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Nexon hating Europe

It's official (at least in my opinion) that Nexon hates Europe. I know I know, it's Nexon North America but the game is still called [b]GLOBAL[/b] MapleStory.

The reason: Honor expericence is available only from 2 pm to 8 pm which is from midnight till 6 am in GMT +2.

I mean come on it's bad enough that I cannot participate in 2x exp events and I never find a SH party for being European. Children/youth attend school early in the morning so it's bad for them to stay up all night gaining honor exp to make their stats increase a bit. And I work in shifts therefore I need to have a good sleeping rhythm so I can sleep early and wake up early. Should they make it from 12 pm to 8 pm would be enough for me to gain honor exp even sometimes for I don't even imagine to do the Azwan quests for hours.

For me it seems like Nexon is trying to make all the Europeans to rage quit so they can make it officially AMS (American MapleStory). When less Europeans play they can announce that due to the lack of European people playing they are changing it AMS.

/rant

EDIT: This is of the view of an European, no offence towards the Australian community <3

July 26, 2012

35 Comments • Newest first

Doomfinger

@snowboy8 Actually I don't care. It's just fun to see you get frustrated over my every post. But I gotta go sleep now it's 45 minutes for honor exp but I have to wake up at 6 am (when honor exp ends) to go to work

Reply July 26, 2012
Doomfinger

@snowboy8 you act like I even care. I posted it and I don't regret it

Reply July 26, 2012
maplefreak26

[quote=ShadowBo0m]EDIT:
@maplefreak26:
The Europeans that still play GMS are because they were playing probably way before you. They have the same right to complain as you.
And explain to me how something called GLOBAL isn't meant for the whole GLOBE? EMS came way after GMS was created, and you can't force someone who has spend money and effort in this game, to just leave and start from scratch in another game, or version of it.
I'll use the same example: If you lived in Mexico, and they created Mexico MS, would you move there? NO, because you have spend your time and money in this game.
Europeans won't leave because of you, "and you can't do anything about it".[/quote]

Way before me? Are you really going to pull that out of your ass?

I'm not saying you can't play, it's just that you don't have the right to complain. There's MSE for European players with events and content catered to Europeans. If you don't want to play that, then play your old GMS account. But you chose to come to GMS when you have the option to have a lag-free experience with event times catered to your time zone.

If they created a MexicoMS, no, I would not move there. But do I have the right to complain about event times and stuff? No and I don't need to. Time zones already fit just fine with the American continent.

Reply July 26, 2012
ShadowBo0m

[quote=snowboy8]@ShadowBo0m: [url=http://maplestory.wikia.com/wiki/MapleStory_Global]Look here.[/url] Since you are not aware, they changed Global to only north America and Oceania. It is not meant to be used for countries that have there own Version. Europe has its own version so GMS does not need to do anything for them. Yes, they allowed people to keep their accounts, but they never said they would also make events for them.[/quote]

I'm totally aware of that, but since they started playing a long time ago, and way before these new versions of MS appeared, they have the same right as you to complain and to play the game. If you were in their situation, you would feel the same way.
Plus, to countries like Peru or Argentina, with no own version, were should they go? TO GMS. In Peru, I can still create as many accounts as I wish, so it's not only NA and Oceania.

Reply July 26, 2012
Deadling

So dumb, and I'm not reading the whole post here. (meaning replies) So don't act like I did, or should read all of this.

But yea, Nexon hates you. All of you filthy Europeans, and I guess that means they also hate Aussies too. /sarcasm Puh-Lease. They hate people with jobs who work all day too, not just foreigners. I work from 12pm-8pm, and am not home till around 8:30 or so. So I don't get to take part in this, unless it runs on the weekends too, same went for pzak.

And every once and a blue moon, they do hold midnight exp events for Aussies. Considering Aussies are really into online games from my exp. (in the middle of the night for us Americans anyways, lol.) Though I kind of wish they would have more events for Aussies actually. Because if they did, then I would be able to take part in events myself. I'm a night owl, and am usually up till about 2-3am during the week, because I don't start work till noon.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
ShadowBo0m

[quote=snowboy8]@Doomfinger: you miss the point. They have made a server for you. They do not need to cater to your needs on GMS as they have made EMS for you. That would be like me playing KMS and complaining there timed events are at a bad time for me >.< If you dont like your server thats fine, but dont play GMS and then complain to us. GMS is not made for Europe.[/quote]

Yeah, you're totally right. GLOBAL MS is NOT made for a part of the world.
If you lived in Mexico, and they created Mexico MS, would you move there? NO, because you have spend your time and money in this game, and apparently reached lv 200. You can't force someone to leave MS. You can block their country so they can't create more acc, but you can't make them leave there. Again, it's Global Maple Story, not USA Maple Story.

