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Why is my lv 37 F/p hitting so low? What am I doing wrong?

So I'm using poison breath & fire arrow, but they never reach over 800 dmg. Not even 1k? What the hell is this. Well 1st of all my base luk is 40. (base int 160)But I don't think that's why my damage is so low like that. My i/l base luk is 38, and at level 37 she was doing about 1.2k. Why is there such a difference? I'm using a King Pepe Petal Staff m.attack 55. It's pretty good for a lv 37 to be using, no? I have no idea what I'm doing wrong & I need help getting my damage up. I thought F/Ps were stronger than I/Ls? Well for me they sure aren't. My range 407 ~ 558 . Again why is it so low, or unless this is the average? Please help me.

Edit: I'm not complaining, if you think I'm complaining we have different ideas on how complaining works. I would of said this class is terrible, I'll quit it, etc etc. But I didn't. I was asking if I did something wrong for my DMG to be so low when my I/L at that level was hitting higher and I heard F/Ps were stronger & I was asking for help. Anyways I got my character to level from level 37 to 57 earlier today ...

November 24, 2012

35 Comments • Newest first

Ecyz

[quote=ksl210]F/P mages, from what I understand, are pretty weak.[/quote]
Please be kidding
You're kidding
I'm certain you're kidding
Please just tell me you're kidding

Brushing the dmg-cap x8 or however the hell many hits ME has with only 35% int must be pretty weak

Reply November 29, 2012 - edited
joyj830921

[quote=Elleee]@Zenarkenstin Uhh, this seems somewhat confusing. What level does a character need to be to join a deck?[/quote]

I think it's level 30, and then after that the higher the level of the character the better the effect.

And yea, like @Ouhai said, second and third jobs are tough, but in 4th job it gets so much better.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
taotapp

Because it's level 37. Just keep going; it gets better.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
wizardq

We are very strong unfunded, but that happens at 4th job lol

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Ouhai

I like how everyone being overall unhelpful aren't even f/p mages.

F/P mages have always been notoriously difficult/very boring to raise from 2nd and most of 3rd job (which is one of the main contributing reasons why there aren't that many f/p mages around in general) Especially for 2nd job, I/L wizards will always outclass F/P wizards simply because thunderbolt is slightly faster, stronger, and is an AoE attack rather than a linear mobbing attack like poison breath. When it comes to 3rd job, you're on par with I/L mages because of the poison mist and fire demon but suffer from a slow casting Explosion when using a regular staff. I/L still have a slightly easier time in 3rd job though simply because their AoE move Ice Strike is at a fixed speed, allowing it to be used more versatility than a move that is affected by weapon speed (Explosion). Also Ice Strike is pontetially stronger than explosion because of being able to hit more times and each hit having a chance to crit.

Basically, to make it to 4th job as an f/p, you gotta really want it and genuinely be able to have some fun with their underwhemling performance in 2nd and 3rd job.
Think of it as using a Magikarp if you've played Pokemon: It's hard and boring to raise but with enough devotion will turn it into a horrifying monster who can wreck stuff up with raw power.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
ando2112

@Zenarkenstin: Again, Just a jest at the difference between FP and Blaze Wizards...

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Elleee

@Arcana27961: ya I saw that thunder bolt was better than explosion. I maxed out explosion already though .. c:

@maplerescue: Ya that's why I want to reach 3rd job for DoT skills. I don't think I really understand it fully yet .__.' I'll catch on hopefully. I just know you "stack" skills for more damage and you need to set it up.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
maplerescue

F/P's don't seem to be that great before 4th job and if they are, it's in 3rd job when you have most of your DoT skills. My friend about quit hers in 2nd job from how terrible it was. Once you get Mist Erruption in 4th job, you'll be able to see the higher numbers, even with little funding. Just be able to understand DoT (I'm ashamed of how long it took me to understand how to execute it).

