Cannon Shooter Class? Whats your opinion
So i just saw that theres a new class out in KMS called the Cannon Shooter, who use hand cannons.
Whats your opinion on this?
http://spadow.wordpress.com/2011/06/02/kmst-v384-new-adventurer-pirate-cannon-shooter/
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June 2, 2011
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Yeah and I noticed something else, If you look at the designs of the two pirates nexon had when they first came out, the girl and a guy pirate, you can see something that looks like a cannon on his back
funny how the class has a item named after it and they can't even equip it
...Am I the only one who liked the songs playing in the background?
OT: I like it~ Finally, a class that can tote around a rocket launcher... but... it's way too close to two of the Pirates we already have, and don't get me started on the fricken Flyin'-Whale-Battleship-open-fire-missile-rain Skill... I'm still making one, of course lol.
Instead of making a copycat class, they could have spent the time doing something productive... like rebalancing pirates or thieves. -_-"
[quote=origami904]Oh SURE, make ANOTHER ranged shooting pirate with lasers. Because that makes WAY more sense than making a pirate that actually uses a CUTLASS and ocean/water based skills[/quote]
IKR?^^^^^^^
OK, i swear. I HONESTLY hate this, cause 2 years ago, there were cygnuses, arans, and adventurers. those were the good ol' days. NOW, nexon comes out with a new class like EVERY 3 MONTHS. its starting to get annoying getting ksed by a new class, then they get nerfed. then a new OP class comes. then they get nerfed. then e new class comes. then they get nerfed. ETC. I swear, nexon should get the players' opinions on the classes before they release a new class that will hack, be OP, piss the people that like ORIGINAL STUFF off, and just be plain jerks.
dammit every class nexon creates gets worse and worse. gotta hand it to nexon, bandwagon king
[quote=phantom4139]Buccaneers will be <3 forever by true buccaneers [/quote]
<33
True buccaneers. No other pirate class or ua bucc is the same
OT: No sword pirate class? o.o?
It's like a mech without the ugly toaster, and that's good because i don't like ugly toasters. Most of the mechs are like mech skills, but 3rd job seems a lot more interesting than 4th job skills.
weak sauce ;-;. Its boring, just a mech remake, luckily its not super OP(I haven't looked too much into it though, so it could be), but nothing original.
Looks boring to me.
terrible class...nexon...some original idea's plz?
some thing like combo system for aran or...wh or BaM?
but not a dude who copy like exam same skill from existing jobs?
I'm sort of sad that this new guy got physical training before the other adventurer pirates.
It honestly looks like a very interesting class. Ranged, but focuses more on slow, powerful shots than rapid-fire.
Also, to all the people whining about a new class, just shut up and get over it. More classes means more variety. You don't have to make a Cannoneer if you don't want to. Just play your old classes and grow up.
[quote=RockCaandy]They're OP
1.) With the laser in the beginning hits twice.
2.) They have a knock back
3.) They don't need to be on Battleship the whole time to do decent damage.
4.) They're probably OP the whole way through. He didn't have any good equips and he was doing 25k x 2[/quote]
Doesn't mech's laser hit 3times?
How does being able to rush make it overpowered? They seem more of a mobbing class. Would make sense to give them that
They don't even have a mount like sairs/mechs to begin with? O.o
Class just came out, no release date for the real server or anything yet. They can still change things and probably will.
Kinda meh. I don't really care at all, kind of like DBs and Evans.
[quote=RockCaandy]They're OP
1.) With the laser in the beginning hits twice.
2.) They have a knock back
3.) They don't need to be on Battleship the whole time to do decent damage.
4.) They're probably OP the whole way through. He didn't have any good equips and he was doing 25k x 2[/quote]
And then you realize all their skills and weapon speed is extremely slow and they have weaker 1v1.
They're OP
1.) With the laser in the beginning hits twice.
2.) They have a knock back
3.) They don't need to be on Battleship the whole time to do decent damage.
4.) They're probably OP the whole way through. He didn't have any good equips and he was doing 25k x 2
It's a mech and corsair combined.
I would preferr the Hero's to come out first
[quote=epgx]No. Just no.
