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[quote=lKingAura]Considering a serious amount of funding (cap dmg) bam is one of the best classes due to the amount of lines and their high survivability. Bams >>>
Evans in mobing because BKB is a map destroyer (vertical and horizontally). While the only downside of bams is their low dmg, it can be fixed later on. Now tell me, how can you fix the crap dps on Evans even at cap dmg? Hell... Can they even solo cv? That being said, Evan is better with low funds while bam is better with high funds. Have a nice day TC.[/quote]

Nah evans got bams beat in mobbing. flame wheel, earthquale, blaze? @ RnJ Evans wreck, bams don't do too hot.

I don't see a lot of bams get decent dojo times, if dojo is one of the things on your ''want to do'' list.. I say go w/ Evans. With low fundings, you can solo hard gollux, so why not? You can solo a Strong hold map w/ just flame wheel

i do really like my evan. both classes have poop for teleport though.

[quote=Harmonising]Funding required to cap is well over 10x as much as 150bil, Practically to cap as an evan I'd say around 1500b will get you there if you can find good gear to buy, but there really isn't that much out there. Cubing and scrolling your own stuff though will most likely cost way more.

This means that it is impossible to outdps evans as a Bam until after 1500 dollas have heen invested into your character. Some other people said that Evans are bad bossers... they really aren't. They are the like the 8th or 9th strongest bossing class until they begin capping, and begin to be limited by the number of hit/s they do.[/quote]

Your posts are so helpful! Really helped me decide to stay on my Evan. Thanks! <3

[quote=ho4show]You find they attack faster than Evans? man Evan's hit the speed cap on their own, and have a bunch of real fast attacks to benefit from it.[/quote]

BaM reach speed cap on their own too, even with a slow staff.
we get 7 attack speed from our skill alone, thats more than double than what most classes get.
our main attacking skills are very fast too, 2 FB+BKB combo in a matter of a second and a half.
our other skills like dark shock and dark genesis gets speed up too in the recent KMS update.
tho dark shock will most likely be useless even after that, its a great boost for dark genesis as it cut the skills cast by like 2 seconds, meaning we can use it on bosses and not get slowed down by it to get extra damage.

[quote=riceforme2]I made both but I stopped playing my Evan because I like BaM a lot better. Evan as mentioned is good for attacking mobs but not so much for bossing. You don't need to spend much on a BaM if you are just getting started. Later on you can upgrade to better gear. BaM can both boss and mob and I find they attack faster than an Evan. I know Evan can recover both HP and MP but you have to be in one spot to do so where as BaM already has high hp and a drain skill that is very useful when it comes to bossing.

Now if only they gave BaM more attacking skills. I use only about 3 attacking skills and the rest are a lot of buffs. Also it would be nice if Reaper had a summoning chance with every hit on a boss...[/quote]

You find they attack faster than Evans? man Evan's hit the speed cap on their own, and have a bunch of real fast attacks to benefit from it.

@Harmonising: I think your math is a little off. 1500b is 15,000 dollars O.o. I think it's closer to 150bil but maybe even 300bil plus on a battle mage for cap on endgame bosses. Not sure though. 1500bil doesn't sound right.

Evan need more lines

Evans are boring, very boring...but we all have different tastes.

Battle mages are a lot more fun, but they do half dmg on bosses because of no ele reset. They're good once you get the 170 hyper. Before that, they're not that great.

With less than 2m range you can already cap Evans, but for Bams, you would need A LOT more. Sure Bams will be better than Evans when hitting 50m lines, but good luck with that

[quote=mark24]It depends on your funding. If by serious funding you mean 150bil+then bam might be better, Otherwise evan would be more powerful. It depends on which you want to play though as well. Evan is very strong but I don't like playing it as much as other classes.[/quote]

Funding required to cap is well over 10x as much as 150bil, Practically to cap as an evan I'd say around 1500b will get you there if you can find good gear to buy, but there really isn't that much out there. Cubing and scrolling your own stuff though will most likely cost way more.

This means that it is impossible to outdps evans as a Bam until after 1500 dollas have heen invested into your character. Some other people said that Evans are bad bossers... they really aren't. They are the like the 8th or 9th strongest bossing class until they begin capping, and begin to be limited by the number of hit/s they do.

