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What is the best possible dojo time?

My best has been 5:22 as a nightlord but today someone got 5:16.
Felt a bit of hope when I saw that, however a small part of me just thinks he's using 3rd party programs.
Anyone gotten below 5:20 yet in gms legitimately?

Edit: I meant to ask about nightlord dojo scores only, which is why it's in the NL section o.o

February 7, 2014

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CherryTigers

[quote=lycanthropod]It's same dojo, same damage. It's possible to achieve that time in GMS.[/quote]

Incorrect. Notice the familiar. Have you ever seen a familiar hit that high in GMS?
That familiar easily kills the monster by hitting 30m per line. Also, with KMS's portal no delay that GMS does not have, we cannot transverse portals as quickly, hence the 15 seconds that were shaved off.
Also, KMS is able to enter the portals so quickly sometimes, the 30m that the familiar hits doesn't even show up because they've already left the room (in earlier dojo stages)

KMS without familiar 5:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9SIHTfba3U

You cannot compare KMS with GMS because it has too many differences.

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TripleBladez

[quote=EatNow]Any ideas on why the potion doesn't affect my kaiser at all?[/quote]

I believe Nexon intentionally changed it so Attack Speed increases aren't applied when Kaisers are in their transformed state. If you're noticing this while untransformed, then it's likely a bug if you're not seeing any increase.

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EatNow

[quote=TripleBladez]Nah, they do. @OmgItsMazz up there has a video of him on his DB with Extreme Green Potion, AYA, and SI. [url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=67995&page=2]His SP post about it.[/url]

PB has a delay of 810 ms at normal (6), which equates to 630 ms at faster (2) with Katara Booster. With an Extreme Green Potion (-1), AYA (-1 before BaM revamp), and SI (-2), he'd be at faster (-2). PB's delay at faster (-2) is 420 ms. 0.42 seconds * 10 attacks = 4.2 seconds, which is in line with his timestamp of 4.18 seconds.[/quote]

Any ideas on why the potion doesn't affect my kaiser at all?

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TripleBladez

[quote=EatNow]I believe weapon speeds do not go under 0 even with an extreme green potion.
My kaiser hits the speed of 0 on its own without the help of an extreme green, but when I decided to use one, it had absolutely no effect @_@[/quote]

Nah, they do. @OmgItsMazz up there has a video of him on his DB with Extreme Green Potion, AYA, and SI. [url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=67995&page=2]His SP post about it.[/url]

PB has a delay of 810 ms at normal (6), which equates to 630 ms at faster (2) with Katara Booster. With an Extreme Green Potion (-1), AYA (-1 before BaM revamp), and SI (-2), he'd be at faster (-2). PB's delay at faster (-2) is 420 ms. 0.42 seconds * 10 attacks = 4.2 seconds, which is in line with his timestamp of 4.18 seconds.

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EatNow

[quote=TripleBladez]Not really unless the guy has an Attack Speed +1 Inner Ability, lol. Like some others have said, you have to get lucky with the bosses spawning near the portal, or else you lose precious seconds.[/quote]

I believe weapon speeds do not go under 0 even with an extreme green potion.
My kaiser hits the speed of 0 on its own without the help of an extreme green, but when I decided to use one, it had absolutely no effect @_@

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TripleBladez

[quote=EatNow]Yes, Extreme Green+decent speed infusion+cap on QT/Death star/NL marks. Did I miss anything? o.o
That's why I figured it was up to my technique or internet connection after reading the comments on the thread xD
No videos of mindblowing dojo times of GMS NLs on youtube though.. unless someone can link me one :O[/quote]

Not really unless the guy has an Attack Speed +1 Inner Ability, lol. Like some others have said, you have to get lucky with the bosses spawning near the portal, or else you lose precious seconds.

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Brawlrulez

it okay to lose by a couple of second

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EatNow

[quote=TripleBladez]Are you using an Extreme Green Potion? If not, that could be one difference between you and the other person since it breaks the speed cap, and allows you to hit faster (1), and if you have any other Attack Speed increases, it'll keep stacking on after the Extreme Green Potion to make you attack extremely fast.[/quote]

Yes, Extreme Green+decent speed infusion+cap on QT/Death star/NL marks. Did I miss anything? o.o
That's why I figured it was up to my technique or internet connection after reading the comments on the thread xD
No videos of mindblowing dojo times of GMS NLs on youtube though.. unless someone can link me one :O

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OmgItsMazz

5:0x should be possible assuming perfect spawns and almost perfect connection, 5:1x is more 'realistic' though (still insane, but not impossible). Fastest NL time I've seen was 5:17 I think.

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TripleBladez

Are you using an Extreme Green Potion? If not, that could be one difference between you and the other person since it breaks the speed cap, and allows you to hit faster (1), and if you have any other Attack Speed increases, it'll keep stacking on after the Extreme Green Potion to make you attack extremely fast.

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EatNow

[quote=lycanthropod]It's same dojo, same damage. It's possible to achieve that time in GMS.[/quote]

Koreans have arguably one of the best internet structures in the world which is why they have close to zero delay when going through portals.
IIRC their internet is approx. 100 times faster than my personal internet and many times faster than the best internet available in the United States (don't quote me on that though).
You must live pretty close to Nexon's servers then? Unless I'm doing something wrong in dojo..
I cap on my QTs and NL marks + cap weapon speed so it must either be my technique or internet connection.

Reply February 7, 2014 - edited
Monopolising

A friend of mine in bera got 4:5X. He's a phantom

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Regatzopunk

@darksin1204: When I say where the boss spawns I mean on what part of the map, cause the people that try to get best dojo time always try to be on the portal so if the boss spawns further from the portal you lose seconds.

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shalazaar

Well yesterday an IGN Biscuit got 4:22 in dojo scania, thats the lowest time I've ever seen! It doesnt seem possible lol obviously using hax but even so! Not sure what class he was either?

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darksin1204

[quote=Regatzopunk]Well as a nightlord maybe not since iirc they don't have as much dps as phantoms or kaisers, but it is also luck on where the boss spawns, so it is most likely achievable[/quote]

not really, they changed the boss spawn so that its pretty much always the same time after you go in. But yea, phantoms hit faster than NLs so a capping phantom > capping NL

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Regatzopunk

Well as a nightlord maybe not since iirc they don't have as much dps as phantoms or kaisers, but it is also luck on where the boss spawns, so it is most likely achievable

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joe7890

Phantom in Bera has recorded 4:55

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LuizEvilx

I think a phantom hitting cap would close in to 5 minutes flat

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