2m-2m range is not enough?
Hi Guys,
So currently im 1.65-1.85 clean, and with 1 buff (kaiser) im at 2-2. Not counting other buffs, not counting tranforms +50% dmg/se/etc. 93% crit, 200% boss, 87 pdr.
I cleared hell gollux twice maybe a month or so ago, but now i have no idea how i was able to.
Has it recently gotten harder? I acknowledge i'm not the best at dodging, so maybe I'm doing less optimal damage than i should be.
A Zero buddy of mine has 2-2 clean, and together we ran out of time at the jewel. So two 2-2's couldnt provide the dpm needed.
Hard Magnus solo is not an option since he just has way too much hp, that and with the time it would take there's no way i could avoid for that long.
Chaos RA seem out of reach as well.
It almost seems like i need 3m-3m or 4m-4m range to do these bosses efficiently.
I was not aware of this drop off, so i'm looking at classes that perform more efficient than their range seems to allow.
Such as a class who can solo a boss efficiently with a range that should normally be much higher. Like Wind archer of mine could solo chaos zak with 1/3rd of the normal range expected.
Has anyone else run into this?
It seems i can clear bosses i could when i had 700k range, just much much faster, but almost none of the higher tier bosses.
Thanks
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Hard mag is only difficult because of its gimmicks. If you bring 1-2 binders, and get enough practice surviving and maximizing dps opportunities, hard mag should be possible for players who have 1.5m or even lower (depending on which class). I suggest trying to find some YT videos on kaisers soloing hard mag in order to reduce magnus' gimmickiness and note down some tricks that other kaisers' may be utilizing.
Hm, perhaps my visual range is being misrepresented (attack mode, etc). I also think im not layering my attacks. I use wingbeats + attacks, but seldom use swords, and seldom use summons.
Im at 200% boss, but it sounds like it may be worth it to subtract some others to add more boss.
surprising...i would expect a range close to 2m-2m to be able to solo hellux...if you have someone take care of bottom mobs and you attack the jewel the entire time with not too many distractions, you should have enough dpm to win, even as a kaiser i believe. cra takes practice, as when i first started, i died all my lives without even getting them to half hp. hard magnus...just avoid the rocks most importantly, and bind
Try to replace your total damage% lines with atk% or boss%.
[quote=ggames]hmm, thanks for the tips. I am probably wasting time hunting summons.
Should i change my wep/secondary/emblem pots for more boss and lose like 200-300k range?
Sword:
12% att
9% total dmg
9% crit
bonus:
12% total dmg
9% att
4% pdr
Secondary:
30% boss
9% att
9% att
bonus:
12% att
9% att
%hp
Emblem:
12% att
9% crit
9% total dmg
bonus:
12% crit
9% att
%mp[/quote]
How much %boss do you have? Judging from your items, you need more %boss.
Ok first off Kaisers have ridiculous visual range so comparing other classes range is kinda silly
Also using range to determine is a bad idea aswell because too many factors can bluff ranges (%total dmg) %pdr and physical resistance are a factor too.
so best to give how much you're hitting per line.
Now as for a Kaiser soloing hell gollux with a Fafnir sword i was able to solo decently with using a rune at 17mils on avg, my control is decent
When I switched to a ryude sword before I could even get pot on the sword I was able to solo without any runes or potions hitting 15mils.
Make sure you use your summons to control spawn, and use maj right and summon 3 sword attacks as you're throwing out wing beats when starting the jewel.
As a Kaiser you have to layer your attacks to get the highest DPM. Hope that helps
hmm, thanks for the tips. I am probably wasting time hunting summons.
Should i change my wep/secondary/emblem pots for more boss and lose like 200-300k range?
Sword:
12% att
9% total dmg
9% crit
bonus:
12% total dmg
9% att
4% pdr
Secondary:
30% boss
9% att
9% att
bonus:
12% att
9% att
%hp
Emblem:
12% att
9% crit
9% total dmg
bonus:
12% crit
9% att
%mp
im not a kaiser , but yes 2m 2m isnt very high for end game bosses
When you're on the 2nd platform, I would use your Torando to go off it and kill the things at the bottom. Also make sure you dodge the FMA because that will hurt until you get to the forehead. If you still tend to die at the forehead I would also throw the Torando off from there to be safe.
I would say you guys are doing something very wrong, most classes don't even need 2m-2m range to solo hell gollux
A capping wind archer kills the gem in under half the timer, to give you an idea of how much damage you need.. pretty sure kaiser has more hits/s so my guess would be at most 20-25m lines to comfortably solo it, so 10-13m lines would mean you are pulling your weight at least
whut.
a zero with 2m-2m cant handle gem?
scrubbbbb.
jk 4 real though, that gem shouldnt be a problem. ya'll r ducking up somewhere.
if you subscribe to the theory of "200% boss bruh, no more" then trading %att for more %boss for your regular potential if you're ever gonna recube will give you more dps
For gollux, you can put a stone dragon at the bottom portal so that you don't have to kill the mobs, the stone dragon should 1hit the mobs with 1.85m range, chaos queen should also be solo'able. Chaos von bon also, but i find it pretty hard to dodge the hadoken from him >.<
I'm 1m clean and my f/p buddy is like 1.5m clean
We can duo hellux, but only with runes. I don't know if the class difference matters though
Also for Hard Magnus, my Zero friend and I duo it. (Both 1m clean) He does more work, but skill should be all it takes at your ranges.