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Should I call the police?

I heard a noise in my backyard and saw a shadow of a person unscrewing my backlight. When I turned on the light, he fled.

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2716821

Edit: After checking the area.
My sister is alone in the house between 3-7. This happened a few minutes ago so I'd say 6 pm.
I was only home today since I'm skipping class to work on homework.
That person smashed one of my lights too.
I believe he was using a crowbar.

Looking for Camera system that can turn on with a push of a button when the adults are out. Need suggestions.

As of now, my sister will be alone for 2 more weeks until I get off school for finals.

Conclusive Edit
In the end, I've just gave her precaution. If I had cameras, which I failed to persuade my father to get (check the linked thread), I would've called the cops and handed them the evidence. I won't be telling my parents what happened until the weekend or it will occupy their mind while they're working.

November 19, 2014

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luckysausage

[quote=BoredAF]@luckysausage: IDK I just skimmed this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine I fully understand wanting to protect yourself from dying. I'd do it too and face jail time, rather than be dead. Haha, though I think the biggest reason the US has guns is the money, but that's neither here or there in this convo.

Anyways, don't go shooting anyone.[/quote]
yeah I know. Dont trust Wikipedia though (it may be written by someone outside of the US), it's the second amendment in the Constitution

Reply November 19, 2014
Rationnel

@HolyDragon: No worries. For the time being make sure your little sister has some sort of weapon on her incase they do get in to ensure her safety, and have her have a phone on her at all time. The people that are targeting your house are definitely monitoring you, you should take precautions. I hope everything works out for you and your family!

Reply November 19, 2014
Irony

Very rarely is break and enter considered robbery (where the offender uses force on victim), most of the time they will flee if they feel there is any presence of another party (neighbour, people inside the house, pets, etc.) so I wouldn't worry about your sister being harmed, but make sure she's alert.

My friends house got broken into while his brother was sleeping, they knocked him out though and proceeded to steal property worth value. Luckily my friend came home shortly after and the thieves ran before stealing more.

Reply November 19, 2014
HolyDragon

[quote=Xiscis]Call police on the phone tell them this
"this is someone in the back yard i dont know who it is and he is taking my stuff."
I am going to attack him i might kill him tho
"Wurf it"[/quote]

If only I knew better, I could've cornered him in the backyard. I just ended up going "What was that" and investigated while in the house giving him a chance to run. If he comes back and someone ends up dead, it'd crush me.

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luckysausage

[quote=BoredAF]@luckysausage: lol You should double check, I don't think all of the states have the same law on self defense.[/quote]
Northern States might be a different version of this law. But it's 100% ok to use it for self defense if and only if it's necessary. There is a reason why the US has a lot of guns (~270 million). It's not just there to keep it as a souvenir. The thief must be trying to cause harm, be armed with some weapon or be charging at you. Of course it's wise to scare him away at first, but otherwise if he charges at me or does something bad I wouldnt take chances. I dont believe that people should have automatic guns, but good luck running against the NRA.

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Xiscis

Call police on the phone tell them this
"this is someone in the back yard i dont know who it is and he is taking my stuff."
I am going to attack him i might kill him tho
"Wurf it"

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HolyDragon

[quote=Rationnel]From what I read it seems that the bulgars could be the same people that attempted to break in from the past. They monitor your family's daily routine and pattern and try to execute a plan to break in. Speaking from experiences, I had this bulgars attempting to break in a few times in a span of 3 years but they failed. So after learning from their mistakes and carefully examining us, they strike when they assume no one is in the house and they were successful. As what some people mentioned, I highly recommend you notifying the police and installing cameras in hopes to catch them. As well as try to avoid your little sister being home alone by making her stay after school or at a friend's house, because nowadays people are becoming more ruthless and aggressive. Its better be safe than sorry.[/quote]

Yes, my mind is a bit fogged but I just realized that person knew where the light fixtures were. Thank you for your comment.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
Rationnel

From what I read it seems that the bulgars could be the same people that attempted to break in from the past. They monitor your family's daily routine and pattern and try to execute a plan to break in. Speaking from experiences, I had this bulgars attempting to break in a few times in a span of 3 years but they failed. So after learning from their mistakes and carefully examining us, they strike when they assume no one is in the house and they were successful. As what some people mentioned, I highly recommend you notifying the police and installing cameras in hopes to catch them. As well as try to avoid your little sister being home alone by making her stay after school or at a friend's house, because nowadays people are becoming more ruthless and aggressive. Its better be safe than sorry.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
PerfectSight

@HolyDragon
Omg, I'm kinda worried now. Please don't leave her alone it's very scary. You stay with her or your parents or something..

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
luckysausage

@boredaf this is true with the rest of the world, but in us it's called "self defense" haha gotta love it.
@holydragon a knife is good to show the robber that you arent unarmed, but how exactly will you use your knife? It could be VERY easily turned against you I'd rather just run away. Now, if this was a stubby, it'd be a different story. Anyways, I rural police dont have good equipment and cant do much. You should put a camera on and then give it to the police.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
HolyDragon

She's use to being home alone.

Today's incident,
She slept through the whole thing. She seems calm about it but that's probably cause she knows (thinks) I can handle it.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
djmaxaaron

[quote=BoredAF]@djmaxaaron: Maybe not, but insurance will cover the lost of stolen property. A dead sibling, is imo much worse. That should be the real concern at this point in time.

