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Kaiser or Xenon?

When I started my Kaiser I wanted to fund it in order to boss and fund my other characters that way
I was told that Kaiser was pretty good at bosses
However, its damage is pretty low and I'm not sure if its speed makes up for it.
Would a xenon or Kaiser be better at bossing?

January 15, 2014

11 Comments • Newest first

EvilAnnieXD

[quote=antyclea]I have a kaiser with 1.1mill+ range. I'll be honest with you, if your expecting seeing insanely high numbers....don't.
Kaisers have VERY VERY LOW damage but good speed. People over hype kaisers but none of them actually use one. I have approx. 120b+ worth of gear on my kaiser and on regular monsters on transformation I do 3x12 = 36mill (with all criticals!). On oakum with 260% boss I do about ~6mill per line. But in order to get the most out of kaiser you have to cast dragon + wing beat + gigs wave which is REALLY hard to do most of the time so don't expect godly results unless you have insane funding. Xenon is better way to go because equips are cheaper and easier to cube[/quote]

Yea I've noticed that about Kaisers
Does the speed even it up for the low numbers though?

Reply January 15, 2014
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=calmkaiser]@EvilAnnieXD: So what? It's meant to be used on bosses, our blade burst also gets buffed to 300% or something and the explosion damage gets buffd too[/quote]

I don't know blade burst just seems a bit slow to me Or is it just me

Reply January 15, 2014
calmkaiser

@EvilAnnieXD: So what? It's meant to be used on bosses, our blade burst also gets buffed to 300% or something and the explosion damage gets buffd too

Reply January 15, 2014
DevotedHate

How is transformed less? That doesn't seem right...

Reply January 15, 2014
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=calmkaiser]@EvilAnnieXD: No, its 310% normal and 260% transformed[/quote]

Oh whoops. My bad
The one target gigas though

Reply January 15, 2014
MinishDude

Is it 310% on Gigas? I know Final Form adds 30% damage, but I thought that was to the range, not individual skills (so it'd be 1.3 x 200, or 220 after level 183... so, eventually 286x12 hits or 3432% total when transformed with hyper skills buffs to Gigas Wave)

Reply January 15, 2014
EvilAnnieXD

[quote=calmkaiser]We get buffed dat 310% gigas and 50% damage on transformation[/quote]

Only while transformed though
However, there are some upcoming patches I believe which boost gigas damage even more
I just really dislike how gigas wave only hits one target when not transformed </3

Reply January 15, 2014
Dean985

the best thing about kaiser is you have 2 ways to ignore DR when it comes to bossing. and what above said.

Reply January 15, 2014
calmkaiser

We get buffed dat 310% gigas and 50% damage on transformation

Reply January 15, 2014
DevotedHate

Have both a Kaiser and a Xenon, Xenon's Snipe does more damage than my Kaiser's maxed Gigas Waves...not in transformation doe. Xenons have more mobility and multiple skills in one...did I mention we can fly. My Kaiser's pretty weak, only 80k range at lvl 150...

Reply January 15, 2014