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What's wrong with using dragon types as legendaries/moscots? It makes sense since the mythology around dragons depicts them as majestic and powerful creatures.

[quote=TheATMchoker]no.. ken sugimori is still the art director. he was in the credits of black 2 and white 2 and his artwork has remained exactly the same.[/quote]
Art Director he still is but most of the new Pokemon designs are done by new artists. Sugimori's main tasks these days are taking care of all the other art and reviewing ideas for new games.

[quote=Crimewave]Ever since Ken Sugimori stopped being the art/design director pokemon hasn't been the same.. But with new designers come new concepts. Personally I don't have a problem with the starters, but yes the legendaries seem overused. A deer and a dragon? they just had that for 5th gen.. Nonetheless the overworld and design looks great![/quote]

no.. ken sugimori is still the art director. he was in the credits of black 2 and white 2 and his artwork has remained exactly the same.

[quote=Braviary]@HelloMyCuties:
Charizard is still Fire/Flying no matter how he looks.
I forget Venasaur, Pikachu, and Blastoise on my list.[/quote]

Pokemon has a tendency of using dragon like and flying type Pokemon as mascots. Look at my original post, and what did I clearly say? For the past three generations, [i][b]three[/b][/i] generations, Pokemon has used dragon like mascots for most of it's games for the past three generations. And I did mention flying types in my O.P. as well. To me, it seems too repetitive to have the most important Pokemon, story-line wised as dragons or dragon like.

It truly looks totally amazing graphic wise, and the overworld 3-D thing is different, but I can tell it is still the same old tile movement.
The starters are not too bad in this generation, the fire fox starter is pretty cute, and the legendaries don't look so interesting, a deer and a dragon.

Too bad this is on 3DS, I refuse to buy one.

@HelloMyCuties:
Charizard is still Fire/Flying no matter how he looks.
I forget Venasaur, Pikachu, and Blastoise on my list.

[quote=Braviary]Dragons only?
How about Ho-Oh, Lugia (may look like a dragon, but he's Psychic/Flying), Kyogre, Groudon, and the weird bird thing and the weird stag thing from X/Y.[/quote]

What's 6 minus 3? And I highly doubt that legendary Y pokemon won't be dragon, considering at the designers tendencies with dragon type pokemon as mascots.

Charizard ( One step away from being a dragon type ) and Rayquza from generation three was a mascot for Emerald, The Creation Trio were mascots of most generation four games, The Ying Yang Trio were mascots for all generation five.

@Amuro; Whatever the case is, I'm still open to anything really. We can never tell what pokemon is or isn't from previously scraped generations and we probably have 150+ new pokemons that all have 50/50 chances of being actually original pokemons from previous generations. So I'll keep my speculations just for now. But who knows really? It just seems so sudden to me that Pokemon just released this game shortly after generation 5, and it sounds too good to be true sometimes. But, like what I said. Who knows really?

@HelloMyCuties There are always things that don't make it into the first set of games of a new generation due to time constraints (also from an interview with Masuda). That's what third versions and B2/W2 are for - including everything that they want to. There's no doubt that these, being the first Gen 6 games, won't be refined. Whether you choose to pick this up or wait for that special edition is up to you.

@pinksinsftw Ah, that was his name. I can't wait to see all of the Gen 6 Pokemon.

lol what. Another generation? I barely played the 5th one yet D:

Dragons only?
How about Ho-Oh, Lugia (may look like a dragon, but he's Psychic/Flying), Kyogre, Groudon, and the weird bird thing and the weird stag thing from X/Y.

The families of Vanillite, Golett, and Vullaby were designed by an American named James Turner*. I wonder what he designed this time.

[quote=Fennekin]@Crimewave Quite frankly, we don't really know who designed most things beyond Gen 2. The starters you see here (or anything else from previous gens that people claim just aren't the same) may have been created by Ken Sugimori long ago, but just haven't been used until now. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the newer designs poited out for (and bashed for) being 'different' were in fact designed by Sugimori.

Also, I believe that the Golett line was designed by an American. I think Golurk looks better than over half of the Gen 1 stuff, and this is coming from someone who grew up with Blue and Gold.