EDIT:
@maplefreak26:
The Europeans that still play GMS are because they were playing probably way before you. They have the same right to complain as you.
And explain to me how something called GLOBAL isn't meant for the whole GLOBE? EMS came way after GMS was created, and you can't force someone who has spend money and effort in this game, to just leave and start from scratch in another game, or version of it.
I'll use the same example: If you lived in Mexico, and they created Mexico MS, would you move there? NO, because you have spend your time and money in this game.
Europeans won't leave because of you, "and you can't do anything about it".

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Suryoyo

why doesn't nexon make honor exp obtainable during the whole day, everybody happy then
or they will make a cash item that makes you obtain it during the day

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
JokerXD7

Nexon's HQ is in the west coast. Deal With it.n

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Shatterss

Well, truthfully... America is very self-centered and have lots of misplaced patriotism.
That's why "Global" actually just means "America" because America thinks they're on top of the world... or in this instance, the globe lol

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
TeamAaron

A game with capable programmers would be able to setup a system where you register as a specific timezone or country and then activate these events for each timezone/country at different times. Keyword there is capable

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
JacobsLegend

Well Nexon doesn't really like me.... I'm EST and guess what I don't play maple at 5PM </3 I rather go out and party or chill with my friends then do Azwan....

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Oshawott

@imawildtiger: I'm very much aware of this, being european. But eh, You can't expect someone to just leave for EMS because it might be more convenient. People could have friends and/or established main characters.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
maplefreak26

In Nexon [b]North America[/b]'s eyes, Europeans don't exist. It doesn't matter if you started playing in '05 or today, Nexon NA doesn't care for you. They didn't ban your IP if your account was created before '07 because they didn't want you to lose your progress.
Unless EMS shuts down, you don't have the right to complain to Nexon NA. They will cater most of their events and times in the North American region (this is where Australians should start complaining) and you can't really do anything about it.
And note, GMS was never meant to be literally effing Global. It's meant for everywhere where there is not a localized MapleStory (Brazil, Australia, etc)

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
doc

[quote=Doomfinger]FYI too, EMS sucks[/quote]

Well GMS sucks too, for you Europeans. So stop playing maple.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
mordi

Then move to EMS. We're bettuurrrr C:

who wants 50% off on cubezzz?

Oh and btw; GMS economy is much worse than EMS economy atm. The only problem we have atm is the pricy white scrolls.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Oshawott

As a fellow European, I feel you but still you have to learn to live with it. Yes we have EMS, but it's horribly behind GMS, the community is nice but meh the economy is sooo screwed up. I'd rather put up with this then play EMS.

@imawildtiger: Old accounts are exempt from that rule, Therefore older generation Europeans have as much right to play as you.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
lilazninja

Dont you guys have ems...

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Doomfinger

[quote=Gornoux]Well, you guys have eMS....

Which caters to your timezone...[/quote]

FYI too, EMS sucks

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
NightCodex

I'm European too and I tihink you jsut have tpo accept it. I mean, if they change the time to like, 9 am - 3 pm, then it would be god for europeans and North American people, but it would be bad for other parts of the world. You just have to accept it becasue certain parts of the world will ALWAYS be affected negatively. Also, we have EMS for that stop complaining

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
triiggerhappy

[quote=Vladzy]What's the reason anyway, so people can't grind to level 70 too quickly? They're just delaying the inevitable. And they imposed a limit on coins anyway.[/quote]

Getting to lvl 70 is going to be extremely hard to do anyway. It starts to get slow around lvl 15 and you will need to do constant runs and fast ones to get good exp. Also note that post-nerf azwan(The DB revamp and Hilla expidition) you will only be able to do it 5 x a day and the exp is nerf. So I advise everyone take advantage of pre-nerf Azwan before it gets even more pointless to do. Personally, I think it should be all day since the coin cap is at 150 already and getting to lvl 70 is going to still take a very long time.

