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someone tried justifying Ksing

In response to "so you think it's okay for people to kill everything on sight in a map you've been training on for several hours?" , i got "it's not your mobs, or my mobs it's nexon's mobs so we can do whatever"

wow. [b]die[/b] somewhere.

btw my luminous took care of it, calm your self some of you. so easily butt hurt.

Judging from the comments I think I'm disgusted to think you would all KS if you had to. Wow. just wow.

[b]OFFTOPIC:Is anyone getting a 1 second lag right when monsters spawn? or lag when they are close to cassandra?(btw town lag is actually cassandra lag i think.[/b]

December 28, 2012

38 Comments • Newest first

FrozenFlameO

[quote=eRaTeam]wow your complaining Now, back then in scania when VenGeanCe was still around if you ks 1 member you get ks by the whole guild, and they will Ks you when they enter your training map and take your CH + the use of d/c hacks were really common. One of the most feared guild in scania back then, it even took a GM to take action to disbandon the guild due to its harassment and ksing of other people....[/quote]

Wow never knew about them, how horrible....

Reply December 29, 2012
Andwoos

@evilslasher: See, that's the fallacy. You keep saying that because I can't provide evidence of players being banned for KSing, then no one has or ever will be banned for KSing. You completely disregard the fact that we (as players) are incapable of providing evidence of players who have been banned for KSing, falling back on the "if you can't show me someone banned for it, then you're wrong" argument.

Let's put it like this. What you're doing is saying that God exists simply because I can't provide evidence to prove that he doesn't exist. But, you aren't capable of proving that he [b]doesn't[/b] exist either. In both cases, you're asking for evidence that I would be incapable of providing, then claiming yourself correct because I am incapable of providing such evidence, not because I don't have the evidence, but because I am incapable of finding it, which would complete the fallacy.

If anything, I think the quote "I proved that you're wrong, and if you're wrong I'm right" would suffice in this situation, if I wanted to prove I was more correct than you anyways.

Reply December 29, 2012 - edited
evilslasher

@Andwoos: And that makes you any more correct? Very fine of you to say that I'm using logical fallicies, when you yourself have yet to come up with a shred of evidence proving your point.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
Andwoos

[quote=evilslasher]When is the last time anyone even got a d/c for KSing? This is one of those proofs where all you have to do is prove that it's never happened. And it hasn't.[/quote]

So, you've decided to fall onto [url=http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/ignorance.html]logical fallacies[/url], I see. You're basically trying to say I'm wrong because I can't disprove your point that no one has [b]ever[/b] been banned for KSing, which isn't possible since none of us here have the capability of finding out that information. Also, don't bring up something that would relate to "Well, we never heard anyone complain about being banned for KSing" since that doesn't prove no one was banned for KSing. That only proves that no one has not made a thread about being banned for KSing (not mentioning how most "I got banned" threads display the OP claiming complete innocence or ignorance on their bans). That doesn't make you correct.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
FrozenFlameO

i'm wonderful

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
xFinalSorax

[quote=PlagueDM]Its okay because scientific research has proven that all KSers are virgins.[/quote]

Hahaha!
Made my day!

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
evilslasher

[quote=Andwoos]@evilslasher: Which proves my point. They are capable of banning for KSing. We don't see them ban for it most likely for the reasons I've mentioned before.

What you've posted has hinted at they are incapable of banning for it, despite being capable of banning for it, which is a contradiction in itself. Not to mention your initial post, where you hint that they don't ban for KSing, even though there's no proof of that.[/quote]

When is the last time anyone even got a d/c for KSing? This is one of those proofs where all you have to do is prove that it's never happened. And it hasn't.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
Andwoos

@evilslasher: Which proves my point. They are capable of banning for KSing. We don't see them ban for it most likely for the reasons I've mentioned before.

What you've posted has hinted at they are incapable of banning for it, despite being capable of banning for it, which is a contradiction in itself. Not to mention your initial post, where you hint that they don't ban for KSing, even though there's no proof of that.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
evilslasher

@Andwoos: Being able to do something about it, is a different story to actually doing something about it. Which they are not.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
Andwoos

@evilslasher: Actually, it doesn't. They [b]can[/b] do something about it. The issue is that in order to ban someone, they need solid evidence. Usually, by the time someone is claiming to be KSed, it's too late since you can't determine who was killing first. If GMs patrolled the maps that were regularly trained at instead of maps that contain botters, then you'd be able to see the difference as they would have that evidence to put a ban in place.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
evilslasher

@Andwoos: But that just proves my point. They know they can't do anything against it, and yet they still say that it's bannable. I don't really know who they're kidding...

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
AszHoIe

You should visit KMS.
There is no such thing as "cc plz", fight for your map or lose it.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
FrozenFlameO

@ShadeCaro: oh god you didn't read anything, k you can hush now.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
ShadeCaro

[quote=FrozenFlameO]If you actually paid attention to anything i wrote in that thread, you would see otherwise.[/quote]

I did.