@HelloMyCuties Gen 5 was said to have taken about 4 years to develop in an interview with Masuda, so 4 years for this wouldn't be a terrible guess.[/quote]

Who knows? There might be somethings that could have been rushed in Pokemon X,Y and we wouldn't know until 4 years after the release... Example a; Mew from generation 1.

[quote=Fennekin]Being more open-minded helps. I had no complaints about the starters at first glance, which hasn't happened since Gen 2 (right before I entered my teenage years). The legendaries (not confirmed to be dragons just yet) look great too.

Gen 5 lasted 3 years. Gen 3 and 4 lasted 4 years only because of FR/LG and HG/SS. The 6th Gen isn't coming too soon, and has probably been the main focus of Game Freak devs for the last 4+ years.[/quote]

We can never tell in reality. Those generations could have been made in one to two years , and we would never now. But remember I said [b][i]"so far"[/i][/b], I'm relatively open to anything. I'm willing to bet, that the evolution will look amazing as well. I'm just stating what I think about the Pokemon Gen 6, [b][i]as of now.[/i][/b]

[quote=ThatBox]...
They just announced it today. You've seen 5 pokemon. Come on....[/quote]

Did you read? It said "so far".

Well... guess it gives me a reason to upgrade from my DS lite

[quote=Barquifa]well it's easy for everyone who already bought a 3ds to be happy about it..i bought the pokemon black dsi bundle when it came out because i needed a new ds. and then a few months later the 3ds came out. i never would have dreamed that they would have stopped releasing games for the ds and focused only on the 3ds though. don't have the money to just go drop on a 3ds either. a lifelong pokemon fan let down. maybe i can ask a friend if they have a 3ds they can let me borrow.

also, whats up with all the 3ds fanboys? o.o[/quote]

It's the product life cycle theory, eventually any product will retire and to be replaced by its successor or if it failed in the market. You probably should have done some research before buying that dsi bundle, if you did you would have known that the ds was near the end of its life cycle since the 3ds was already released.

[quote=Barquifa]well it's easy for everyone who already bought a 3ds to be happy about it..i bought the pokemon black dsi bundle when it came out because i needed a new ds. and then a few months later the 3ds came out. i never would have dreamed that they would have stopped releasing games for the ds and focused only on the 3ds though. don't have the money to just go drop on a 3ds either. a lifelong pokemon fan let down. maybe i can ask a friend if they have a 3ds they can let me borrow.

also, whats up with all the 3ds fanboys? o.o[/quote]

the DS has an 8-year library to draw on, so not getting 3DS games isn't the worst thing. also 8 years is a respectable life cycle for a console, even though the DS has been refreshed several times over (Lite, i, XL etc.).
it seems weirder to me that you feel so betrayed by the release of the 3DS when if you just looked at facts/behavior of game companies, there's really no reason to. especially now that the 3DS has a lot of high profile releases (coming up this year, hence the "fanboys" ) that are making the system worth it to buy (it certainly wasn't always that way).

well it's easy for everyone who already bought a 3ds to be happy about it..i bought the pokemon black dsi bundle when it came out because i needed a new ds. and then a few months later the 3ds came out. i never would have dreamed that they would have stopped releasing games for the ds and focused only on the 3ds though. don't have the money to just go drop on a 3ds either. a lifelong pokemon fan let down. maybe i can ask a friend if they have a 3ds they can let me borrow.

also, whats up with all the 3ds fanboys? o.o

@XtraTZu: I was thinking that too, but diamond /pearl's UI was perfect.. so I don't see what happened there. Too pixely, but this goes back to saying that it's about time they moved onto a better console!

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They just announced it today. You've seen 5 pokemon. Come on....

[quote=xDracius]Froakie is probably going to turn into some badass super-frog. At least it looks like a real frog, unlike Toxicroak.
Chespin is that pokemon you don't try and link to a realistic counterpart, it's just funny to look at. Definitely a grass-type Oshawott.
Fennekin is that visually appealing pokemon everyone will go for. It's almost impossible to turn that into a fire-fighting too, so that's a plus.

I was really looking forward to the Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald remakes. Maybe that'll be a ninja release in the summer?
So far, the only new pokemon I found easy to transition into was Gen 4. I honestly had no qualms about Gen 4 at all.[/quote]

I agree! Gen 4 was a super easy transition! a bunch of *normal* looking pokemon with of course a couple off odd ones like bronzog. Of course, then they also added tons of evolutions to older pokemon. I liked going from Gen III to Gen IV the most. I didn't like how black/white turned out. The UI/ etc was very poorly made imo. Not pleasing to the eye, especially the pokemon moving around during battles? That was just weird. The text looked weird too.