I made both but I stopped playing my Evan because I like BaM a lot better. Evan as mentioned is good for attacking mobs but not so much for bossing. You don't need to spend much on a BaM if you are just getting started. Later on you can upgrade to better gear. BaM can both boss and mob and I find they attack faster than an Evan. I know Evan can recover both HP and MP but you have to be in one spot to do so where as BaM already has high hp and a drain skill that is very useful when it comes to bossing.

Now if only they gave BaM more attacking skills. I use only about 3 attacking skills and the rest are a lot of buffs. Also it would be nice if Reaper had a summoning chance with every hit on a boss...

It depends on your funding. If by serious funding you mean 150bil+then bam might be better, Otherwise evan would be more powerful. It depends on which you want to play though as well. Evan is very strong but I don't like playing it as much as other classes.

@finfin, basically what harminsing said. To main and place major input of funds into a battle mage is serious consideration. We're awfully unique however our damage is not that great.

Well, I found my Evan an interesting class to play, but not a bossing class, and BaM totally mobs better, specially at the Alien Invasion PQ, but if you want to boss, well... err... Angelic Buster has 99,999,999 damage cap in most skills, and it's also very fun to play... after you get the last affinity XD good luck have fun

[quote=inuyou]Evan. having a giant onyx dragon summon 60% of the time as a hyper skill is great!

Idk how the guy above dies on his evan, all you do is utilize your support skills, like your heal aura that heals ur mp&hp 75% of the time lol which can stack with familiars, prob forgot magic guard

Theyre both good classes, i personally enjoyed evan more. BaM is basically using the same attack lv 10 to 170, where u use it half the time with the hyper skill

Also evan mobs incredibly well, Has one of the farthest vertical ranges of any class! Earthquake can hit things above you and so can blaze if you aim it properly
Bam has a melee range lol

and they both have terrible teleports but evan has dragon blink which can be faster than a lot of things depending on the map youre on and your luck[/quote]

BKB has insane vertical range, tf u talking about

[quote=Harmonising]They're both horrible considering a "serious" amount of funding, Evans hit cap way too quickly and BaMs have no elemental resist meaning they need to fund themselves way more than the other mages to do considerable damage.

Evans will be much stronger in the beginning, but once(if) you get to around 1.5m range you will stop seeing gains on your evan since you will be hitting Cap on most bosses besides Cvellum, whereas BaM will be no where near capping.

If your serious funding does not consider capping into the equation then Evan will be far stronger than BaM regardless of funding level due to the high % damage of their skills and Elemental Resist.

Mobbing wise, Evan is superior, capable of soloing the entire SDH map using flamewheel by alternating sides, as well as the bottom plat of Armory if you have a party.[/quote]

Thank you so much! Exactly what I needed.
I guess the capping will not be too much of a problem, I am happy to fund it to just 1m range and let it hit cap then I can consider it done Furthermore, Blaze Wizard is coming in a few months time I can always psok everything and transfer to that if the lacking of potential in Evan bothers me.

Once again, thank you all for all the advice. I have decided on Evan, mainly due to the lack of elemental reset on BaM.

They're both horrible considering a "serious" amount of funding, Evans hit cap way too quickly and BaMs have no elemental resist meaning they need to fund themselves way more than the other mages to do considerable damage.

Evans will be much stronger in the beginning, but once(if) you get to around 1.5m range you will stop seeing gains on your evan since you will be hitting Cap on most bosses besides Cvellum, whereas BaM will be no where near capping.

If your serious funding does not consider capping into the equation then Evan will be far stronger than BaM regardless of funding level due to the high % damage of their skills and Elemental Resist.

Mobbing wise, Evan is superior, capable of soloing the entire SDH map using flamewheel by alternating sides, as well as the bottom plat of Armory if you have a party.

Evan. having a giant onyx dragon summon 60% of the time as a hyper skill is great!

Idk how the guy above dies on his evan, all you do is utilize your support skills, like your heal aura that heals ur mp&hp 75% of the time lol which can stack with familiars, prob forgot magic guard

Theyre both good classes, i personally enjoyed evan more. BaM is basically using the same attack lv 10 to 170, where u use it half the time with the hyper skill

Also evan mobs incredibly well, Has one of the farthest vertical ranges of any class! Earthquake can hit things above you and so can blaze if you aim it properly
Bam has a melee range lol

and they both have terrible teleports but evan has dragon blink which can be faster than a lot of things depending on the map youre on and your luck

Bam all the way. Evan does not mob as good as Bam. I've played evan and I died so many times.