The 2nd wave of tears about Phantoms and Parties, sorry forgot to mention it.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
FrozenFlameO

[quote=ShadeCaro]Aren't you the guy who flooded with tears about how a Phantom won't HS you?[/quote]

If you actually paid attention to anything i wrote in that thread, you would see otherwise.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
ShadeCaro

Aren't you the guy who flooded with tears about how a Phantom won't HS you?

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
Andwoos

@evilslasher: Pointless fix is pointless. It's hard to ban for KSing. Although GMs can determine who was in a map first, it's hard to determine who was killing what monsters first, hence the reason why it's hard to issue a legitimate ban for KSing.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
GoodBeefTaco

[quote=ox0Shad0w0xo]@FrozenFlameO I agree completely. I hate that logic so much. So what if I don't own the map or the monsters on it, I'm clearly training here so don't come in and try to force me to share with you like you own the map.

The most ridiculous one I had was I was farming boxes at dragon turtles on my luminous then some guy came in(forgot what class he was but his skills didn't have much distance) and starts killing, so I attack the top platform while he's at the bottom and reflection bounced like it does and killed everything. He then got mad at me saying I was being a jerk because I don't own the map and I should have just shared with him. But considering that I was on a drop coupon and he just showed up out of nowhere and started killing without saying a word... Plus that map is so unpopular there were plenty of empty channels. It's like going to the bathroom and using the stall right next to the other guy when every other urinal in the bathroom is empty. Who does that?[/quote]

I seen more ridiculous; this guy at lhc was kicked out the party by the leader for leeching, then the guy gets mad for it and log on his high dmg char. For an hr and half he ks the party and when he can't ks me, he stalks the leader as he moves ch to ch. After that the ksing stalker tells the leader of r party I hope u learn your lesson..... Today I saw that same stalking kser trying to join my party I told him "we r full". After that he start writing with all cap We R FULL! what ENGLISH IS THAT, and he goes on trying to start something with me as he misspelling all his words. O.O I just ignore him and told everyone in my party not to talk to him. After a few mins he left...... All they want to do is show off by ksing cuz they got nothing better to do with their time then stalk and harass people.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
evilslasher

[quote=Andwoos]@2lazy2makeaname: Added? It's been in there for [b]years[/b]. It's just put in there so that the GMs can get a kick out of knowing that it's in the ToS and not doing anything about it.[/quote]

Fixed...

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
FrozenFlameO

[quote=DavidLe]those lv 200 in Satellite guild ksed
they feel entitle to everything cuz they think
they are godly dbag[/quote]

Satellite, *hnadful of spanish guilds* , among many others that think it's okay to bring their entire party to a crocky map where another party already was at. it's sad really.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
DavidLe

those lv 200 in Satellite guild ksed
they feel entitle to everything cuz they think
they are godly dbag

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
Andwoos

@2lazy2makeaname: Added? It's been in there for [b]years[/b]. It's just rarely enforced.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
2lazy2makeaname

[quote=LEGENDairy]Does the Maple ToS still say that ksing isn't allowed?[/quote]
[quote=Andwoos]It still does. [/quote]

since when was that added? i always thought KSing was allowed

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
SriLankanKen

When someone tries justifying ksing... I just justify with more ksing. ~_~

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
FrozenFlameO

@ox0Shad0w0xo: omg i agree. I'm the type of guy that's like ask me and i'll be happy to share, but if you just walk in and blow up everything... *logs on ds and luminous* Also, i hate people that say CC plz as soon as I enter a map. JUST NO.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
ox0Shad0w0xo

@FrozenFlameO I agree completely. I hate that logic so much. So what if I don't own the map or the monsters on it, I'm clearly training here so don't come in and try to force me to share with you like you own the map.

The most ridiculous one I had was I was farming boxes at dragon turtles on my luminous then some guy came in(forgot what class he was but his skills didn't have much distance) and starts killing, so I attack the top platform while he's at the bottom and reflection bounced like it does and killed everything. He then got mad at me saying I was being a jerk because I don't own the map and I should have just shared with him. But considering that I was on a drop coupon and he just showed up out of nowhere and started killing without saying a word... Plus that map is so unpopular there were plenty of empty channels. It's like going to the bathroom and using the stall right next to the other guy when every other urinal in the bathroom is empty. Who does that?

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
ChildsPlay

The new generation of this game: at its finest.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
GoodBeefTaco

Some kser r just kids with too much money from their parents; just ignore them and play the game. If you let them get to u, ur just adding to the fire.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
Andwoos

[quote=LEGENDairy]Does the Maple ToS still say that ksing isn't allowed?[/quote]

It still does.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
LEGENDairy

Does the Maple ToS still say that ksing isn't allowed?

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
kennyowns

If it's a popular map then I can relate, but if it's like a unpopular map, then why couldn't you have cc'ed? It's not that hard and saves a bunch of time.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
proplayer

spank him

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
Psydei

Well, actually the mobs, the chars and everything else is copyrighted material by nexon corp. so yeah...

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
CherryTigers

just bring a team of 6 demon slayers and say, WUT >.<

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited
dusk278

How about you? If you don't like to get KS then do something about it. Don't make a thread complaining about getting KS'd all the time.

Reply December 28, 2012 - edited