Froakie is probably going to turn into some badass super-frog. At least it looks like a real frog, unlike Toxicroak.
Chespin is that pokemon you don't try and link to a realistic counterpart, it's just funny to look at. Definitely a grass-type Oshawott.
Fennekin is that visually appealing pokemon everyone will go for. It's almost impossible to turn that into a fire-fighting too, so that's a plus.

I was really looking forward to the Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald remakes. Maybe that'll be a ninja release in the summer?
So far, the only new pokemon I found easy to transition into was Gen 4. I honestly had no qualms about Gen 4 at all.

[quote=Phong128992]I agree. I think they should move on to make a VMMORPG using NerveGear.[/quote]

This.... please. *Names rival Klein*

I'm looking forward to it! It's good to see them experimenting with a new style of gameplay for the series.
I already have a 3DS, so I'll definitely be getting it.
As for the starters, I thought the Unova ones were weird for a while before the games came out, but then I got used to them. So it'll probably be like that this time, too. :B

EDIT: @shortmech Yeah no kidding. LF> RSE remake >:T

[quote=Zlyphor]It's about time they moved on to the newer system. They can make use of the technology better now.[/quote]

I agree. I think they should move on to make a VMMORPG using NerveGear.

It's about time they moved on to the newer system. They can make use of the technology better now.
@XtraTZu: Also, "Furthermore, an employee at the Devon Corporation states that he wants to create a machine that can visually reproduce the dreams of Pokémon. Dream Mist, which is produced by Munna, can achieve this."

[quote=TheExile]I was a little dissapointed about how it's going to be on the 3DS, but I really don't blame them. I won't be buying it though, I don't want to distract myself with another console .[/quote]

What were you expecting, gen 6 on DS? The fact that gen 5 was for DS is already generous of game freak when they could have put black/white on 3DS.

They forgot to talk about pokemon emerald.

[quote=Barquifa]Only on the 3DS = no go for me.

Not falling for that gimmick.[/quote]

*facepalm*

The DS only has so many technical limitations. Do you realize how old it is now? Pokemon has kept themselves from making games for newer consoles for like ages anyway. It's about time for an upgrade. I didn't like the battle scenes for black/white anyway. They looked horrible.

There was a bird and a Virizion reskin. I see no dragons.
As for starters, Chespin looks cool, but wth is it?
Fenneken is okay, but do we need another fire fox? At least it's not fire fighting.
Froakle(name might be wrong) is another generic frog water type that looks terrible.
Overall starters are okay(other than the water).
As for the design, yes it looks like N64, but I'm sure they'll have it looking fine within the next 9 months. What I'm worried about is if they'll be lazy with the 3D. For example, if they stick with the standard pokemon grid-movement design, I'm gonna be really annoyed, since they could do it for Colosseum and Gale of Darkness, they should be able to do it here. Another thing to worry about is the camera, but I'll worry about that closer to launch.

You realize that the pokemon designs for 6th gen weren't made up on the spot, right? Some of the pokemon designs could've been around since Pokemon was first introduced. [url=http://hardreset.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Munna.png]You know Munna, that pink 5th gen pokemon? The design for that dates back to pokemon red and blue. [/url]

Lol, what?
I stop keeping up with Pokemon news for a few weeks and they start talking about Pokemon X and Y?

They used a flying squirrel and a thing that looked like that thing from Princess Mononoke

Only on the 3DS = no go for me.

Not falling for that gimmick.

I was a little dissapointed about how it's going to be on the 3DS, but I really don't blame them. I won't be buying it though, I don't want to distract myself with another console .

But I do agree, the 3 starters seemed... :S. Possibly because they're beginning to run out of ideas? We're going to have to wait and see though.
The 3D aspect has to be one of the biggest changes for me though, it has that Pokemon Colosseum/XD feel to it.

Well, they're not using dragons.
First one is some kind of bird.
Second is a deer. o-o

Anyways, hopefully the game will be good, but what about the Ruby/Sapphire remakes?