@holydragon You need to have a serious conversation with your parents and figure something out. You could do a mock robbery where your sister is hurt/missing and prove to them that the consequences may be severe. Though, be warned that might get you into hot water. Do what you need to do.[/quote]

I don't know, some things are pretty valuable and siblings can always be remade.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
HolyDragon

[quote=luckysausage]it is not illegal, because it's self defense. However, the dude can bs it during his trial and say that he was having an "emergency" and had to come to your house. But he needs evidence. I would never recommend a knife for self defense btw[/quote]

? What's wrong with a knife. I took one with me while I was fixing the lights in the dark.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
luckysausage

[quote=Elasmobranch]Stuff like this really upsets me how it's illegal to go absolutely ham on someone trying to break into your house.
They knew the risks, they're trying to steal my stuff and they might be after my life who knows? Why shouldn't I be allowed to tear into their thigh with a knife and leave them with a lame leg? That's what they deserve.

Especially with your little sister in the house, it's just disgusting.[/quote]
it is not illegal, because it's self defense. However, the dude can bs it during his trial and say that he was having an "emergency" and had to come to your house. But he needs evidence. I would never recommend a knife for self defense btw

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
HolyDragon

I've decided.

Going to tell my sister to stop sleeping between 3-7
Stay in the living room
No headphones
Keep her phone with her charged
Will invest in a camera when I can.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
djmaxaaron

[quote=BoredAF]@HolyDragon: That will look nice on her tombstone. How old is your sister anyway, that she can be home alone. Maybe enroll her into an after school activity, which will get her out of the house.[/quote]

That doesn't solve the fact that someone is still going to be robbing him

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HolyDragon

[quote=BoredAF]@HolyDragon: That will look nice on her tombstone. How old is your sister anyway, that she can be home alone. Maybe enroll her into an after school activity, which will get her out of the house.[/quote]

Thirteen, but if she was coming home during the burglary, she'd be dead too. She walks home with a friend during the rush of students going home so that's the safest option.

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luckysausage

[quote=BoredAF]I find it very weird, that your parents know that your little sister is potentially in dangers way, and are still refusing to do something about it. What's up with that?[/quote]

it's not like they can hire body guards, and also, he lives in a rural place. But seriously people need to take marshal arts and not stay in the house all day!

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
HolyDragon

[quote=BoredAF]I find it very weird, that your parents know that your little sister is potentially in dangers way, and are still refusing to do something about it. What's up with that?[/quote]

Well, what can be done? Everyone is working and going to school.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
HolyDragon

[quote=Elasmobranch]Stuff like this really upsets me how it's illegal to go absolutely ham on someone trying to break into your house.
They knew the risks, they're trying to steal my stuff and they might be after my life who knows? Why shouldn't I be allowed to tear into their thigh with a knife and leave them with a lame leg? That's what they deserve.

Especially with your little sister in the house, it's just disgusting.[/quote]

Yes, if I was not home, I think my sister would be dead. She was sleeping, and she's short and weak.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
Elasmobranch

Stuff like this really upsets me how it's illegal to go absolutely ham on someone trying to break into your house.
They knew the risks, they're trying to steal my stuff and they might be after my life who knows? Why shouldn't I be allowed to tear into their thigh with a knife and leave them with a lame leg? That's what they deserve.

Especially with your little sister in the house, it's just disgusting.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
marauder21

[quote=HolyDragon]Never, I don't even know where to start.

I thought about how the conversation would go, should I do it?

Hey, someone was trying to break into my house but he fled. I didn't see him, only heard him and saw his shadow. Was it okay to call this number?[/quote]

Search up the line for reporting home invasions I guess. You should mention that this event has happened on numerous occasions in the past, that seems to quite valuable information.

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
spireweb

dude call the cops just dial 911 and when they ask what is the emergency just tell them whats been going on and that it might happen again better be safe than sorry. if your neighborhood is ghetto and cops dont do anything helpful then I suggest that you invest in a fire arm and dont even threaten to shoot just nail him on the spot if you ever see him trying to break in

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Defaulty

too bad pizza gets to your house faster than the police

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
HolyDragon

[quote=marauder21]Not sure how this stuff works, but have you tried reporting it in the past? I don't mean calling 9-1-1 and that sort, but online/calling the station/filing it in the station.[/quote]

Never, I don't even know where to start.

I thought about how the conversation would go, should I do it?

"Hey, someone was trying to break into my house but he fled. I didn't see him, only heard him and saw his shadow. Was it okay to call this number?"

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marauder21

Not sure how this stuff works, but have you tried reporting it in the past? I don't mean calling 9-1-1 and that sort, but online/calling the station/filing it in the station.

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HolyDragon

Calling the cops won't help. I don't think searching for fingerprints would bode well.

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luckysausage

[quote=Xiscis]Get a Mexican pitbull, i heard the dogs wont stop biting till they are beaten to death.
Or get a German Shepard and teach it to bite there nuts
Or u can just a BB gun a relsitce one and run outside with it[/quote]
a German shepherd works, but good luck taming a Mexican pitbull lol

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Xiscis

Get a Mexican pitbull, i heard the dogs wont stop biting till they are beaten to death.
Or get a German Shepard and teach it to bite there nuts
Or u can just a BB gun a relsitce one and run outside with it

Reply November 19, 2014 - edited
luckysausage

if you didnt see the person, what use will the police be? If youd call them, what would you say=0 Just buy a stubby problem solved. A watchdog helps too

edit: read your thread, frickin put some cameras on!

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