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How do I find out the PDR of monsters Im trying to look at pinkbean and chaos horntail and empress

@geovanny7: don't worry, most people will never deal with a ridiculously high PDR monster like Chaos Vellum. general bosses that the masses can handle have less than 100 PDR. some harder ones might have 120 PDR. using ~70% Ignore, you'll be able to do 64% if your max dmg here against a 120 PDR monster.

@geovanny7:

Well you can round it off to 70% if you want, but it really doesn't matter.

70% is pretty decent for most situations, but when we take chaos vellum as an example: 300 x 0.7 = 210. 300- 210 = 90. So even with all that defense ignore, you'd only do 10% of what you normally do on vellum. That's before factoring in physical resist. meaning that you'd do 5% of what you normally do.

[quote=GoXDS]so just using the formula posted...we get
1-(1-0.3)(1-0.3)(1-0.1)(1-0.1)(1-0.1)(1-0.06)(1-0.05)(1-0.05)(1-0.01) <- you forgot about ambition, which I included as 1%
that's 69.9999% Ignore.
against CVellum, that means his PDR is reduced from 300 to 90.0026 PDR. meaning you'll deal 10% of your maximum dmg.[/quote]

Wow thats so low xD Idk what this Cvellium boss is tho lol since I just came back to playing and only have been leveling. Is this boss meant to be this hard/has it been killed in na regularly?

so just using the formula posted...we get
1-(1-0.3)(1-0.3)(1-0.1)(1-0.1)(1-0.1)(1-0.06)(1-0.05)(1-0.05)(1-0.01) <- you forgot about ambition, which I included as 1%
that's 69.9999% Ignore.
against CVellum, that means his PDR is reduced from 300 to 90.0026 PDR. meaning you'll deal 10% of your maximum dmg.

[quote=MyKarma]All that stuff gives you 69.7% defense ignore, you can work the rest out yourself.[/quote]
Oh I used your formula and I got 0.6969696969 <--lol so shouldnt it be 70%

Nvm I think I read your comment wrong I thought you said 66%. This is fairly high right? Idk what usual people have

[quote=geovanny7]Well I looked through all my stuff and I have PDR from: 30% Codex, 30% Overclock skill passive, 10% Gun, 10%link, 10%hat, 6% Pirate way S, 5% shirt, 5% pants= 106% pdr? idk why it says I have 107. Can anyone use a boss like Chaos Vellum as an example with my stuff[/quote]

All that stuff gives you 69.7% defense ignore, you can work the rest out yourself.

Well I looked through all my stuff and I have PDR from: 30% Codex, 30% Overclock skill passive, 10% Gun, 10%link, 10%hat, 6% Pirate way S, 5% shirt, 5% pants= 106% pdr? idk why it says I have 107. Can anyone use a boss like Chaos Vellum as an example with my stuff

[quote=Dkiu221]It means you need 300% ignore to break all of their defense and do full damage[/quote]

That is incorrect, % defense ignore does not work like that.

%defense ignore is multiplicative meaning that the value of 107% you see in your stats window is incorrect.

To get your actual %ignore, use this formula:

1 - (1-a) x (1-b) x (1-c)..... etc. a,b and c represent your sources of %ignore.

If you had two sources of def ignore, let's say the lumi link skill (15%) and 30% on your weapon.

1 - (1-0.15) x (1-0.3) = 0.405 or 40.5% ignore.

This way you can never actually have 100% def ignore, you can get close but never 100%.

Zakum has 40 defense. With 40.5% def ignore, you'd ignore 40 x 0.405 = 16.2 defense leaving him with 23.8 defense. You'd be doing 100-23.8 = 76.2% of what you normally do in this case.

For a boss like chaos vellum, it'd be 300 x 0.405 = 121.5 leaving him with (300-121.5) 178.5 defense. which is over 100 meaning that you'll only be doing 1's on him

You can also look at it the way @davexd94 described it. You'll end up with the same numbers in the end, but once you find out your %def ignore you can figure out the rest pretty easily.

I found this hard too Just because you have 100% PDR does not mean you ignore 100% DEF lets say you have 100% pdr like this you have 45% on weapon 10% on link skill 15% on Neb and 30% on 2ndary [ i know these are not true just a example ] You take 100% of the DEF lets say its 1000, eash point of PDR is taken off by itsself so take away 45% that you have on weapon of 1000 leaving 550 then you you take 10% from link skill from 550 leaving 495 then 15% from Neb leaving 420.75 then 30% from 2ndary Leaving around 394 DEF, i know the math might not be right but you get the idea. hope this helps.

[quote=geovanny7]So what does my 107% ignore do? What do bosses usually have and normal mobs like in HoH? I thought mine was pretty high[/quote]

its somewhat high but c-vellum is stupidly strong, so as cpb.

So what does my 107% ignore do? What do bosses usually have and normal mobs like in HoH? I thought mine was pretty high

It means you need 300% ignore to break all of their defense and do full damage

What? can you explain didnt really help me understand at all

No
Pretty sure Chaos Vellum and CPB have like 300% defense