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Protip: Use a Familiar while killing it because it makes BGA un-aggro'd.

complaining about a boss that is too hard for you? Well tougher up and get some skills and not just idle yourself in one stop spamming 1/2 buttons

I've recently solo'ed it. I was 162 at the time. It's not too bad, remember to set down puppets.

They're back to normal. Provides SOME challenge... BGA stuns a lot, BGB kills your MP like crazy, and Grandpa 1/1's a lot

@Elitist: That might explain why hard hilla still own's me

[quote=shivam101]beyond easy on bms/wild hunters...
just gotta stand at the right spot and he won't stun you.
buffing is the hardest part because you get stunned once or twice when you stop firing[/quote]

Without puppet right? I saw a BM can kill first Body Guard without being stunned. I tried with Rapid Fire on Phantom, but I couldn't find the right spot, it could be that the range is a bit shorter?

Something in this game should be hard.

soloed yesterday on my BM in under 7 min, boss A and B ;]

1. Set up puppet on far right.
2. Summon.
3. Wait for BG to get aggro'd by puppet and face all the way to right
4. Stand a little to the left of the candle in the bg.
5. Spam attack until he's dead.

It's like your not even trying as a BM.

I killed my first bga, bgb and grandpachi 2 months ago. I knew 4 years ago that bodyguard A is would keep stunning for most of his attacks. Obviously, this was intended for parties to deal with.

You were able to kill it with ease because they intentionally removed the option for them to attack. I'm surprised they fixed these in Showa and left Castellan and Castellan toad messed up.

[quote=Snowbunnix3]@TripleBladez: Nope, Db's have 70% Dodge rate and 15% Avoid.

Source: My skills tab.[/quote]

Um...
Well, According to SP: [url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=58949&title=Dual%20Blade%20%22dodge%22]Dual Blade "dodge"[/url]
DB's should have "avoid rate x 1.7" (not dodge rate) if all three skills are maxed.
Maybe the descriptions are wrong in the skill tab. (most likely scenario)

@TripleBladez: Nope, Db's have 70% Dodge rate and 15% Avoid.

Source: My skills tab.

Lol , I pretty much solo-ed The Boss at Lv. 169 , and my friend died during Bodyguard B , and the other person d/c'd.

All cures don't work on stun neither does heros will. Keep him pinned down as much as possible so he can't attack u.

I have no problem killing the bosses... and I even kill them fast so... its just you.

thats normal GB. welcome to actual bosses instead of noob crap that doesnt fight back. personally i still finish all three in 5mins so idk why your having so much trouble especially when you have puppet.

beyond easy on bms/wild hunters...
just gotta stand at the right spot and he won't stun you.
buffing is the hardest part because you get stunned once or twice when you stop firing

[quote=viggykuppu]@all you retards calling him a noob
bga and bgb is hard for a ranged class with abseloutly no avoid literally bms have like 30% while other noob classes like phantgays and failcedes have like 50%[/quote]

Ohoho, it seems someone's mad that they're inferior to new classes.

[quote=ilikefoodand]I solo'ed it. Wanna see the monster cards as proof? o.o[/quote]

SO PRETTY

Only if they still did like 15k damage...

It is possible, I done it on my hero, my chat box was spammed with stunned message tho

[quote=viggykuppu]@all you retards calling him a noob
bga and bgb is hard for a ranged class with abseloutly no avoid literally bms have like 30% while other noob classes like phantgays and failcedes have like 50%[/quote]

I'm ranged and I do just fine.

It's possible to kill it pretty fast still, just don't go there if you're weak.. lol

Puppet the corner, and the get yourself on top of the yellow platform, and then pin him. Move to the edge of hurricane's range, and that should pin him until you need to rebuff. Pretty easy with a little practice.

Its hard to boss as a ranged class....or a shad. Stop calling him a noob, its uncalled for.

[quote=3amrii]That's how the boss is Supposed to be in the first place.
In the previous Updates and Versions there was a Glitch or Bug that disabled monsters from being able to attack, however now it seems everything is back to place.
you Just have to deal with it.[/quote]

This is the truth. Be glad it's post-BB too because the Showa bosses could literally KO you if they came close enough before.

@Snowbunnix3: It's actually 70% Avoid Rate. DB's have 0% Dodge Rate.

[quote=Snowbunnix3]You forgot about us Dual Bladers with our 70% dodge.[/quote]

I think its more like 100% dodge...
I afked my db at 2nd drill hall, sat down in a chair, and afk for 4 hrs.
Came back, still sitting there. Didn't move a single pixel.

