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Question about Staves.

How much Magic Attack= 1 Speed?

November 20, 2011

17 Comments • Newest first

Fryber

@Exrenbon: I don't spend real money on this game, but i'm so lucky my friends get a MW 30 from 1 of 2 MMB and he said he would buy me a clean ele staff

Reply November 22, 2011
Fryber

@14erlrot: Well i was assuming, either way i'm too poor to afford both

Reply November 22, 2011
darkspawn980

i misread the title....

Reply November 22, 2011
Fryber

[quote=horseboy23]@Fryber: O I never used it sorry. But either way elestaves are better.[/quote]

They're both fast speed it's just the ele staff usually has more Magic Attack clean

Reply November 22, 2011
darkanjl

@MeMagicalPie: It'd be me. Holding a big staff. Dressed like my character. 'Cept without the wings. Holding a box of cookies in my hand.

Reply November 22, 2011
MeMagicalPie

[quote=darkanjl]Of course you're a celeb - you're the only one who has taken the time to take the "mathletic" approach to explaining, in full detail, why we all keep parroting the phrase "Use an E-Staff". Now if you somehow manage to get all BaMs to [i]understand[/i] the math behind and justification behind it all, I'll personally send you a box of cookies. (Your choice) [/quote]

*Gives Address*
-One day later-
*Opens Door*
*Sees guy with [Insert Weapon Here]
HOLY SH--

Reply November 21, 2011
darkanjl

@Mysteltein: I wish Basil Nexon would fix the nekkid avatar issue already. It's... awkward. Lol

@Cthulhusama: I will pick and dry the grapes for the raisins, and bake the cookies myself! Muwahaha... <3

Reply November 21, 2011
darkanjl

[quote=Mysteltein]And you just redefined the word ''Swaggermeister'' with your avatar!

Thumbs up and a box of cookies to you too![/quote]

LOL! Thank you, kind sir!
I was going for a look reminiscent of my favorite Korean rapper T.O.P. from Big Bang and am glad it tickled your fancy.

Now then... Cookies for everyoneeeee!

Reply November 21, 2011
darkanjl

[quote=Cthulhusama]I'm some kind of celebrity now? Sweet[/quote]

Of course you're a celeb - you're the only one who has taken the time to take the "mathletic" approach to explaining, in full detail, why we all keep parroting the phrase "Use an E-Staff". Now if you somehow manage to get all BaMs to [i]understand[/i] the math behind and justification behind it all, I'll personally send you a box of cookies. (Your choice)

Reply November 21, 2011
horseboy23

@Fryber: O I never used it sorry. But either way elestaves are better.

Reply November 21, 2011
Cthulhusama

I'm some kind of celebrity now? Sweet.

Anyway. The formula isn't that hard. The detailed version is to take the MS speed of Finishing Blow (990MS) multiply it by (10+final attack speed of the weapon) and divide it by 16. Then you round it to the nearest multiple of 30. The same thing is done for any skill in the game barring a few (like Twister Spin) which aren't affected by weapon speed. So for a fast 4 weapon like the Elemental Staves you do 990 * (10+2) / 16 which gives you 742.5. Then you round that up to 750. A Slow 8 weapon gives you 990 * (10 + 6) / 16 which is 990. 990 is already rounded to the nearest multiple of 30 so that is the speed you attack with a slow 8 weapon (with booster on). So to see how much better DPM you would have with a faster staff you can divide the slower (larger) speed by the faster (smaller) speed. So 990 divided by 750 is 1.32. So you attack 32% faster with a fast 4 weapon than you would with a slow 8 weapon. Technically it would be more accurate to say that your total range with a slow weapon would need to be 32% higher than with a fast weapon to be better but it is easier and 99% accurate to just use matk.

The shorter version is just to multiply the matk of the fast staff by 4/3 and then add 1/3 matk per 1 matk from other sources. This will give you how much matk a slow 8 staff would need to beat out a fast 4 staff. The Reverse and Timeless staves are actually slower 9 and would need to be 40% better than a fast 4 staff.

Reply November 21, 2011
Xonchibi

Just that an Evil Wings with 100 M.ATK staff will out DPM a slow staff with 140 or less M.ATK.

Reply November 21, 2011
Fryber

[quote=horseboy23]This haha. or that lvl10x mushroom[/quote]

Actually i believe it's 92

Reply November 21, 2011
horseboy23

[quote=yoyobrains0]i have no idea...
just use an elemental staff[/quote]

This haha. or that lvl10x mushroom

Reply November 20, 2011
yoyobrains0

i have no idea...
just use an elemental staff

Reply November 20, 2011