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In need of opinions

So ive got some gm scrolls for 1h sword that adds same as the 50% pink scrolls, and my delima is which weapon should i scroll it with?

If I could i want to scroll a clean vip 1h sword but theyre rare to find and very expensive. (idk if i could afford one after spending so much on the scolls, basically i would have to wait very long time before i could scrolling my weapon)

the other option is scroll a reverse executioners ( theyre like 10atk below than vips but they level up and much much more affordable)

now the last option is to scroll a pyrope sword which is fast(4) (the others are fast(5)). The only thing concerning me was that I noticed with a fast(5) with SI and normal(6) with SI had no speed difference in my eyes and Im wondering is it worth to scroll a pyrope sword for the fast(4)?

The weapon is for my hero and I plan perfect scrolling it and using it, not selling for profits. Your opinions are much appreciated.

(i posted this on the under general thread and realized I would get better responses if i posted on the sader/hero thread. sorry for the re-post, no more poll )

July 19, 2011

4 Comments • Newest first

gogihunter

thanks for sharing ur thoughts. I think I am going for the executioner because

1) when maxed lvl, the executioner will probably be about 5-7atk difference than vip 1H sword and thats much less than 17 atk difference between pyrope and executioners.

2) I understand the pyrope might be a better choice in terms of soloing bosses but I dont think my hero would be soloing anything other than zakum for a long time (only lvl 154 atm) and i still have ways to go for the %str i desire. I think the executioner will benefit me more (training, bossing with few ppls) at this stage.

3) I could upgrade to a faster sword in the future later on when Im more suited to soloing bosses. 180+. and maybe who knows there might be vpq coming back or better fast(4) sword might be released in the future.

Reply July 19, 2011
21993

There is speed difference but whether there's real difference on the speed of killing bosses or not I'm not sure. As far as I know, I think 15 Intrepid Slash in 10 seconds for Fast (5) and 17 Intrepid Slash in 10 seconds for Fast (4). You can test this out by yourself but this is what my eye can perceive. This means you're pulling off an extra hit every 5 seconds if we base it on my observation.
But I'm looking at my video records with my VIP 1h Axe(169atk 9%atk) versus my current Maple Pyrope(138atk). With Intrepid Slash, per line, without enrage, no critical, on regular monsters: My VIP goes 160k~220k while the Pyrope I have now goes 120k~160k. If we base it on the per 10 seconds, VIP: 2.4m~3.3m versus 2.04m~2.72m... Well, I'm not sure if that 9% atk made a big difference but it may have although what I'm thinking if we don't have that 9% it would decrease ~20k (this is overestimation too) on min and max which would still be 2.1m~3m.
Although this is just rough calculation based on my bare eyes, I think there's still more benefit if you use VIP (enhancements will add +4 versus +3 on maple Pyrope).

I'm not sure about executioner but I'm thinking that if there's a big difference between VIP and Executioner, Pyrope might be better. If not, then maybe Executioner. But then again, this is all talking solo. If you have SI/YA you will have higher dpm. There's more chances of critical with more hits so Pyrope can possibly change the tide with other factors. Also, you have to take into consideration if you're a fan of Speed and stuff. It's simple Pros and Cons and Preference.

Reply July 19, 2011 - edited
gogihunter

oh sorry to hear that Gonna make sure not to do that when I use shielding ward

I have the problem though. I dont think i have the patience to wait for vpq to comeback(if ever) and those other 2 weapons are way too high of dex requirement for me.(4 base dex)

I think the realistic choice is I would go for is either the reverse executioners or the pyrope. the only problem i have is that, is fast(4) that significantly faster than fast(5)enough to cover about 12 atk loss from executioners to pyrope? Anybody have first-hand experience of the speed difference?

Reply July 19, 2011 - edited
21993

I have exploded my VIP 1h Axe (+9, 1 star) 169atk, 30% boss, 9% atk, 3% all stat due to vague description of how Shielding Ward works and made me fail at 70% Enhancement... >_>...

But anyways, I changed into Maple Pyrope just because I felt like trying out speed...It is now +9, 1star also and currently epic 3lines... I initially bought 10 1h-gm scrolls with the plan of using it to either Agares Bloody Terror when the recipe gets out, or Lionheart Cutlass when I get my friends and their friends to set up a decent run. However, I just couldn't wait for the new weapons so I just traded my 10 gm scrolls for a +9pyrope with 2lines and base atk was above average. I went for speed because I'm more of a solo person anyways and I heard Pyrope is better in terms of soloing without those SI/Yellow Aura.

Think about how you're going to get them though.
VIP 1h Sword - You have to wait until they put VPQ back again. But I think this will be the easiest as long as it became available again.
(Lv130, Dex 160)Agares Bloody Terror - You will have to find the recipe for it which I think doesn't exist at the moment since the recipe doesn't pop out in the Owl of Minerva.
(Lv140, Dex 170)Lionheart Cutlass - Highly likely that you will have to wait for hackers to get a hold of these...
Maple Pyrope Sword - Next Anniversary might be too far ahead but at the same time finding a good one above average right now is hard.

Reply July 19, 2011 - edited