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Arcana27961

For some reason, Nexon decided to make Thunderbolt much stronger than Poison Breath at level 1. It evens out when you max the skills.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Elleee

@StrangeFate I already got it to lv 57. So 20 levels from earlier today. I'ma keep playing it lol .. Especially since Tempest is soon >.>

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
StrangeFate

I don't think that a fire poison is for you. You need lots of patience for it. Lots and lots and lots.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Elleee

@Zenarkenstin Uhh, this seems somewhat confusing. What level does a character need to be to join a deck?

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Magne

dont forget ur DoT, try to use it as much as u can and like people saif f/p isnt that strong before 120-130

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
esteban

You shouldn't have added any LUK at all. Not that it matters anyway due to the 29th. You shouldn't really be that damage conscious until fourth job or at least level 100+. By then you should have your core skills maxed and be able to wear actual gear that matters. Until then just enjoy the mage for what it is and does. Never use Fire Arrow its useless all other skills are maxed except Fire Arrow which stays at one SP.

Your main move Poison Breath will appear weaker because it also includes damage called residual damage AKA Damage Over Time. This is a concept you must learn if you ever hope to be even a decent F/P Mage. So even if your initial hits seems weak you're also still doing what a normal character would be, by the poison damage.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Elleee

@MyTiramisu Thanks for an actual answer (and for everyone else who gave me an actual helpful answer as well). People thought since I was wondering why I was so weak I was complaining .__. Well thanks now I know it's (one of?) a weak 2nd job is in Maplestory. >.> But this just encourages me to reach 3rd! c:

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
MyTiramisu

Don't worry about it. I think f/p 2nd job is the weakest 2nd job in maple I believe? Anyhow, your damage will be good in 3rd job and great in 4th. So yeah....you are meant to be weak in 2nd job.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Jazzpah

I think you need more strength.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Green4EVER

[quote=Elleee]So stupid, why did you respond? Oh ya, someone is so mad about an argument from about 3-4 months ago? Good way to hold a grudge. Good for you. You're just bumping the thread so have fun. Last response, I'm not in the mood to argue with people & repeating myself again when they can just read the comments..[/quote]

Not even close but okay, if you say so.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Elleee

@Green4EVER: So stupid, why did you respond? Oh ya, someone is so mad about an argument from about 3-4 months ago? Good way to hold a grudge. Good for you. You're just bumping the thread so have fun. Last response, I'm not in the mood to argue with people & repeating myself again when they can just read the comments.

@ando2112: Well we must have different views of complaining. If I was complaining I would be like "woow this class sucks! im going to quit since its so bad & has craptastic damage! what a waste of time!" But nope I never said. And oh well lol I don't care about 8k dmg ... Edit: Plus if I was complaining too much, why would I ask for help? Wouldn't I deny the help & ignore it?

Edit: And yes I will repeat this one more time. I am maxing my skills. I'm using llmapler's guide as well so I don't mess up. I'm at level 45 I believe? My damage went up to 1.2k-1.9k c: & putting all my AP into Int.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
ando2112

[quote=Elleee]@ando1221: 1. I bet you didn't even read anything I said. I'm not QQing or complaining. I'm wondering how my I/L hit more than my F/P at that level when I heard F/Ps were stronger.
2. Obviously what I'm doing.
3. Not really I don't care. On my i/l I'm doing 54k dmg (lv 105) w/o many funds (will rise after Tempest when I can equip more %int items that I have been scrolling).
& my I/L at lv 50 was hitting about 12k-13k. So idc ... lol. Try again.[/quote]

On the contrary, I've read everything you've said. And you're complaining.
Stop Complaining, Go max your skills.
That last part was more of a jest.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
tecul1

Just ignore everyone, and keep playing.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Elleee

@ando1221: 1. I bet you didn't even read anything I said. I'm not QQing or complaining. I'm wondering how my I/L hit more than my F/P at that level when I heard F/Ps were stronger.
2. Obviously what I'm doing.
3. Not really I don't care. On my i/l I'm doing 54k dmg (lv 105) w/o many funds (will rise after Tempest when I can equip more %int items that I have been scrolling).
& my I/L at lv 50 was hitting about 12k-13k. So idc ... lol. Try again.