Edit: To the people saying about the times in GMS. They only did that bc they were lazy and just wanted to copy/paste it. They could have changed it like they did with pvp but chose not to.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Doomfinger

[quote=bubblecup118]What holiday? School has started. They only get a 2 weeks or 3 weeks break. Remember it's winter here not summer.[/quote]
I didn't mean that there's a holiday now but when there is they can play like all day long :F

@snowboy8 McDonalds makes hamburgers. The restaurant next door makes bad tasting hamburgers while the one in the city makes the world's best hamburgers. When you get home from school you have 10 minutes before the restaurants close. And it takes 20 minutes to the city. You want to eat the hamburgers in the city but you rarely get there because of school (see, EMS-GMS reference)

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
thedicer

They should just make Honor xp gainable all day... No point of making it a set time.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
bubblecup118

[quote=Doomfinger]I'd rather have that since even though I'm not always working I don't like to stay up late. But that time sucks for students. Yet they have their holidays so it's not that bad should you grind then[/quote]

What holiday? School has started. They only get a 2 weeks or 3 weeks break. Remember it's winter here not summer.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Doomfinger

[quote=Vladzy]For Australians it's like 7am-1pm. Unless you're unemployed or work/study part-time it's difficult getting any time into it. I will admit the European time is even less convenient.[/quote]

I'd rather have that since even though I'm not always working I don't like to stay up late. But that time sucks for students. Yet they have their holidays so it's not that bad should you grind then

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
bubblecup118

Same can be said to Australia etc. anyway you have your own local version which you can play.

Yea the honour exp times are rubbish.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Doomfinger

[quote=snowboy8]Its not like they have a European version of Maple-- Oh wait, they do. Just stop the rants about it, yeas, many of us are mad about it. I live in America but i can't play during the honor exp times because i have a job.[/quote]

I've played EMS and I didn't like it. Premium dungeons ruined the game (legit GM 100% scrolls) and they just keep holding these events. And of course they need NX so EMS is even more dependant on NX than GMS if you want to have even average damage

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Riisukun

Well Nexon, is a business and it must tend to its biggest consumers, yeah the pre 2007 europeans who started with GMS still spend money. I do get annoyed when 2x and other events are tended to the Amercians, but at the same time I understand. Still its a tad bit annoying calling it GMS when infact its more suited to Amercia. But there we go I guess. Fortunatly, Honor exp for me is 10-4am so its not so bad I go to sleep at 12ish. Again annoying when you can't make most of 2x events. Some get it better than others I'm afraid and thats how it will always be.

Also, assuming Maple Europe becomes another BrazilMS then atleast there is some hopes that the EU block will be taken out of place.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Doomfinger

[quote=MadC0wDi53aS3]Do you have any other proof...? The fact that Nexon is trying to make it convenient for U.S. players doesn't mean they hate European players... They just appeal to a larger audience at those times.[/quote]

They might lose a lot of potential customers for not holding any events that us Europeans can participate in (at reasonable times)

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Doomfinger

[quote=DwerG]Hmm, fair enough, I just remembered a lot of Australians complaining about it. I won't try and pretend I remember what time it is for you guys specifically B)

@Doomfinger That's just the way it goes though, I'm sure it's like it with any game. They can hardly concentrate the times for an area that doesn't have as many players, and risk alienating the majority of their fanbase.[/quote]

GMS came way before EMS and a lot of Europeans who started then are still playing. They should have like 2 hours of 2x exp every now and then for Europeans and another 2x exp for Aussies/Asians

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Leustean

[quote=Aflac]Yeah man Nexon hates Europe so much they tried to segregate them by making them sit in the European MS section. [b]G[/b]lobal[b]M[/b]aple[b]S[/b]tory power![/quote]

same issue here, same time zone....guess i play for honor in week-end more than during week days

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
DwerG

[quote=xShaunyx]Nah not really, it's just that people in grade school (the majority) have it rough given they have to go to school early.
Uni/working life is pretty fine with the Azwan times

Also I figure it would be a given that GMS doesn't focus on the Euro population give they have their own branch.[/quote]

Hmm, fair enough, I just remembered a lot of Australians complaining about it. I won't try and pretend I remember what time it is for you guys specifically B)

@Doomfinger That's just the way it goes though, I'm sure it's like it with any game. They can hardly concentrate the times for an area that doesn't have as many players, and risk alienating the majority of their fanbase.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
Doomfinger

[quote=DwerG]It's bad for everyone really. Americans are probably missing quite a few hours from being at school, doing homework and eating etc. For Europeans it's late, and for Australians it just seems kind of impossible.

No offence, but coming from another European, you're just going to have to get used to it.[/quote]

I've been putting up with this poop for quote a long but this was sorta the last nail in my coffin (though I didn't quit)

EDIT: Also I've played EMS it's economy is even worse than that of GMS's

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
DwerG

It's bad for everyone really. Americans are probably missing quite a few hours from being at school, doing homework and eating etc. For Europeans it's late, and for Australians it just seems kind of impossible.

No offence, but coming from another European, you're just going to have to get used to it.

Reply July 26, 2012 - edited
onigiri123

Think of the other countries as well.

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