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Deciding between Shade or Phantom

I am currently a level 165 shade and its bossing power is ridiculous. Even with mediocre funding, I'm hitting about 1.4m per line once the boss is below 50% health.
It's at 105k range, but I find its main mobbing skill and lack of buffs very underwhelming and unsatisfying.

I haven't played Phantom since their release and planing on switching back to it for a more variety of skills.
My phantom is currently level 135 and it has 53k range buffed (Level 20 Aria, and Crossover Chains) with very basic items(Necro Cane, etc ).

I'm planning on hitting about 100k range with Phantom. Can anyone give me an estimate on how much damage I will be dishing out and how much more funding I will need to boss as effectively as my Shade?

Thanks in advance!

July 23, 2014

6 Comments • Newest first

Chup

@FlagNorFail: No problem. Good luck funding your Phantom!

PS: You get an awesome car mount at level 200. <3

Reply July 24, 2014
wingless666

Shade is good but raising your range is going to be painful since your clean range > buffed range.

Reply July 24, 2014
UAPaladin

With your amount of funding, it'd be better to go with a shade

Reply July 24, 2014
FlagNorFail

[quote=Chup]I just made my Phantom recently. Honestly. Cross Surge is amazing. I started mine about a week ago, and it's level 182 now (Leveling 4th job is very easy in my opinion ) Anyways, they are extremely strong. I will agree they are relatively hard to fund, but most thieves are. It's definitely the most fun class I've played so far because of it's versatility and diversity. I like how sometimes I can just leech and HS/Rage/SE, while other times, I can switch to Cross Surge and start killing the monsters. Their mobbing is very good and they have the potential to be the best bossers in the game (however you need incredible amounts of funding to make this worth it over other classes.) Concerning range, my range is 110k buffed right now with Cross Surge + Rage + All other phantom buffs. I have 3 piece [b]CLEAN RA[/b] (yet to equip my faf cane because I'm in the process of scrolling it. Other than that I just have all the link skills and some evo rings. Once it's done my range should go up a lot. I'm hitting around 250k a line of Mille. Good luck if you decide to make a Phantom. I'll be maining mine from now on

Edit: I also got my Shade to level 167, but the fact that my main skill only hit 3 monsters just made me quit the character all together.[/quote]

That's pretty sweet. We're practically on the same boat, but you're ahead of me haha. But yeah, thanks for the estimate on the damage, much appreciated.

Reply July 23, 2014
Chup

I just made my Phantom recently. Honestly. Cross Surge is amazing. I started mine about a week ago, and it's level 182 now (Leveling 4th job is very easy in my opinion ) Anyways, they are extremely strong. I will agree they are relatively hard to fund, but most thieves are. It's definitely the most fun class I've played so far because of it's versatility and diversity. I like how sometimes I can just leech and HS/Rage/SE, while other times, I can switch to Cross Surge and start killing the monsters. Their mobbing is very good and they have the potential to be the best bossers in the game (however you need incredible amounts of funding to make this worth it over other classes.) Concerning range, my range is 110k buffed right now with Cross Surge + Rage + All other phantom buffs. I have 3 piece [b]CLEAN RA[/b] (yet to equip my faf cane because I'm in the process of scrolling it. Other than that I just have all the link skills and some evo rings. Once it's done my range should go up a lot. I'm hitting around 250k a line of Mille. Good luck if you decide to make a Phantom. I'll be maining mine from now on

Edit: I also got my Shade to level 167, but the fact that my main skill only hit 3 monsters just made me quit the character all together.

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited
CarnitasLoco

By posting this is the Phantom forum you're going to get very biased replies.

Phantom has the opportunity for some of the highest hits/sec in the game. Even when Frozen Orb gets fixed, Arrow Blaster will still be really fast. However, that also means it's got very low %/sec.

Shade is really OP, seeing as it's a new class, and it hits both large hits/sec and %/sec. I'm not aware of any nerfs on the KMS server however I assume they'll stick to the high defense, high offense but low mobility bosser they intend the class to be. I'd assume they'll receive a number nerf and gain a CD on either Fox Trot or Backstep but only time will tell.

Unless you're capping, Shade is definitely the stronger class.

Reply July 23, 2014 - edited