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[quote=rachelll]Hats (up to 5 seconds total)[/quote]

So do you think it will be possible to do so? It would make capping really easy

[quote=twopointonefour]I don't know thats a good question. I'll try to test it if I can. What items carry that potential line?[/quote]

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[quote=xus3rnam3]Guys would it be possible to get a -1 sec cooldown potential to make the CD of armor break 0sec? If that could be done then game over.[/quote]

I don't know thats a good question. I'll try to test it if I can. What items carry that potential line?

Guys would it be possible to get a -1 sec cooldown potential to make the CD of armor break 0sec? If that could be done then game over.

[quote=bluebomber24]@ProHealer: One attack does not mean one hit. That is also Max's description and not the skill description or extraction data. Armor Break generally effects around 4 of Hurricane's hits; at least visually when I was active.

What I need is a KMS video. One of of Arrow Stream and one of Hurricane. Arrow Stream is because if Break activates 50% of the time the "reactivation cooldown" is a true cooldown. If Break activates 100% of the time, "reactivation cooldown" is not a true cooldown and is more akin to an anti-bot. Hurricane is because too many unknowns.[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBB8jLVcJGc
Let me know if you need something else

@ProHealer: One attack does not mean one hit. That is also Max's description and not the skill description or extraction data. Armor Break generally effects around 4 of Hurricane's hits; at least visually when I was active.

What I need is a KMS video. One of of Arrow Stream and one of Hurricane. Arrow Stream is because if Break activates 50% of the time the "reactivation cooldown" is a true cooldown. If Break activates 100% of the time, "reactivation cooldown" is not a true cooldown and is more akin to an anti-bot. Hurricane is because too many unknowns.

[quote=bluebomber24]@Rachelll: how do you know it affects only one hit.[/quote]

activation rate and stacking system have been removed, this skill now has a 100% activation rate but has a reactivation cooldown of 1 second (hard to explain but basically, it will let you ignore defense and deal extra damage based on the enemy's defense rate on one attack then go on cooldown for 1 second)

[quote=nanabanana]Yay, but wait, does it mean we have to use arrows now?[/quote]

No you still have soul arrow.

Yay, but wait, does it mean we have to use arrows now?

@Rachelll: how do you know it affects only one hit.

It seems that kms bm's AFA is glitched (kms 1.2.238).

[url=http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=talkmaple_job&category=311&divpage=76&no=375324]mercedes vs bm comparison (not split hurricane)[/url]
[url=http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=talkmaple_job&category=311&divpage=76&no=375336]another bm battle statistics[/url]
[url=http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=talkmaple_job&category=311&divpage=76&no=375436]another bm battle statistics[/url]

Judging from those 3 statistics, AFA proc rate is ~50% (instead of 70%).
I wonder if this is happening to gms as well right now. Hopefully gms would implement this battle statistics feature soon .

[quote=bluebomber24]Armor Breaks changes are most likely a buff or a "no change" whether its currently bugged or not.

An unbugged Armor Break activates at a 25-27% rate.
The new Armor Break is most likely a number around 24-50%, with the 50% being more probable.

Hard to say for sure because there are some questions about Armor Break that remain unanswered.

Range is not the best way to judge wheter a class got buffed or not...but yes BMs are for the most part Buffed.[/quote]

Armor break activates once a second so it activates 1/(total h/s) of the time which is around 3% of the time compared to the 27% rate that is expected with our current GMS skill description. Obviously, with the "glitch"/limitation in place, our current armor break activates far less than 27% of the time using hurricane.

It's probably worth noting that we might be "buffed" from the fixes to AFA (if there was any issue w/ our hurricane AFA at all)

this week is a wonderful week.

Bowmasters got pretty good buffs and skill fixes that they needed and my Lakers got D'Angelo Russell. now lets hope we make a big splash in free agency. <3 <3

[quote=AeroReborn]While i do not know the exact numbers/calculations, i'm going to speculate that bowmasters got most of these buffs to make up for the cooldown on Armor piercing. Armor piercing is different per boss, but its quite some damage loss against some of the higher end bosses with a 1 second cooldown. If you just look at BMs damage range, then this seems like a buff.

I guess we'll have to wait for the calcs and whatnot to see how significant these changes actually are. At least they decided to remove the cooldown on turret (thank god).[/quote]

Armor Breaks changes are most likely a buff or a "no change" whether its currently bugged or not.

An unbugged Armor Break activates at a 25-27% rate.
The new Armor Break is most likely a number around 24-50%, with the 50% being more probable.

Hard to say for sure because there are some questions about Armor Break that remain unanswered.

Range is not the best way to judge wheter a class got buffed or not...but yes BMs are for the most part Buffed.

[quote=AeroReborn]what were the activation problems with it? I remember Armor Piercing proccing a couple of times within a second for me. Although, I havent played my bm much recently.[/quote]

Well apparently it has a 2000 second cooldown between triggers, but it behaves oddly with hurricane and all it's supplementary skills. I speculate that the change to armor break is very significant. Besides all that they did buff bowmaster mobbing a fair bit, poison arrows deal 220% damage now, quiver has no delay and arrow stream now hits 5 times (6 with hyper). I think the greatest loss we have is the AFA from turret.

I accept these changes cause it lets me train the same way and gollux the same way.

@AssMuppet what were the activation problems with it? I remember Armor Piercing proccing a couple of times within a second for me. Although, I havent played my bm much recently.

[quote=LightZero]Where's that guy that made a poll on arrow blaster? Turret is safe again guys. Liking this patch, more motivation to play my bm haha.[/quote]

That was me. I was so excited about the removal of the cd when I read about it earlier this week. Initially I predicted this would happen, but I lost faith when they still had it in the 3rd tweak update notes. I considered making a new post, but I figured most people saw it in the general posts. Now if they could just rush this update to GMS instead of making us wait half a year haha.

@AeroReborn Considering the activation problems with armor piercing it's probably better than it was before.

While i do not know the exact numbers/calculations, i'm going to speculate that bowmasters got most of these buffs to make up for the cooldown on Armor piercing. Armor piercing is different per boss, but its quite some damage loss against some of the higher end bosses with a 1 second cooldown. If you just look at BMs damage range, then this seems like a buff.

I guess we'll have to wait for the calcs and whatnot to see how significant these changes actually are. At least they decided to remove the cooldown on turret (thank god).

Where's that guy that made a poll on arrow blaster? Turret is safe again guys. Liking this patch, more motivation to play my bm haha.