed with ONLY korean people, i view them as people who fetishise koreans and are racist.

So did anyone hear about the Dolphins?

[quote=Wanton]looks like someone is mad that they're called out on their fetish.[/quote]

I cant be mad since i dont have a fetish.

[quote=Wanton]hey guess what! Things are applied differently based on your race! believe it or not!
Preferring your own race is not racial preference because its your own race. You have the right to prefer someone because you have that cultural connection and trust that they don't fetishise you. However, it IS a problem if you ONLY prefer your own race.[/quote]

Is it even considered yellow fever if it's among your own race?

Since TS was inquiring about the phrase I kinda assumed he was non-Asian. But i'm genuinely curious as to what you think in that regard.

[quote=Datfeelwhen]cool a double standard. now i know that your opinion is completely invalid.[/quote]

looks like someone is mad that they're called out on their fetish.

[quote=Wanton]hey guess what! Things are applied differently based on your race! believe it or not![/quote]

cool a double standard. now i know that your opinion is completely invalid.

[quote=Datfeelwhen]Its not fetishism but its still racial preference, by your definition its still racist.[/quote]

hey guess what! Things are applied differently based on your race! believe it or not!
Preferring your own race is not racial preference because its your own race. You have the right to prefer someone because you have that cultural connection and trust that they don't fetishise you. However, it IS a problem if you ONLY prefer your own race.

[quote=Wanton]
If you were asian, that is a different story. Typically, if you are east asian and are attracted to east asians, that is not racial fetishism. .[/quote]

Its not fetishism but its still racial preference, by your definition its still racist.

[quote=Datfeelwhen]Im a person of color too. So are you implying that if i were asian it would be okay? Im not fetishising anyone. I'm just calling you out on your delusion. :^)[/quote]

Delusion? I simply asked if you were white and you didn't answer. I provided information as to why it is important to know if you were white.
If you were asian, that is a different story. Typically, if you are east asian and are attracted to east asians, that is not racial fetishism. You cannot fetishise your own people. That itself is self explanatory. However, if you are east asian and are like "I want to date other east asians because I believe in the stereotype that they are submissive and blah blah!" then that is internalized racism. Not fetishism.
Seriously, I am just calling you out on your fetishism. Based on your attitude, you don't seem to see anything wrong with yellow fever. Why did you even start this thread if you aren't going to listen to people, let alone simply google this stuff...

Kinda, but don't think that just because someone mentions a race that they're automatically racist.

[quote=Wanton]yes it does. Because if you're white and a person of colour is telling you that you are being racist by having a racial preference, then you should listen.
I, someone who is east asian and have dealt with this before, along with many other east asian women am telling you that yellow fever is racist.
You really shouldn't feel defensive about this. I am merely calling you out. I'm not asking you to bend down and ask for forgiveness.
But you know what? have fun fetishising east asian women. I hope you find someone who is east asian and is okay with your yellow fever and y'all live happily ever after.
I recommend you google why yellow fever is bad, and look for stuff that are written by east asians, from their experience.[/quote]

Im a person of color too. So are you implying that if i were asian it would be okay? Im not fetishising anyone. I'm just calling you out on your delusion. :^)

[quote=Datfeelwhen]Why do you need to know? does it make a difference?[/quote]

yes it does. Because if you're white and a person of colour is telling you that you are being racist by having a racial preference, then you should listen.
I, someone who is east asian and have dealt with this before, along with many other east asian women am telling you that yellow fever is racist.
You really shouldn't feel defensive about this. I am merely calling you out. I'm not asking you to bend down and ask for forgiveness.
But you know what? have fun fetishising east asian women. I hope you find someone who is east asian and is okay with your yellow fever and y'all live happily ever after.
I recommend you google why yellow fever is bad, and look for stuff that are written by east asians, from their experience.

[quote=Datfeelwhen]Why do you need to know? does it make a difference?[/quote]

So defensive. I'll take that as a yes.

[quote=Wanton]@Datfeelwhen: Are you white?[/quote]

Why do you need to know? does it make a difference?

@Datfeelwhen: Are you white?

[quote=Wanton]No. A preference is something that is shared by all races. Examples: Liking big noses, thin eyebrows, long hair, big lips, beards, curly hair. These are characteristics that can be found in all races. [/quote]

preference
1.a greater liking for one alternative over another or others.

Your first point is already wrong.

[quote=Wanton]I, as a person of colour, am telling you that your racial preference is not a compliment, and is a problem. [/quote]

I never implied that a racial preference is a compliment, once again projecting.

[quote=Datfeelwhen]I don't see this as a problem though, isn't it just preference? Also, you were projecting a lot in your previous comment.[/quote]

No. A preference is something that is shared by all races. Examples: Liking big noses, thin eyebrows, long hair, big lips, beards, curly hair. These are characteristics that can be found in all races.
I, as a person of colour, am telling you that your racial preference is not a compliment, and is a problem.
If YOU don't see this as a problem, then whatever. Go find an asian girl that likes being fetishised and you can all live happily ever after.
If you want to learn more about why yellow fever is racist, simply google it.
And if you STILL don't see it as a problem, well...

[quote=Wanton]However, if you specifically target east asian women and find yourself more attracted to east asian women than others, then you have a problem.[/quote]

I don't see this as a problem though, isn't it just preference? Also, you were projecting a lot in your previous comment.