I get that Nexon is running out of ideas, but STILL - This is absurd. WE have Sairs, Mech's, and now CANNON SHOOTERS. Mech already went far enough, but now this is just retarded. The same thing has gone for MANY other classes, such as DB and Shad's (They stole several Night Lord skills, although it would be fine JUST with shad's, not DB's), then might as well throw Evan, Aran, and Battle Mage as well in there.
Truthfully, I propose that we get Nexon to find out OUR ideas on new classes before they make something stupid like this, so at least we have some decent variety in classes. Even IF they don't listen to us. Which they won't. 'Cause they're Nexon and what-not.[/quote]
"Variety"? These guys have been in the business, have been through much more than our life span. There are most likely 20 ~ 30 people who think of the classes and which skills they should use.
What more do you want from a 2D platform game?
[quote=dragonflie]Well, at least they won't raise the gun prices for sairs. Hopefully they use ammunition.[/quote]
They don't.
[quote=Thiele]My opinion is that we shouldn't be worrying about this [b]yet[/b]. Geez.-[/quote]
This is so true. We hardly have Chaos. We shouldn't even be worried about jump. Come on people, keep your pants on.
[quote=codyu]Why did they have to make a CANNON shooter...? @_@ Why not something else like a melee AND ranged class... although this would be extremely cheap and stupid, Nexon should at least come up with original ideas.[/quote]
Because Mechs are already melee and ranged, especially early on. Hell, even Buccaneers are a mix of melee and mid-range.
[quote=ilovetigrex]People are stupid
They say it's like a mech when it only has [b]1[/b] skill that mech's have
OT: Seems pretty cool[/quote]
We have a winner! Totally agree with this comment. I really like the fact that it actually does look different, and feels different, without me even playing it yet. I get the fact it has similar purposes to all class branches, but some people complain if they dont get that "fj" or that "rush." If you are gonna whine for it, don't whine about it IMO. (This message does not pertain to all/most people, but quite a few I have actually met/know irl).
[quote=Abysseon]Its a pirate that just walks around with a laser cannon...
Nexon has missed the mark with this one.[/quote]
This. And what everyone else is saying: Looks like a Corsair + Mech. >.>
@vengfulboi: Yea that will be fun...
[quote=abundance269]@vengfulboi: Then people need to be more optimistic and less whiny.[/quote]
Just wait till jump. "AWH wth!@@ drks hit 5 times? mages actually have dps now? bowman hav a puppet that attacks and get hawk at 2nd?"
@vengfulboi: Then people need to be more optimistic and less whiny.
First thing that came to mind: Karok from Vindictus.
[quote=abundance269]@vengfulboi: Still, "just because of mechanics" is not a viable reason that people should complain. They may deal big damage in the video, but I think the slow speed slightly restricts it from going totally overboard, a tad like Evans. That being said, I see no justification in saying that all pirates are OP and that people should complain about canon shooters.[/quote]
Exactly, because of Mechanics people don't want more pirate jobs even though with this new job we'll have the same number of classes as warriors, mages, and thieves. Adventurer-wise anyway.
[quote=DitAndy]
EDIT: I see it says # Hit now, but what is the bar filling up for?[/quote]
IDK. All I know it has nothing to do with Cannon Shooters. It's a separate thing altogether.
@vengfulboi: Still, "just because of mechanics" is not a viable reason that people should complain. They may deal big damage in the video, but I think the slow speed slightly restricts it from going totally overboard, a tad like Evans. That being said, I see no justification in saying that all pirates are OP and that people should complain about canon shooters.
Well, it does have that "Pirate Vibe", but I can't help but think that the time spent making that class could have been used revamping the Pirate classes we already have. Either way, I like it ^^ I definitely wanna make one XD
@Ditandy: That is part of the Saint Saver event. Apparently, players have to eliminate 500 monsters in their level range to charge up the power of a stone in order to activate some type of buff. It's in Spadow's Blog, but I only skimmed that entry, so I wouldn't really know...
we r all gonna die. ks wars TO. THE. EXTREEEMMMEMEEEEEEE YEAAAA~
[quote=abundance269]I like how people are complaining, [b]"Not another pirate class,"[/b] when there are literally a dozen mage classes, and I don't see too many people complaining.[/quote]
Mages =/= OP
Pirates=OP (only because of Mechs)
[quote=DitAndy]I wanna know why it has combos...[/quote]
Because it doesn't. Ugh.
