what level does blaze beat Fw?
on mobs of 8 or less of course, damage wise level 23 blaze hits 3 times for 292 however it feels faster than wheel and has PDR built in
March 17, 2013
what level does blaze beat Fw?
on mobs of 8 or less of course, damage wise level 23 blaze hits 3 times for 292 however it feels faster than wheel and has PDR built in
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@Skyenets: You're welcome Suzy. We still on for Tuesday mani pedi's?
[quote=tenseiga1]@Skyenets: It has, but there's no acknowledgment of it.[/quote]
Err ok, if it means that much to you.
@Improvement: Thanks Ray for the info?
@Skyenets: It has, but there's no acknowledgment of it.
@tenseiga1: It's been pointed out already.
[quote=Skyenets]Isn't Flame wheel 690ms while Blaze is 900ms? Pretty sure FW is faster.
OT: On a horizontal training platform, Flame wheel is better due to its insane range. On a vertical training platform, Blaze wins if it can chain properly.[/quote]
it's the same speed.
[url=http://maplearchive.com/skill-wp.php?id=22181001]Blaze[/url]
[url=http://maplearchive.com/skill-wp.php?id=22171003]Flame Wheel[/url]
[quote=toad]@juarmo: I know it is not good having penalties on fire skills when using EleStaff 7. I don't remember now why i was smiling. Oh, and who was that Evan who tried to scam you?[/quote]
I don't remember. It happened right when clean estaff5s became worth 1bil due to the item generating hacks, so he was offering like 4bil for 1bil. Fishy, eh? That's why I'm CERTAIN he tried to scam me, especially because the fact that decrease didn't affect bonuses was fresh in my mind (I had just read it a few days earlier on basil)
@juarmo: I know it is not good having penalties on fire skills when using EleStaff 7. I don't remember now why i was smiling. Oh, and who was that Evan who tried to scam you?
@toad you're smilie makes me think that you think still having the penalty after using derease is a good thing. With an estaff 7, your damage is cut down to 3/4 of what it should be, which is bad for dps, and even with decrease, your fire skills are still cut to 3/4 power. Guys, this other evan once tried to scam me by trading a godly elestaff 7 for my clean elestaff 5, saying that elemental decrease removed the penalty, and I was like, then why do you want to trade a PERFECTED Ele7 for a CLEAN ele5 if the penalty doesn't apply when decrease is in effect?, and closed the trade. People must think I'm an idiot, anyone with a BRAIN could tell there was something suspicious about offering a perfected 7 for a clean 5, he HAD to have a hidden agenda.
@Skyenets: opps my bad didn't really check the date sorry, but i still feel like blaze and fw are the same
[quote=diassd]@Skyenets: [url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=21148&highlight=evan+skills][here/url] I checked and i found out Blaze is actually faster then FW[/quote]
Seeing as that thread was last edited in 2009, I don't feel it will be all that accurate.
[quote=diassd]@Skyenets: [url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=21148&highlight=evan+skills][here/url] I checked and i found out Blaze is actually faster then FW[/quote]
This is crazy old, you know.
@Skyenets: [url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=21148&highlight=evan+skills][here/url] I checked and i found out Blaze is actually faster then FW
[quote=sunpark99]Btw sorry if this may be obvious... but how many targets does blaze hit max?[/quote]
Blaze:8 Wheel:10
Btw sorry if this may be obvious... but how many targets does blaze hit max?
[quote=Improvement]...-Elemental Decrease has absolutely no effect on Elemental Weapon bonus. Your damage doesn't go down when you use an Elemental Staff 5 and need to use Elemental Decrease, so why would it boost your damage with a 7 or 8?[/quote]
It's what i wanted to know. If i use Elemental Decrease and use Elemental Staff 7, I will receive the penalty when using fire skills then, right?
And It's possible to train to 200 using EStaff 7? If yes, which skill should I use to train? I don't know too much about Evans.
Thanks.
Too much misinformation in this threaddd.
-Flame Wheel and Blaze are the exact same speed, 900 milliseconds at Normal (6), 690 milliseconds at Fastest (2)
-Elemental Decrease has absolutely no effect on Elemental Weapon bonus. Your damage doesn't go down when you use an Elemental Staff 5 and need to use Elemental Decrease, so why would it boost your damage with a 7 or 8?
Well, at HOH I tend to use FW once to hit all the monsters so they run towards me, then Blaze because they're all bunched up together after that.
[quote=Skyenets]Isn't Flame wheel 690ms while Blaze is 900ms? Pretty sure FW is faster.
OT: On a horizontal training platform, Flame wheel is better due to its insane range. On a vertical training platform, Blaze wins if it can chain properly.[/quote]
o.O i was counting out hits (idk how accurate that is) and to me it seemed that blaze was faster
[quote=diassd]They are the same speed[/quote]
Isn't Flame wheel 690ms while Blaze is 900ms? Pretty sure FW is faster.
OT: On a horizontal training platform, Flame wheel is better due to its insane range. On a vertical training platform, Blaze wins if it can chain properly.
@SmilingCurse: But the penalty for using fire attacks with the ice staff don't change, right? I remember that there was a guide about it here on basil..
@above yes, but elemental staffs STILL give the elemental penalty even WITH Elemental Decrease
@toad: With Elemental Decrease, the damage you hit, is as if you're hitting a monster that has no elemental to it what so ever.
[quote=SkyBreak]Blaze have PDR and FW have DoT.
Your choice[/quote]
That DoT is a joke, it does little to no damage compare to the actual attack.
@SmilingCurse: But Elemental Decrease will help me with the EleStaff 7 penalty?
[quote=toad]Sorry for stealing thread, i have only one question...
It's possible to train (without focusing on bossing) using the Elemental Staff 7? Or i need a fire staff? [/quote]
A fire staff would definitely me beneficial... I used a ele staff 8 and I had -40k /line with FW
[quote=toad]Sorry for stealing thread, i have only one question...
It's possible to train (without focusing on bossing) using the Elemental Staff 7? Or i need a fire staff? [/quote]
It is possible. But you would need to use Elemental Decrease most of the times. A fire staff does give additional bonus so it is advised to get one. Or a neutral weapon with no elemental abilities.
Sorry for stealing thread, i have only one question...
It's possible to train (without focusing on bossing) using the Elemental Staff 7? Or i need a fire staff?
[quote=SkyBreak]Blaze have PDR and FW have DoT.
Your choice[/quote]
That 6% DoT doesn't even count as DoT lol.
OT: It's situational. Use Blaze if the mobs are close and Flame Wheel when they're far away or when you want to push them back to avoid dmg.
Blaze have PDR and FW have DoT.
Your choice
They are the same speed
Blaze might be stronger, but wheel has that insane horizontal range.