It's a glitch.

how horrible, the bosses are working like they should! what a tragedy.

[they are still insanely easy... just get a class that doesn't die in 2 hits and has abnormal resistance/dodge...

Flame wheel ftw, I spam that from a distance, never got stunned once.

I solo'ed it. Wanna see the monster cards as proof? o.o

[quote=viggykuppu]all you retards calling him a noob
bga and bgb is hard for a ranged class with abseloutly no avoid literally bms have like 30% while other noob classes like phantgays and failcedes have like 50%[/quote]

Cry to me nooblord. Also, Im sorry but you're retarded. Showa bosses are easy on BM / MM. They got something called puppet.

[quote=mousepound]@SacredSealed
I actually have to use tank to pin the bodyguards to the corner at first as well as use my buffs and buildings, so I still have to go through the stun during that time.[/quote]

Still, mechs dont have to deal with the frequent stun for long.
Though I DO agree with The Boss, seals and 1/1s for a pirate is annoying.
Just that mechs still fire so you have to release the button and use an all cure, to be sealed again.

I kill him all the time. The trick is to have a pretty strong familiar with you with no other summons (bird, mage summons, etc. . .) each time the familiar atks bodyguard a. He becomes a non-hostile enemy again until you atk him again

@SacredSealed
I actually have to use tank to pin the bodyguards to the corner at first as well as use my buffs and buildings, so I still have to go through the stun during that time.

@diosoth When you had an easy time killing bga/b before, it was because for for quite a few months, they were glitched and would not attack. What you're experiencing now is how they were meant to be. From what I know about BM/MM the trick is to keep puppet out at all times and stand on top of the treasure chest near the corner on the right side. For NL's we just jump shoot to avoid the stuns, which works pretty well, but I know jump attacking is hard for archers.

If you can't come up with an effective strategy for bga though then the boss will be even worse as he 1/1's and seals like crazy.

When you attempted it at lv 150 it was glitched, along with castellan. The way they're now is the way they have been since their release many years ago. Although anego used to do like 30k slaps @-@

To solo it your best chance is either to be a class with high avoid or to tank the body to constantly get hit by touch damage instead of his kicks/punches. Or as others have said try using puppet.

[quote=mousepound]You think the bodyguards are bad? You haven't seen how much more annoying grandpa boss is.[/quote]

Only mechanics dont think bga is hard.
You guys can fire thru stuns...

You think the bodyguards are bad? You haven't seen how much more annoying grandpa boss is.

havent tried it yet, i should probs try i hit about 200k with miles and 250k per hit with rapid fire

I've killed them after they were able to attack again. It took me about 25 - 30 mins. Yeah, my avoid is complete crap. With my friend, it only took us about 10 minutes.

[quote=viggykuppu]@all you retards calling him a noob
bga and bgb is hard for a ranged class with abseloutly no avoid literally bms have like 30% while other noob classes like phantgays and failcedes have like 50%[/quote]

Uh, you forgot alot of classes, including classes with guard or guarding skills.
Plus, puppet.

They can attack and use status effects again since the Justice patch IIRC. Use Puppet to solo BGA.

That's how they are supposed to be. They were "glitched" to not attack in an earlier patch, and then they were fixed. Bodyguard A, contrary to how stupid it may seem, is in fact supposed to stun with the vast majority of his attacks.

[quote=viggykuppu]@all you retards calling him a noob
bga and bgb is hard for a ranged class with abseloutly no avoid literally bms have like 30% while other noob classes like phantgays and failcedes have like 50%[/quote]

You forgot about us Dual Bladers with our 70% dodge.

That how it's supposed to be.

I remember one of my shadower friends being able to kill it because he was able to dodge all the stuns.

[quote=diosoth]All I know is, when I was in the level 150 range I could go to Showa, kill the 2 bodyguards easily and not have too much trouble with the boss.

I go in today at level 189, and the first bodyguard is basically unkillable. Every hit that doesn't miss stuns me, constant re-stuns while stunned, and barely getting to move long enough to kit for more than 500K of damage before being stunned again. I had to get over to Konpei and leave. I don't see how this guy is killable even with all cures, because you're stunned again too easily. You'd need a full party to even have a chance, and I saw NOTHING about any sort of overhaul or changes to Showa's bosses. Anego wasn't altered, but a boss that I had no trouble with at 150 is now stomping me at 189, which can't happen unless they really changed the monster's stats.[/quote]

Obviously, you aint using puppet.
Also, dont just hurricane, but snipe.
And your post about cures is invalid, because cures dont work on stuns.
Plus, its just you.