I like how people are complaining, [b]"Not another pirate class,"[/b] when there are literally a dozen mage classes, and I don't see too many people complaining.
[quote=potspans123]mech and sairs had a kid[/quote]
Actually i think they are supposed to be based on brawlers
Why did Nexon even bother? There's hundreds of other more unique possibilities out there and they chose THIS? Not making one unless it has a unique backstory quest chain, in which case, I'll make it as a mule.
@Samplekitty:
Yea he is talking about the similarities, but these new classes have new animations which gives the affect of the copied skill a better look. They also switch up the gameplay a bit. As for giving nexon our ideas which he mentioned, the community will still react badly. They always will. "Looks OP" "Looks boring" "Looks stupid" "Fix the old classes omg no new classes"
He's a hermit they throw stars from 1st job to 4th job and looks almost no different except the amount of numbers and stars you see thrown. Now if you made a new class that also threw stars or something similar but gave the animation of this new class a fresh new look I'd most likely jump on with the new class simply because it looks different and cooler.
[quote=ImTaiwan]I think it's an interesting addition to the pirate branch. Was expecting some sort of gambling (yes!) and swords (didn't happen). I don't like how Maplestory's arsenal of weapons and skills are becoming more and more futuristic. Expect some sort of Cyber-Knight in the near future that uses data-like abilities. :.
However, I'm a a bit excited for this class. They seem to shine the most during 3rd job.[/quote]
Cannon Shooters have 3 luck based skills already, so they are somewhat gamblers, at least slightly more than other pirates
Saw it coming.
[quote=adalzon]@vengfulboi: yeah but though technically DBs I think nexon classifies as heroes so teh cannon shooters might be considered as a hero[/quote]
No, they don't. Arans have different medals and Evans have different medals. DBs get the same medals as all the other adventurers. Therefore they are an adventurer. Also if you look at Spadow's website the character creation screen has the Cannon shooters under adventurer. There are only 2 heroes. Aran and Evan. DBs and Cannon Shooters are adventurers.
Stupid as hell. It's basically a mech with FJ
I'd rather this over Mechanic anyday.
ima make one just because its a pirate ;D
[quote=epgx]No. Just no.
I get that Nexon is running out of ideas, but STILL - This is absurd. WE have Sairs, Mech's, and now CANNON SHOOTERS. Mech already went far enough, but now this is just retarded. The same thing has gone for MANY other classes, such as DB and Shad's (They stole several Night Lord skills, although it would be fine JUST with shad's, not DB's), then might as well throw Evan, Aran, and Battle Mage as well in there.
Truthfully, I propose that we get Nexon to find out OUR ideas on new classes before they make something stupid like this, so at least we have some decent variety in classes. Even IF they don't listen to us. Which they won't. 'Cause they're Nexon and what-not.[/quote]
What if having a cannon was my idea?
OT: I actually like this class for once. It's not really OP'ed at all, just decent at mobbing. Definitely not the kind of class to replace attackers on a boss run though.
Now I'm wondering what Nexon will do for the third Archer adventurer, since it's pretty much already been determined that the Legend will have Dual bows.
Seems interesting. Be able to play what a sair/mech could of been if they didn't get mounts in my opinion. They are good at mobbing, but kind of fall short on 1vs1 so it has balance. They aren't replacing sairs, mechs, or buccs. They have a new weapon so weapon prices of knuckle/gun won't be effected, and there will be more %str pirate stuff so more chance for buccs getting good gear. They have similarities like all classes do at this point, but animation and stuff make it unique.
Plus, pirate monkeys man. Gatta love those
Hoping that with the new guy coming, there will be a pirate a revamp. >.<
Question to everyone reading this O.o; Did anyone actually see this coming? Because I was totally expecting the archer hero was the one to come out after the archer part of jump
Yeah, i don't get why some people are really against it. If you don't like the class then stick with yours. I like these new classes because it gives me a sense of change and something fun to do if I ever get bored of a certain playing style. And the cannon looks pretty cool on a character.
@vengfulboi: yeah but though technically DBs I think nexon classifies as heroes so teh cannon shooters might be considered as a hero