@evilslasher: I'm going to stop responding since you're obviously trying to start an argument w/ me on my thread. Bye! Last response.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
ando2112

[quote=Elleee]No I'm not so you sound really stupid. I was asking for help so I can get my DMG up & comparing my dmg w/ my I/L. So shut up moron.

@Expressive: How do I step my game up? ... lol. I'm not really funded since I refuse to buy NX anymore since it's a waste.

@Zenarkenstin: What are characters decks & how do they help? o.o[/quote]

1. You are complaining. You're QQing about damage at level 37.
2. Max your skills.
3. Hitting 8k Per Pillar on my lvl 50 Blaze Wizard, umad?

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Elleee

[quote=evilslasher]You're complaining.[/quote]

No I'm not so you sound really stupid. I was asking for help so I can get my DMG up & comparing my dmg w/ my I/L. So shut up moron.

@Expressive: How do I step my game up? ... lol. I'm not really funded since I refuse to buy NX anymore since it's a waste.

@Zenarkenstin: What are characters decks & how do they help? o.o

@ClockWatch: Reread again please. Those faces aren't when I was asking the question. It was after " I have no idea what I'm doing wrong & I need help getting my damage up." I was not asking a question there. And the "Not even 1k. What the hell is this?" is because I heard F/Ps are stronger than I/Ls but my I/Ls was stronger than that.

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
LaViTa

thats pretty noob damage. at level 37 i was hitting EASILY 801 damage on my i/l. you must be doing something wrong try aiming for about 60% int and a 20% scrolled level 35 petal staff with around 90% boss

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
Dsfan33224

2nd job f/p is hell. which is why i stopped leveling mine at 61 ish until tempest

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
OMGpineapples

At third job, you shall begin to see the true power of the Fire/Poison Mage!

Reply November 25, 2012 - edited
evilslasher

[quote=Elleee]@grawp77 First of all I'm not complaining. I'm just asking why I'm so hitting low at lv 37 when my I/L at that level was hitting higher. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. So stop saying I'm "complaining" when I'm not. If I was I would of already quit this character by now.

@ksl210 I heard F/Ps were pretty good for unfunded. o__o[/quote]

You're complaining.

Reply November 24, 2012 - edited
Elleee

@Viped Okay thanks.

@shadnlxd Okay I will try to get to 70 (or 60, for tempest) and hope that helps. I'm leveling more right now and my range is going up (:

@Momijii I will try. xD My highest lv characters is my 152 Bishop, and 105 I/L.

Reply November 24, 2012 - edited
ClockWatch

[quote=Elleee]@grawp77 First of all I'm not complaining. I'm just asking why I'm so hitting low at lv 37 when my I/L at that level was hitting higher. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. So stop saying I'm "complaining" when I'm not. If I was I would of already quit this character by now.

@ksl210 I heard F/Ps were pretty good for unfunded. o__o[/quote]

"Not even 1k? What the hell is this." <-- you kinda are complaining. Also, those "" faces aren't asking faces, they're qq faces.

OT: Stop qqing about your damage at level 37, you didn't even max your skills yet.

Reply November 24, 2012 - edited
Momijii

Level up to 140 and then you'll be in a better place.

Reply November 24, 2012 - edited
Elleee

@grawp77 First of all I'm not complaining. I'm just asking why I'm so hitting low at lv 37 when my I/L at that level was hitting higher. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. So stop saying I'm "complaining" when I'm not. If I was I would of already quit this character by now.

@ksl210 I heard F/Ps were pretty good for unfunded. o__o

Reply November 24, 2012 - edited
grawp77

if u are complaining at ur damage at level 37
u should just stop there

Reply November 24, 2012 - edited
ksl210

F/P mages, from what I understand, are pretty weak.

Reply November 24, 2012 - edited