@Datfeelwhen: If its coincidental, then its fine I would say. That's not yellow fever.
If you believe that if an asian girl who's personality you liked magically switched ethnicity and was white, black, brown, native, and whatever,
and you would STILL like her regardless of her race
then its not yellow fever.
However, if you specifically target east asian women and find yourself more attracted to east asian women than others, then you have a problem.

[quote=Wanton]@Datfeelwhen don't feel hurt. Redeem yourself. Recognize that its racist and better yourself.

I'm going to add on to what I said earlier (which was a yes, its racist) since I'm wide awake and not sleepy.
Does having yellow fever make you racist?
The answer is: yes. Having a racial preference makes you racist. Its not the type of racism that people usually think about like calling someone a racial slur, but it is indeed a form of racism. Here's why.
1. You're attracted to asian girls? Why? Why SPECIFICALLY east asian women? Commonly, those with yellow fever think east asian women are exotic, or "submissive". Perpetuating stereotypes like east asian women being submissive is racist and I think its self explanatory as to why that is.
You're only attracted to their physical appearance? The problem with this is many people think things like "omg asian girls are so kawaii! sugoi desu!" or like "They're so exotic... they're eyes..." like what the hell? Thats gross and creepy af. Treat us like people, please. We are not animals and are not exotic like we are not rare k.
Its also pretty rude to only target asian women just because they're asian. Like, that's it? That's the reason you're attracted to me? Get outta here.
Having a racial preference is not okay. Its fetishism. You also put us on a pedestal and that ain't cool. Putting one race over another ain't cool man.
I say its a different story if you've been attracted to women that just happen to be asian.[/quote]

It's all coincidental to me though. I dont have a reason really.

@Datfeelwhen don't feel hurt. Redeem yourself. Recognize that its racist and better yourself.

I'm going to add on to what I said earlier (which was a yes, its racist) since I'm wide awake and not sleepy.
Does having yellow fever make you racist?
The answer is: yes. Having a racial preference makes you racist. Its not the type of racism that people usually think about like calling someone a racial slur, but it is indeed a form of racism. Here's why.
1. You're attracted to asian girls? Why? Why SPECIFICALLY east asian women? Commonly, those with yellow fever think east asian women are exotic, or "submissive". Perpetuating stereotypes like east asian women being submissive is racist and I think its self explanatory as to why that is.
You're only attracted to their physical appearance? The problem with this is many people think things like "omg asian girls are so kawaii! sugoi desu!" or like "They're so exotic... they're eyes..." like what the hell? Thats gross and creepy af. Treat us like people, please. We are not animals and are not exotic like we are not rare k.
Its also pretty rude to only target asian women just because they're asian. Like, that's it? That's the reason you're attracted to me? Get outta here.
Having a racial preference is not okay. Its fetishism. You also put us on a pedestal and that ain't cool. Putting one race over another ain't cool man.
I say its a different story if you've been attracted to women that just happen to be asian.

You're attracted to who you're attracted to.

Some people are interested in men only.
Some people are interested in women only.
Some people are into white people only.
Some people are into Asians only.
You can keep making a list for many things.

It's just a label. People are into what they're into.

[quote=ShoutOuts]man errbody got preferences
the problem is when people IMPOSE tat all asian people the same.
REINFORCING teh sterotype.[/quote]

i feel u brah but this is the first time ive been called a racist my whole life and it hurts

[quote=BabysAreFood] between coincidentally finding yourself attracted to Asian people.[/quote]

does this make it okay or nah

@Datfeelwhen: I can't say. Once again, I'm a white, straight female.

[quote=Icephoenix21]@Datfeelwhen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWFQ1uiD8LA[/quote]

that certainly cant be the majority right

in a sense, any racial preference for attraction is by definition racist because it diminishes the qualities of a person down to their race and ethnic upbringing, and it pins certain stereotyped qualities and expectations (e.g. Asians being demure) upon them. of course, there is a distinct difference between coincidentally finding yourself attracted to Asian people and consciously pursuing potential partners based on whether they are of one race or another. there could also be a discussion of how racism is already internalized and relevant in your selection without your realization, but that's another story. every person has a unique collection of qualities that encompass their being, so reducing their entire being down to them being X race is discriminatory and prejudiced behavior. so by this definition, yellow fever, or any other ethnic fetish is racist.

@Datfeelwhen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWFQ1uiD8LA

[quote=Icephoenix21]As a white female I don't know if I have the right to call it racist or not, but if some (nonwhite) dude treated me like how these guys with yellow fever treat asian women, I'd be offended and creeped out.[/quote]

how do they treat them if i may ask? I treat all races the same.

[quote=Datfeelwhen]i dont attribute it to specific personality traits though..[/quote]

Maybe this isn't appropriate to say hear but I'd recommend reading M. Butterfly by David Henry Hwang.

It gives a lot of insight about how Eastern culture views Western males/how Eastern culture views Western males' view on Eastern females.

Plus I just think it's a good read. By the end you will be able to answer your own question in regards to it being racist or not. Just don't google around too much or you'll spoil the story and not really get the gist of what the author was trying to get across.

Heres a short answer: yes.

[quote=muchadvice]I'm not sure but usually guys with yellow fever justify their fetish by attributing these specific personality traits based on stereotypes of Asian women and that is racist.[/quote]

i dont attribute it to specific personality traits though..

Let me ask @Rationnel , because I know she has yellow fever o.o